Novel and Personalized Treatment for Gynecologic Cancers
May 24, 2023Yale Cancer Center Grand Rounds | May 23, 2023
Presentations by: Drs. Elena Ratner and Alessandro Santin
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- 00:00Welcome to Yale Cancer Center Ground Rounds.
- 00:03I'm Doctor Miriam Lustberg
- 00:04and I have the privilege of
- 00:07introducing our two speakers today.
- 00:10Doctor Elena Ratner is a professor
- 00:13of obstetrics and gynecology and
- 00:16reproductive sciences and cochief of
- 00:19the section of Gynecological Oncology.
- 00:22She's a board certified gynecologist.
- 00:25Oncologist with special interest
- 00:27in chemotherapy,
- 00:28Targeted drug development,
- 00:29patient quality of life programs
- 00:32and early cancer detection.
- 00:35She's the current codirector
- 00:36of Discovery to Cure,
- 00:39Director of discovery to Cure Early
- 00:42ovarian cancer detection program and a
- 00:45founder and director of the Sexuality,
- 00:48intimacy and Menopause program.
- 00:51Her expertise?
- 00:52Is cytoreductive surgery for patients
- 00:55with advanced ovarian cancer minimally
- 00:58invasive procedures for patients with
- 01:01gynacologic malignancies or complex
- 01:03benign gynacologic conditions and
- 01:06robotic fertility sparing surgery
- 01:08for young patients with cancer?
- 01:11Doctor Ratner's laboratory is working
- 01:13on new targeted drugs for ovarian
- 01:16cancer in order to provide patients
- 01:19with truly personalized care.
- 01:21Her work additionally focuses on
- 01:23reversing chemotherapy resistance
- 01:25in ovarian and uterine cancers.
- 01:28Our second speaker is Doctor
- 01:31Alessandro Santine.
- 01:33Dr.
- 01:33Santine is a professor of obstetrics
- 01:36and gynecology and reproductive
- 01:39sciences and cochief of the
- 01:41section of Gynecology oncology.
- 01:43His clinical interests include
- 01:45cancer of the ovary, uterus,
- 01:47vagina, cervix, and the vova.
- 01:50Interperitoneal chemotherapy,
- 01:52tumor genetics, immunology and immunotherapy,
- 01:56tumor angiogenesis,
- 01:57radiation biology and experimental
- 02:00therapeutics, and gynecologic oncology.
- 02:03Dr.
- 02:04Santine's current research interests
- 02:05include immunotherapy for ovarian,
- 02:09cervical and endometrial carcinomas,
- 02:11refractory to standard treatment modalities,
- 02:14and development of therapeutic vaccines.
- 02:17Against the human papilloma virus,
- 02:19infected genital tumors and the
- 02:21use of monoclonal antibodies
- 02:23against chemotherapy resistant
- 02:25gynecologic malignancies.
- 02:27Dr.
- 02:27Santine has more than 300 original
- 02:29research and peer reviewed publications
- 02:32and has written extensively on
- 02:34various topics including cancer of
- 02:36the ovary Endometrium cervix as well
- 02:38as on tumor immunology and immunotherapy.
- 02:41I thank both speakers for sharing their
- 02:43expertise with us and I welcome Dr.
- 02:45Ratner to the podium.
- 02:46Thank you.
- 02:52Thank you so much that Collinsburg.
- 02:54Let me bring us to the beginning the
- 03:01oldfashioned way. I'm just going to bring it,
- 03:04we're sure this more sophisticated way.
- 03:06Here we go. So we are so excited
- 03:09to speak with you today.
- 03:11Thank you for giving us opportunity
- 03:13to present to you the work of our
- 03:15division and to discuss the state of
- 03:17the union of gynecological cancers
- 03:19especially in the State of Connecticut.
- 03:21Just like everything else
- 03:22in the Centina and I do,
- 03:24we are going to double team this.
- 03:25I will start with clinical presentation
- 03:28and Doctor Centine will discuss
- 03:30his very impressive research,
- 03:32so ovarian cancer.
- 03:35Continues to be unacceptably deadly.
- 03:39It's the survival of ovarian cancer.
- 03:43Interestingly,
- 03:43shockingly and unacceptably
- 03:45has really changed very little
- 03:48over the past 20-30 years.
- 03:50The reason for this is multiple call
- 03:54there is there continues to be a
- 03:57profoundly late detection ovarian cancers.
- 04:00There is a lot of research that says
- 04:04that ovarian cancers by the time that
- 04:07diagnosed usually have been there for
- 04:09as long as 24 months and frequently
- 04:11women has seen six other physicians,
- 04:14six other providers prior to
- 04:17actually finally being diagnosed.
- 04:20And that is why advocacy is so important,
- 04:22that's why education is so important and
- 04:25that is why we so profoundly and strongly.
- 04:29Support encourage personalized care,
- 04:33personalized care to patients in
- 04:36the setting of early detection,
- 04:38in the setting of prevention,
- 04:40which as I mentioned to you is so
- 04:43important in the disease because
- 04:44early detection is so difficult
- 04:46because the symptoms are so vague.
- 04:49Personalized care in terms of surgery,
- 04:51surgery in this disease and it's
- 04:54incredibly important and we will talk
- 04:56today about stratifying patients.
- 04:58To who is able to have this
- 05:00surgery minimally invasive and
- 05:01we'll talk briefly about hypec,
- 05:03something that one of our colleagues Bargain
- 05:06and Dekean is very passionate about.
- 05:09And then the Constantine will
- 05:10talk about the importance of
- 05:12personalized care and the treatment,
- 05:14the management,
- 05:15the maintenance of these women.
- 05:18We are incredibly blessed to be in
- 05:21a wonderful supportive environment.
- 05:23We are so happy that some of our
- 05:25team is here today.
- 05:26We have the most incredible research
- 05:29team and the most incredible clinical
- 05:31team and none of this would be
- 05:33possible for sure without them.
- 05:35So very briefly, we don't have much time.
- 05:37So I'm going to be skipping
- 05:38through a lot of things,
- 05:39but just kind of to set the stage today,
- 05:41we're going to be talking
- 05:43about epithelial cancers,
- 05:43you know,
- 05:44ovarian cancers.
- 05:45Ovarian cells in general have
- 05:47different kinds of cells,
- 05:48and epithelial cancers are the ones
- 05:49we're going to talk about today.
- 05:50Those are the most common ones.
- 05:52And when you hear about people
- 05:53talking about ovarian cancer,
- 05:54usually it's about epithelial,
- 05:56which is serious serous endometrioid clear
- 05:59cell we use in this or carcinosarcoma.
- 06:02Nowadays,
- 06:03things like genomics and things like
- 06:05mutations that drive the cancers
- 06:08is so much more important actually
- 06:10that the kind of Histology that the
- 06:13cancer has and again the Constantine
- 06:15will share all that with us.
- 06:17But in terms of prevention,
- 06:19in terms of early detection,
- 06:20in terms of treatment,
- 06:22in terms of clinical presentation,
- 06:24so much time and effort now is being
- 06:26spent on understanding predisposition.
- 06:29You know, we have not succeeded
- 06:30in curing these cancers.
- 06:31We have not succeeded not because of
- 06:34lack of trying in early detection.
- 06:36So the next best thing,
- 06:38and really just the best thing is prevention.
- 06:41We know that there's certain
- 06:43genetic mutations that increase
- 06:44the risk of bearing cancers.
- 06:45BEAR, C1, BEAR, C2 and Lynch all
- 06:49profoundly increase the risk.
- 06:50And that is why it is so important
- 06:53that women know their predisposition.
- 06:55We do a lot of advocacy and a lot of talks
- 06:58to talk to women about know your genes,
- 07:00know your predisposition,
- 07:01know what kind of genetic
- 07:03mutations you might carry,
- 07:04because a lot of these women
- 07:06could be saved not by cure,
- 07:08not by early detection,
- 07:10but actually by prevention.
- 07:12And so much now in treatment
- 07:15depends on the pathophysiology of
- 07:17these high grade serious cancers.
- 07:18And we know so much now about different
- 07:22DNA mechanisms that drive these cancers.
- 07:24One of the biggest one is
- 07:26homogeneous recombination.
- 07:27That is something that we have really
- 07:29explored widely over the past five,
- 07:31seven years and where a lot of
- 07:33the targeted drugs play a role.
- 07:37So briefly, ovarian cancer,
- 07:38second most common malignancy
- 07:40of the of the general tract,
- 07:42by far the deadliest.
- 07:44The incidence is actually not that high 1.3%,
- 07:48but as you see 21,000 women get
- 07:52diagnosed and 13,000 women die.
- 07:56So incredibly deadly cancer.
- 07:59It is very interesting,
- 08:01there's for sure geographic distribution,
- 08:03there's for sure high risk populations.
- 08:06Women with Caucasian populations,
- 08:08women that come from smaller family size,
- 08:12higher socioeconomic status and
- 08:13high fat diet all play a role.
- 08:15And what's interesting is that when women
- 08:18move from the region that's of lower
- 08:21incidence to a region of higher incidence,
- 08:24most sadly they acquire the higher risk of.
- 08:28So it's now where you're born,
- 08:30it's where you grow up,
- 08:31where you where you live,
- 08:32which is very interesting.
- 08:35So there's many different studies,
- 08:37of course, that talk about predisposition.
- 08:40And you know,
- 08:40we know that obesity plays a role.
- 08:42We know that women who have
- 08:46their periods start early,
- 08:47their menopause come late,
- 08:49women who do not have kids,
- 08:51women who have endometriosis.
- 08:52We know these women have a predisposition,
- 08:55and the reason for that is because
- 08:57there's two different theories
- 08:59of how ovarian cancers happen.
- 09:00One is that every time a woman ovulates,
- 09:03some sort of a process happens.
- 09:05And the more time she ovulates,
- 09:07the higher is her risk of
- 09:09developing ovarian cancer.
- 09:10That's why certain things are so protective.
- 09:12So, for example,
- 09:14women who have had five pregnancies
- 09:16and breastfeed each every child for
- 09:19one year have a 50% reduction rate.
- 09:22I've worked on the plan very, very different.
- 09:26The most same option is the
- 09:28birth control pills.
- 09:29So similar,
- 09:30any woman who uses birth control pills
- 09:33for five years has a reduction of 50%.
- 09:36So very, very impressive.
- 09:38Women who have used OCP's birth control pills
- 09:41for 10 years have reduction as high as 80%.
- 09:46And that is all cumulative and that's all
- 09:48respective to the woman personalized risk.
- 09:51So even somebody who has a BRC
- 09:53mutation and has a 40% risk,
- 09:55if they have used OC PS:,
- 09:57for five years,
- 09:57the risk goes down to 20%.
- 09:59They've used it for 10:15,
- 10:00it goes to 10:00 and 8:00.
- 10:02So with different modifications,
- 10:03we actually can do risk
- 10:06adjustment and decrease the risk.
- 10:08And then we know there's also
- 10:10inflammatory factors such as
- 10:12pelvic inflammatory disease and
- 10:13endometriosis that play a role as well.
- 10:16The second theory of ovarian cancer
- 10:18is actually that these cancers
- 10:20are not potentially not even
- 10:22ovarian cancers to begin with.
- 10:23They're actually fallopian tube cancers,
- 10:26especially in women with genetic mutations.
- 10:28And these cancers start in the Philippine
- 10:30tubes and only then spread to the ovaries.
- 10:32And that is why nowadays there's such a
- 10:34culture of actually removing fallopian
- 10:36tubes at different opportunities,
- 10:38because that creates a risk
- 10:40reduction as high as 50 to 70%.
- 10:43So here within our our institution,
- 10:45we actually have been able
- 10:47to influence the culture.
- 10:48And in the older days,
- 10:5010 years ago,
- 10:51when people when women used to have
- 10:53their tubes tied,
- 10:53they literally have their tubes tied.
- 10:55Now we actually remove the fallopian tubes,
- 10:57especially in women with higher
- 10:59predisposition to cancers.
- 11:01We are able to to provide a
- 11:03very substantial risk reduction
- 11:05just by that simple technique.
- 11:07In the older days,
- 11:08we used to leave fallopian tubes
- 11:09anytime we left ovaries when
- 11:11somebody would have a hysterectomy.
- 11:12Nowadays, for sure fallopian tubes
- 11:14would be removed because we know
- 11:16that there's a huge component of risk
- 11:18reduction by removing the fallopian
- 11:20tube and it's a very easy adjustment.
- 11:23But of course, out of all those things,
- 11:24the most highest risk is the family history.
- 11:28Anybody who has a family first degree
- 11:32family member who has ovarian cancer,
- 11:34that increases that woman's
- 11:36lifetime risk to 4 to 5%.
- 11:38And as I showed you before,
- 11:40this hereditary breast and ovarian syndromes,
- 11:42which account for 20% of ovarian cancers,
- 11:45but we really think,
- 11:46account for much more.
- 11:47We just don't yet know exactly which ones.
- 11:50They of course carry the the
- 11:52most highest risk.
- 11:55Very briefly.
- 11:56There's a very profound and very
- 11:58meaningful and very important racial
- 12:01health disparities in ovarian cancer.
- 12:04We have known this forever.
- 12:05We have known forever that
- 12:07women of color do worse.
- 12:10And we used to think that it's just
- 12:12because of the Histology of the
- 12:14cancer that the women who are non
- 12:16Caucasian get Histology that are
- 12:18more aggressive and that is indeed.
- 12:20Case, but unquestionably and deniably
- 12:22confirmed by many different studies,
- 12:25especially recently.
- 12:26We also know the women of
- 12:28color get worse care.
- 12:30They have more profound delays
- 12:33in diagnosis and chemotherapy.
- 12:35They don't get necessarily this term
- 12:38of care surgery now with the joint
- 12:41oncologist and another very important
- 12:43component is that women of color are
- 12:47under enrolled in clinical trials.
- 12:49Only 17% of clinical trial participants
- 12:53represent racial or ethnic minorities
- 12:56and African American women's
- 12:58participation only reached 9/11,
- 13:0010%, nine percent.
- 13:01So we believe that all of that plays
- 13:04a very important role and that is
- 13:06why so much effort is being is being
- 13:09made to improve this cruel into
- 13:11trials and open it to women of color.
- 13:14So very briefly just the state of our union.
- 13:17You an ecology here at Yale is very,
- 13:19very busy.
- 13:20We have a great number of surgical cases,
- 13:22new patients and it continues
- 13:26to increase every year.
- 13:28Our biggest we cover the entire
- 13:30state of Connecticut all the way
- 13:32from Greenwich all the way to New
- 13:33London with the great majority of
- 13:35our care that happens here in New
- 13:37Haven and then Bridgeport Hospital.
- 13:40And as you see the number of our new
- 13:43patient visits and surgeries grows.
- 13:46Each and every year,
- 13:47and this is the territory that
- 13:49we cover again,
- 13:50all the way from New York all
- 13:52the way to New London,
- 13:53so very profoundly so there.
- 13:57One of the things that have
- 13:58changed drastically in the care
- 13:59of joining College of Patients,
- 14:00something that I'm going to
- 14:01talk about briefly,
- 14:02is how much we are able to do
- 14:05surgically in a minimally invasive way.
- 14:08So when you look at that data that I just
- 14:10pulled up and the data that you know,
- 14:11I study very closely and extensively,
- 14:13the culture of this field is
- 14:16changing to become almost
- 14:18predominantly outpatient field.
- 14:20Great majority of our women used
- 14:22to have the surgeries and have
- 14:25a prolonged inpatient stay.
- 14:26And now great majority of women are
- 14:28able to have the same kind of radical
- 14:30debalking surgeries in a minimally
- 14:32invasive way that I'll show you in
- 14:33a little bit and are able to be
- 14:36discharged home literally same day.
- 14:38And that is why so much of our financial
- 14:42representation has now become an
- 14:45outpatient service versus the inpatient.
- 14:48So surgery is very,
- 14:51very important.
- 14:52Let me just get rid of that.
- 14:54I don't know if that's supposed to be here.
- 14:57There we go.
- 14:58So surgery in gynecology is
- 15:00of paramount importance.
- 15:01We know for many different
- 15:03reasons that women who have had
- 15:05very radical surgery and their
- 15:07cancer was removed entirely
- 15:09with no residual disease,
- 15:11have done profoundly better.
- 15:14You can see here the overall survival
- 15:17is significantly better for women
- 15:18who have had 0 millimeters of disease
- 15:21left at the completion of surgery.
- 15:23This is kind of what things
- 15:24look like when we begin.
- 15:25This is kind of how ovarian cancer presents.
- 15:28This is the cancer that spreads over the
- 15:30bowel or momentum over the pertinal surfaces.
- 15:34And very frequently we hear especially
- 15:36Yale give new adjuvant chemotherapy,
- 15:39which is chemotherapy before the surgery
- 15:41to increase the chances of successful
- 15:43debalking to no residual disease.
- 15:45So I want to talk briefly about approach
- 15:48to surgery and again why this has to be
- 15:52so personalized and so individualized.
- 15:54This was a big poster that
- 15:56was hanging in the office.
- 15:58Of my mentor and previous boss.
- 16:01And when I was younger,
- 16:03not that much younger.
- 16:04It was a big point of debate.
- 16:07The greater the surgeon,
- 16:08the bigger the incision.
- 16:10Certainly not the case.
- 16:12Granted, I now have his office and his job,
- 16:14so there's that.
- 16:18So many studies have showed the
- 16:21laparoscopy and minimally invasive
- 16:23approach to ovarian cancers
- 16:24and gercologic cancers not only
- 16:27safe but completely appropriate.
- 16:29We know that complications are less,
- 16:32We know that efficiency is the same.
- 16:34We know that effectiveness is the same.
- 16:37So again,
- 16:38everything has to be done in a very
- 16:40personalized way that has to make sense,
- 16:43the biggest thing in joint oncology
- 16:45surgery and something that we
- 16:46care so passionately about.
- 16:48Is that masses do not get spilled
- 16:50because when the mass ruptures,
- 16:52that's up upstages the patient
- 16:54and worsens their prognosis.
- 16:55So all kinds of things are done
- 16:58to prevent that.
- 17:00And again,
- 17:01in the older days used to be a big point
- 17:04of debate and big point of discussion.
- 17:06So I want to share some of the
- 17:08videos of mine and some of our
- 17:10partners Sudo Zodi that show how we
- 17:14deal with some of these concerns.
- 17:17So you know in ovarian cancer,
- 17:20because our patients are women,
- 17:22we use frequently the vaginal
- 17:25orifice as a site of of removal.
- 17:29So this is a young patient who had Carson
- 17:34Sarcoma that had isolated periodic mass.
- 17:39That you know in the older days,
- 17:42again few years back would have just
- 17:45been removed with a big incision,
- 17:47with a huge resection and huge
- 17:50recovery because of the concern
- 17:52both for the complexity of the case.
- 17:54So as you can see this is the great vessels,
- 17:57this is the ureter,
- 17:58this is the mask that was entirely
- 18:00resected and then the concern would have
- 18:02been how do you remove a mask like this.
- 18:05And this is something that
- 18:07we use a great deal.
- 18:08And something that we talk about a
- 18:10lot is that we're able to just play
- 18:12something right through the vagina,
- 18:15place the back into the vagina
- 18:18that is only very, very small,
- 18:21small 10 millimeter incision
- 18:23and then remove it like this.
- 18:25And this patient was able to
- 18:27go home same day.
- 18:27This patient also had a metal diverticulum
- 18:30that we we resected at the same time.
- 18:34And also was removed similarly
- 18:36like that as you can see.
- 18:38So this is the the bowel surgery,
- 18:40the reticulum similarly placed in the bag,
- 18:43similarly placed in the vagina
- 18:46and similarly patient went home
- 18:49same day and had minimal minimal
- 18:51recovery from from something that
- 18:53would have been very extensive.
- 18:55Natural or laparoscopy is so important
- 18:57and again we are lucky to be able to use
- 19:01vaginal orifice in our patients for this.
- 19:04So at times, again, you know,
- 19:06everything has to make sense.
- 19:08You know, this is the older patient who
- 19:10had a very many medical comorbidities
- 19:13who would not have withstanded.
- 19:16Overall, big large laparotomy,
- 19:17which is what we would have done
- 19:20usually for this 12 centimeter mass.
- 19:22But at the same time,
- 19:23we of course want to be very careful and
- 19:25not rupture the mass and not leak it.
- 19:27So we do all kinds of special techniques
- 19:30again in a very truly personalized way
- 19:32to be able to provide our patients with
- 19:35the best care specifically for them.
- 19:38So this patient,
- 19:39as you can see,
- 19:40everything was protected and then
- 19:41the mask was insulated and we were
- 19:43actually able to see inside the
- 19:45mask and then we were able to see
- 19:46that this was a malignant mask.
- 19:48Once the fluid was removed in the
- 19:51contained way and that nothing was removed,
- 19:54nothing was nothing leaked.
- 19:56And then same same way we were able
- 19:59to just tie something around it
- 20:01to make sure that nothing leaks.
- 20:04Remove it and then remove it similarly
- 20:05to the vagina like I showed you before
- 20:08and all the lymph nodes and everything
- 20:09else could be done laparoscopically.
- 20:11And again the spatial with multiple
- 20:13comorbidities was able to go home
- 20:16next morning with minimal recovery
- 20:20time and was able to have her
- 20:24cancer appropriately removed.
- 20:25We nowadays use something called high pack,
- 20:27which is what I mentioned to you before.
- 20:30Which is there's a lot of conceptual
- 20:34thinking that hyper hypothermia
- 20:36and neoplasia at the time of
- 20:39aggressive debalking really improves
- 20:42the overall survival.
- 20:43And this is again, this is before debalking.
- 20:45This is after debalking,
- 20:47we remove all the disease and then
- 20:49we're able to place a cyst plan into
- 20:52the belly for 90 minutes that improves
- 20:55direct permeation of the tumors.
- 21:00And there's some very,
- 21:02very strong literature that supports
- 21:03it in this population with pretty,
- 21:05pretty significant improvement
- 21:07and progression free survival
- 21:09and overall survival.
- 21:11In the next two minutes that I have left,
- 21:13I promised I consenting that
- 21:14I was going to be on time.
- 21:16I want to talk briefly about survivorship.
- 21:18So survivorship is so important.
- 21:20We for generations have undervalued
- 21:22under address the importance of
- 21:25survivorship in this population.
- 21:28It's because forever we,
- 21:29we thought the women get this
- 21:30cancers and then they die.
- 21:32That is not the case.
- 21:33As you see that as we're getting better
- 21:35in diagnosis is we're getting better
- 21:38in surgery as we're getting better
- 21:40in treatment, women are living
- 21:41longer and when they live longer,
- 21:43it is so important that we provide them with
- 21:46survivorship techniques to support them.
- 21:48I'm actually so happy to see that we
- 21:50have our teal team here that help
- 21:53us concentrate on nutrition this
- 21:55population because this is yet another
- 21:57one of those aspects that really has
- 22:00been undervalued and underaddressed.
- 22:02So in in Galactic Cancers survivorship
- 22:07has so many different aspects,
- 22:10fear recurrence, toxicities from surgery,
- 22:13toxicities of chemo and radiation and
- 22:15that's what they got financial toxicity.
- 22:17Psychological body image and
- 22:19then sex and intimacy,
- 22:20which is a very profound aspect of women's
- 22:24experiences that here at Yale we are
- 22:27very passionate about the dressing so
- 22:29I'll let this I'll leave this with Doctor
- 22:33Sentine to with one minute to spare.
- 22:36So in the one minute then I have I'm not
- 22:38going to I'm not going to give away the
- 22:40minute what separates us here at Yale.
- 22:43Is that we are truly patient driven
- 22:45and we are truly believe in the
- 22:48importance of personalized care.
- 22:50You know, we nobody,
- 22:52nobody treats the cancer anymore.
- 22:54We truly treat the women that we see.
- 22:56We see their lives,
- 22:57we see their experiences and then we do.
- 23:00Everything we can to address their
- 23:02personal experience from diagnosis to
- 23:04surgery to treatment and we'll we'll talk
- 23:07about and then to the survivorship and
- 23:09supporting them through their journey
- 23:12both during treatment and then after.
- 23:14And again we're only able to do it
- 23:15because of the amazing team that we have.
- 23:18Thank you
- 23:27so. Alina has already done a very
- 23:32nice introduction and this light
- 23:34for me is only to remind you that
- 23:37regardless to the how sophisticated
- 23:39our surgery can be and Alina show
- 23:43you minimally invasive approaches,
- 23:44sometimes we have to do ultra radical
- 23:47surgery to to remove again the tumor
- 23:50regardless regardless the adjuvant
- 23:51treatment they were able to offer
- 23:54to this patient such as radiation
- 23:56therapy as well as chemotherapy.
- 23:58A significant number of our
- 24:01patients still again develop
- 24:03progression and recurrent disease.
- 24:05And as I show you here,
- 24:07of the 100,000 diagnosis with a
- 24:09gynecological cancer in the US,
- 24:12about 1/3 of women still die every year
- 24:15because of this difficult to treat cancer.
- 24:18So the question is what can we do to
- 24:23improve the outcome of this patient?
- 24:25And this again and what I'm going to
- 24:28show you here is our scientific vision
- 24:31and goals that we really we we we
- 24:34started thinking about how we could
- 24:37really face up with some medical need many,
- 24:40many years ago and we developed
- 24:43or we tried to develop a program,
- 24:45a personalized treatment program.
- 24:47Adding to what Alina show you,
- 24:50so this excellent clinical and surgical care,
- 24:54adding a translational research program
- 24:57above that in particular targeting the
- 25:00difficult to treat gynecological cancer.
- 25:04And when I say difficult to treat it
- 25:06means that the problem is really in
- 25:09our specialties not to take care of
- 25:11a well or moderately differentiated
- 25:13uterine cancer.
- 25:14Is really to take care of the
- 25:17biologically aggressive such as
- 25:18the uterine serous carcinoma or the
- 25:20carcinos or comma or they grade
- 25:22ovarian that are widespread and so on.
- 25:24So we thought to really the one of
- 25:28the of the the the winning strategies
- 25:31was to provide access to our patient
- 25:34in particular this group of patient
- 25:37to precision medicine through a
- 25:39pipeline of both pharma as well
- 25:41as yield developed treatment.
- 25:43Again validated within rigorous clinical
- 25:45trial that I'm going to show you in a minute.
- 25:48But the other thing was really to to
- 25:51be able to build a multidisciplinary
- 25:53approach because if you want to be
- 25:56successful in a big Cancer Center,
- 25:58again the surgical is important,
- 26:00is important,
- 26:00the the,
- 26:01the chemotherapy or addition therapy
- 26:03is important by if you want to
- 26:05do one step farther and going to
- 26:08translational personalized medicine.
- 26:09This is really a team approach
- 26:11that goes outside our division.
- 26:13And that is what we try to build here.
- 26:15We involve and interact with other
- 26:18successful clinical as well as the
- 26:22research program present in our Yale
- 26:24Cancer Center and also of course take
- 26:28advantage of the cutting edge resources
- 26:30that we have available at Yale.
- 26:32And I want to mention the the
- 26:36genomic course sequencing facility
- 26:38that we have in the West Campus.
- 26:41As well as again the the pathology corps,
- 26:43Doctor RIM is here that is doing an
- 26:46excellent job is providing tissue to
- 26:47to all the research area of the Yale
- 26:49Cancer Center to be able to do what
- 26:51I'm going to show you internal
- 26:55personalized treatment.
- 26:57So a lot of people talk about personalized
- 27:00treatment but what is personalized treatment,
- 27:03what is precision medicine in the
- 27:06division of gynecological oncology Yale.
- 27:08As Alina show you,
- 27:10everything start with the surgical part.
- 27:13So we are surgeon but ovarian uterine
- 27:16cancer are surgically staged tumor.
- 27:18So we that is the first time,
- 27:20the first moment in the
- 27:22treatment of our patient.
- 27:23And as Alina told you,
- 27:25we try to remove all the disease that we can
- 27:28see to improve the outcome of this patient.
- 27:30But one of the thing that we've been
- 27:32doing now for quite a long time.
- 27:34Starting probably as one of the First
- 27:37Division in the US and worldwide
- 27:39was to consent our patient at the
- 27:41time of surgery before surgery
- 27:43also to donate a piece of tissue
- 27:46to go to our research laboratory
- 27:50and this piece of tissue was used
- 27:53to sequence to sequence the
- 27:57DNA of the tumor of this
- 27:59patient with the ultimate goal.
- 28:01To have a better understanding of the
- 28:04genetic landscape of that specific
- 28:07patient tumor and and as I told you
- 28:10we started close to 2010 to do that.
- 28:13At that time point the commercial entity
- 28:16that we were using to receive a some
- 28:20sort of FDAGMP approved report was
- 28:23Foundation Medicine but at the same time
- 28:26in parallel we are also able to perform.
- 28:30All Axon sequencing at the West campus,
- 28:33as you know all Axon sequencing
- 28:36is quite expensive,
- 28:37was very expensive about 10-15 years ago
- 28:40when we started is still expensive now.
- 28:42So the question that some of you can ask me,
- 28:45but there's something how have you been
- 28:47able to do that 100 or gynecological
- 28:49cancer patient without asking you
- 28:51know the patient to pay for it.
- 28:54The answer is that we.
- 28:57You know,
- 28:58we had this collaborative research program
- 29:01at Yale between Yale and Gilead Science.
- 29:04And this was a huge program,
- 29:06$70 million in 10 years provided
- 29:10to us through Doctor Schlesinger
- 29:12was the Chair of pharmacology
- 29:14that was able to establish this
- 29:17collaborative research agreement.
- 29:18And thanks to this significant
- 29:21amount of money,
- 29:22we were able again to sequence
- 29:24over 800 gynecological cancer.
- 29:27Again all Axon sequencing, 21,000 gene,
- 29:31all the gene encoded protein.
- 29:35Another thing that we have been doing
- 29:37for the last 10 years is a little
- 29:39piece of this fresh tissue was going
- 29:41to my lab and in my lab we were
- 29:44trying to establish primary cell line
- 29:46as well as patient derives senokra.
- 29:49So in few words the viable tumor tissue
- 29:52was both placed in the Petri dish.
- 29:55As well as in an animal with the
- 29:58ultimate goal again to establish
- 30:00the disease in these avatar animals.
- 30:03Why is that important is because
- 30:05as I'm showing you here,
- 30:07the ultimate goal was to develop the
- 30:10patient to get the pathology report
- 30:12to start the patient on the standard
- 30:14treatment that as we discussed
- 30:16unfortunately sometime is unable
- 30:18to cure the patient and having the
- 30:23genetic sequencing data available.
- 30:25To be able to identify potential
- 30:28draggable marker,
- 30:29test this potential drug in the avatar
- 30:32animal on the tumor of the patient
- 30:35when she was receiving the standard
- 30:37of care and be ready for her in case
- 30:40the disease come back or become resistant.
- 30:42We already had tested in for that specific
- 30:45patient a certain number of drug to
- 30:48provide her again with personalized
- 30:51treatment at the time of occurrence.
- 30:53Another thing that we've been able
- 30:55to to do in the last 5-6 years
- 30:58is also to provide personalized
- 31:01diagnostic to our patient.
- 31:02What does it mean?
- 31:04It mean to detect the present of
- 31:06circulating tumor DNA that is
- 31:09mutated DNA coming from the tumor
- 31:11and this was again possible because
- 31:14through the sequencing.
- 31:16We add knowledge about the potential
- 31:18driver mutation present in this patient,
- 31:21present the tumor of this patient.
- 31:23We design specific probe able to
- 31:26amplify this mutation present in the
- 31:29circulation of this patient and using
- 31:32a not invasive method that is a simple
- 31:35collection of of five to 10CC we were
- 31:39able and this is a tumor inform assay to
- 31:43detect the presence of the mutated DNA.
- 31:46That correlate with the
- 31:47presence of this in the patient.
- 31:48So this is a new approach of course to
- 31:52monitor and is called again personal
- 31:55like diagnostic type of approach
- 31:57because allow us to see the presence
- 31:59of tumor DNA in the circulation.
- 32:02But even more important being a tumor
- 32:05inform approach this type of technology
- 32:08become about 10 to 100 fold more sensitive.
- 32:12Then the standard approach of looking
- 32:15to again the Press of DNA when you don't
- 32:18know what type of mutation is pressed.
- 32:21So using this approach,
- 32:22let me show you a little bit the progress
- 32:25that we have done for the last again
- 32:28few years taking care in particular
- 32:30the difficult to treat patient and one
- 32:35of the most difficult uterine cancer.
- 32:40They were dealing with in the
- 32:42clinic are uterine seros.
- 32:43They are rare tumor 3:00 to 9:50 to
- 32:4710% over all of all uterine cancer,
- 32:51but they kill over 40% of our patient.
- 32:53Why is that is because they
- 32:55are biologically aggressive,
- 32:57they can start spreading very early
- 33:00and they're usually difficult to
- 33:03treat in thermal chemotherapy.
- 33:05One of the important thing is that.
- 33:07The Gynong division at Yale has been
- 33:10for a long time a really a place
- 33:14where this patient were affair.
- 33:17And this is because of course and this
- 33:19is because of the work of Doctor Schwartz,
- 33:21that work here for the last 50 years.
- 33:23Doctor Schwartz has a specific
- 33:25interest in studying this tumor.
- 33:28And when he asked me to join
- 33:30him 16 years ago,
- 33:31I kept on going and and work
- 33:33in specifically against this
- 33:34biologically aggressive tumor.
- 33:36So this is to say we see a lot of this
- 33:39rare tumor and because of that we were
- 33:41able to collect a lot of specimen and
- 33:44we perform and we reported the first
- 33:48comprehensive genetic landscape analysis
- 33:51of the rare manigancy and this was published.
- 33:55Again,
- 33:55over 10 years ago,
- 33:57as you can see here,
- 33:59what we found in this study there
- 34:02was by the way before the TC
- 34:05published before the TCGA data,
- 34:07okay,
- 34:07about six months before the first
- 34:10major comprehensive analysis done
- 34:12by the Tumor Cancer Atlas Network,
- 34:15important chronologically to say that
- 34:17this is what we found, we sound,
- 34:20we found something very interesting,
- 34:22namely.
- 34:23A small minority of this biological
- 34:26aggressive cancer called uterine series
- 34:288 to 9% had this characteristic year.
- 34:30They had a huge number of mutation.
- 34:33They were ultra mutated,
- 34:35but they were Microsoft and lie stable.
- 34:39They didn't have any mismatch repair
- 34:41deficiency. So what were this tumor?
- 34:44We didn't know at that time,
- 34:45but they had this genetic characteristic,
- 34:47the remaining group.
- 34:49There was again the striking majority
- 34:529095% where normal mutated tumor,
- 34:55very low number of mutation,
- 34:57MSI stable and cold meaning
- 35:01minimal inflammation,
- 35:02minimum inflammatory cell present
- 35:04in the tumor microenvironment.
- 35:07So of course we start looking to the 92%,
- 35:10right. And what I'm showing
- 35:12you here was our finding,
- 35:14we look to this 21,000 gene
- 35:17and we found specific pathway.
- 35:19That this aggressive tumor was using
- 35:22to survive hemotherapy and then come
- 35:25back after treatment and one of these
- 35:29again pathway that I'm you know I'm
- 35:31highlighting here was the hair to new
- 35:36PAKAKT enter pathway over 1/3 of
- 35:39this patient had amplification on on
- 35:42the C RB2 gene that encode for the
- 35:46epidermal glow factor type 2 receptor.
- 35:49This is well known in oncology.
- 35:51Why? Because there are specific
- 35:54treatment they target this pathway.
- 35:56The target have to new trust is
- 35:59monoclonal antibodies one of those.
- 36:02But the problem is that this was
- 36:05an antibody available for the
- 36:07treatment of breast cancer patient
- 36:09and later on gastric cancer patient.
- 36:12But there was really no report,
- 36:14no literature in the treatment
- 36:16of uterine serous carcinoma.
- 36:18So we decided to fill that gap and
- 36:20we designed a study here at Yale,
- 36:22we designed an investigator initiated
- 36:25trial there was again through a
- 36:28consortium of institution because as
- 36:31I just told you this is a rare cancer
- 36:34and we were and we were targeting
- 36:36about 30% of this rare cancer the
- 36:38one over expressing her to new.
- 36:40So we needed multiple side to do that.
- 36:42So we had eleven side going from
- 36:45John Hopkins to higher state and.
- 36:47The primary goal here,
- 36:49the primary objective was to understand
- 36:51if adding trust to the map this
- 36:54monoclonal antibody to our standard
- 36:55of care that is based on carbo packet
- 36:58tax could make the difference in term
- 37:01of increasing progression free survival,
- 37:03increasing the objective response
- 37:04rate and the overall survival
- 37:06of this patient and so on.
- 37:08And these are our result.
- 37:10So we were able to show that
- 37:13adding this monoclonal antibody.
- 37:15Without any significant increase
- 37:16in toxicity when compared to
- 37:18the Carbo Parkly tax regiment,
- 37:20we were able to increase of about 5
- 37:23month progression free survival and
- 37:25close to six month the overall survival
- 37:27of the entire patient population.
- 37:30They were both advanced stage as well
- 37:32as recurrent patient with uterine
- 37:34serous carcinoma with a benefit
- 37:37even much higher in the chemo naive
- 37:39stage 3 and stage 4 disease so.
- 37:42This study is important because
- 37:45not only ask recognized important,
- 37:48you know,
- 37:49listing it as a major advancement in 2019,
- 37:53one of the five major advancement of
- 37:56that year in the oncology literature,
- 37:59but also because this increase in
- 38:03overall survival caused the revision
- 38:06of the National Comprehensive
- 38:08Cancer Network guideline that are
- 38:10widely used as standard.
- 38:12Of care again in oncology by both
- 38:15clinician as well as insurance company
- 38:18and since that time 2019, Carboplatin,
- 38:22Parkly, Taxol and Trastozoma.
- 38:24So the yield regimen is now again
- 38:27recommended in old patient with
- 38:29utransitous carcinoma or expressing her
- 38:32to you in the US as well as worldwide,
- 38:37let me do now.
- 38:39Let me tell you a little bit more
- 38:41about the Poly ultramutated.
- 38:42So we look to this uterines of carcinoma.
- 38:47As I told you before,
- 38:48a small minority,
- 38:50a nine percent had this abnormal alteration
- 38:53in a gene called DNA polymerase epsilon.
- 38:56This is a DNA polymerase at that time.
- 38:59I remind you this was over 10 years ago.
- 39:01Nobody knew what this really gene was doing,
- 39:04but.
- 39:05Look into this tumor,
- 39:07we immediately realize that was
- 39:09really playing a major role
- 39:11in the proofreading capability of the DNA.
- 39:14Why is that? Is because this tumor
- 39:16had a huge number of mutation.
- 39:18So polymerase epsilon in normal cell again
- 39:21is endowed with proofreading capability.
- 39:24When the cell divide and the
- 39:26DNA duplicate the DNA polymerase
- 39:29epsilon proofread the sequence and
- 39:31if there is an error, a mutation.
- 39:35Stop and repair and fix the error.
- 39:38But if one of the two allele present in
- 39:41the cell encoding for the polymerase
- 39:44epsilon mutate and the majority of
- 39:46the special are also multi mutation
- 39:48so acquired during the lifetime,
- 39:50the cell survive but start acquiring
- 39:53error mistakes and start accumulating
- 39:55again mutation to the point where you
- 39:58have this monster tumor they have.
- 40:011000 and 1000 mutation much higher than
- 40:04any other human cancer including lung,
- 40:07Melanoma,
- 40:08bladder cancer that are well known to be,
- 40:10I mean have a high number of mutation.
- 40:13So when we look to this tumor specifically
- 40:15we saw that in the exonuclease
- 40:17domain of the polymerase epsilon,
- 40:20the majority of recurrent mutation
- 40:22with localizing that area and
- 40:24why is that important?
- 40:25Is because even if the majority
- 40:28of the polyultramutated USC,
- 40:30they do well when compared to the
- 40:33other that I told you still some
- 40:36of this patient where they come
- 40:38back with recurring disease and
- 40:40these tumor are relentless,
- 40:42they are resistant to chemotherapy,
- 40:44they are resistant to radiation
- 40:46treatment and they kill our patient so.
- 40:49Few years ago looking to the set
- 40:51to the genetic characteristic,
- 40:54to the fact they were all permutated,
- 40:56we thought they could be exquisitively
- 40:59sensitive to new checkpoint inhibitor
- 41:01and and again few years ago and
- 41:04here I'm showing you a case report.
- 41:05This is one of my patient treated in
- 41:08two or seven initially for an advanced
- 41:11stage type 2 mix again uterine carcinoma.
- 41:15She was treated with surgery.
- 41:18Chemotherapy or addition treatment,
- 41:20she did well for a few year,
- 41:22came back in 2012 with recurring disease,
- 41:24multiple metastatic lesion as
- 41:29usual and and at that time point
- 41:33she was retrieved with surgery,
- 41:34additional bowel resection,
- 41:37additional chemo and she start progressing.
- 41:40So she was referred to us by an outside
- 41:44medical oncologist for a second opinion.
- 41:47In reality,
- 41:48of course the referral was to for
- 41:50the patient to accept Hospice because
- 41:52there was really nothing that
- 41:53we could offer internal systemic
- 41:55treatment to this patient.
- 41:57When she came to see us,
- 41:59we sequenced the tumor with foundation
- 42:01medicine and what we found was that
- 42:03she had a Poly hotspot mutation
- 42:06in the exonuclearized domain,
- 42:08the P 2028 to 286 are this huge
- 42:13number of mutation present so.
- 42:17This is was a lucky patient because
- 42:19at that time was about 2014 we had the
- 42:24program on going at Yale with nivolumab.
- 42:27This was a program that doctor Roy
- 42:29Herbs as active in lung cancer at
- 42:31that time point Nivolumab there
- 42:33was the first immune checkpoint
- 42:35inhibitor before before pembrolizumab.
- 42:37OK true that everybody now is using
- 42:39was only approving Melanoma but
- 42:41because of this program I was able
- 42:44to. To the OR through a compassionate
- 42:47base approval to offer to this
- 42:50patient NI voluma for free.
- 42:51She signed a consent.
- 42:52I got the approval for the chief
- 42:55medical officer of the Yale
- 42:57Cancer Center was or Jerry or
- 42:59Lillenbaum and the rest of history.
- 43:01We start treating this patient.
- 43:03I don't know if you can see this is
- 43:06one of the metastatic deposit as big
- 43:09as a spleen as you can see here 7-8
- 43:12centimeter masses in the Donal cavity.
- 43:15This is her bladder nodule or two 3
- 43:18centimeter growing in the wall of the
- 43:21bladder causing constant bleeding.
- 43:23In a week the bleeding disappear
- 43:27and in about 6 weeks pain disappear.
- 43:32It took about 18 months to completely
- 43:36melt out these pounds of cancer that
- 43:39this patient had on the volume up.
- 43:42The patient is still doing is cure
- 43:44of the disease and I swear two
- 43:46weeks ago in clinic eight years
- 43:47after what I'm showing you here.
- 43:49So this was a terminal patient
- 43:52referred to us for again Hospice.
- 43:55We sequenced the tumor,
- 43:56we found that we are mutation,
- 43:58we treat the immune checkpoint
- 44:00inhibitor as visit response
- 44:02and of course we reported this,
- 44:04this is the first report of
- 44:07the successful treatment.
- 44:09Of a polyultramutated endometrial
- 44:11carcinoma and now the word know
- 44:14and everybody is looking to this
- 44:16patient and when they found the
- 44:19polyultramutation for their treatment
- 44:20with immune checkpoint inhibitor.
- 44:22Now the second tumor that I want
- 44:24to tell you in the last 5-6 minutes
- 44:27are carcinos or Comma, the uterus.
- 44:29Carcinos or Comma,
- 44:30the uterus are also biologically
- 44:33aggressive are rare 3 to 5%.
- 44:35But they account for over 20% of
- 44:38all death in uterine carcinoma.
- 44:41And one of the peculiarity about
- 44:43carcinofacoma of the uterine is
- 44:46that for over 150 years this tumor
- 44:48have been a subject of debate.
- 44:51And why is that?
- 44:52Is because they are mixed human,
- 44:54there is both an epithelial component
- 44:56as well as a sarcometus component.
- 44:59And the question is what are these
- 45:01mixed cancers? Are they carcinoma?
- 45:03That undergoes are comatus
- 45:05transformation or are sarcoma that
- 45:08undergo epitilla differentiation such
- 45:10As for instance synovial sarcoma.
- 45:13So we answer that question.
- 45:15This is another paper that we
- 45:18published few years ago.
- 45:19Again we sequenced over 70 carcino
- 45:22sarcoma of the uterus and we published
- 45:25again this high impact journal and
- 45:28what we found here is number one
- 45:31we were able through sequencing.
- 45:34We also perform multiple sequencing,
- 45:37so not only we sequence the 70
- 45:40specimen from the 70 patient but
- 45:42about five or six of this tumor.
- 45:45We were doing macro dissection and
- 45:47sequence area of epithelial tumor
- 45:49and other sarcometus humor tumor
- 45:51in the same patient and we were
- 45:54overlapping the old Axon sequencing
- 45:56data to try to understand are
- 45:58these tumor epithelial or this
- 46:00tumor mesenkimal and the answer is.
- 46:03Unequivocally,
- 46:04these are all epithelial cancer.
- 46:06They all start as an epithelia,
- 46:09uterine carcinoma,
- 46:10but they go through clonal evolution and
- 46:13part of the clone during the lifespan,
- 46:16lifetime of the disease.
- 46:19They differentiate.
- 46:20They acquire epithelium,
- 46:21mesenchemal transition and
- 46:22there's as I'm showing you here,
- 46:25some of these carcinos or coma acquire
- 46:28this epithelium mesenchemal transition
- 46:29in some of the clone relatively early.
- 46:32Some very late during their lifetime.
- 46:35The 2nd and very important finding of
- 46:37the study is that we have identify
- 46:40for the first time some recurrent
- 46:42mutation in Eastern core gene that
- 46:46regulate the transcription of the
- 46:48DNA and these were correlated with
- 46:52the mesenchemal transformation.
- 46:54Now we are clinician, right.
- 46:56So we are very interesting science,
- 46:58but what we want is translation science,
- 47:00we want to be able to help our patient.
- 47:02One of the thing that we found in
- 47:04carcinofer Com as well as you trying
- 47:06serous carcinoma doing RNA sequencing
- 47:08was that there was a appregulation
- 47:10of the messenger RNA encoding for a
- 47:14specific antigen called trophoblast
- 47:16cells or face antigen or Trop 2.
- 47:19And this is the work of two of
- 47:21our recent fellow Dr.
- 47:22Borazebek and Shannen Han.
- 47:24So we look to.
- 47:26Hundreds of this tumor and here
- 47:28of course we have done this with
- 47:30the help of our pathologist in
- 47:32particular Doctor Natalia Busa and Dr.
- 47:35Pei Wei.
- 47:36We did,
- 47:36we did tissue microarray and we found
- 47:40that indeed 60 to 90% of uterine
- 47:43serous carcinoma and the carcinosar coma,
- 47:47they were really overexpressed
- 47:48in tropoblast too.
- 47:49So in the way that I show you
- 47:52before we generate patient that
- 47:54like sinograph from this patient.
- 47:56And we start testing in the animal
- 47:59the activity of a new agent called
- 48:02Rodelvi that is now a commercial
- 48:05agent approved for breast as well
- 48:08as bladder cancer that target
- 48:10the DROP 2 receptor.
- 48:11And this is an antibody track conjugate.
- 48:14So it's a monoclonal antibody
- 48:16targeting DROP 2 as a cleavable
- 48:19linker and attached to the
- 48:21antibody there is SN38 that is.
- 48:24A topo isomerase 1 inhibitor and doing
- 48:29that we were able to show that again
- 48:33both in vitro as well as in vivo,
- 48:35this tumor were highly sensitive.
- 48:37This is actually the tumor in the
- 48:39animal that complete as you can
- 48:40see disappear when our control of
- 48:42course we're growing and this is the
- 48:44overall survival of this animal.
- 48:45So the question is PDX work,
- 48:48is it going to work in patient?
- 48:50Let me give you an example of that.
- 48:52This is again another of my patient.
- 48:54As you can see are 74 years old
- 48:57uterine serous carcinoma treated with
- 48:59a gold standard surgery followed by
- 49:02chemo by radiation recurring disease,
- 49:04more chemo to the point where the
- 49:06patient was progressing on anything.
- 49:08So at that time we have a Phase 1B
- 49:12trial ongoing a Yale with Trodelvi,
- 49:15so as you know calcium sarcoma rare tumor.
- 49:18So I had to convince the the
- 49:21medical monitor of the study.
- 49:23That time,
- 49:24at that time was Immunomedics to
- 49:26approve the treatment of this,
- 49:27you know of this uterine serocarcinoma
- 49:30patient rare tumor in the trial.
- 49:33But I was able to do so patients
- 49:36start receiving
- 49:37Trudelvi and again as you can see here,
- 49:39this is the baseline.
- 49:40She had huge liver, meth as well as
- 49:43carcinomatosis everywhere in the
- 49:45donor cavity and the patient start
- 49:48responding and we gave this patient.
- 49:51As you can see here dramatic shrinkage
- 49:54of all the disease over 66% reduction
- 49:57by this is 1.1 criteria in the in the
- 50:01inner disease and we have this patient
- 50:03ten month of very good life with
- 50:06again because this is also very well
- 50:08tolerated antibody in term of treatment.
- 50:12So this was one patient, right.
- 50:15You cannot change a guideline
- 50:16with one patient.
- 50:17You need to design the proper
- 50:19study and that is what we've done.
- 50:21We had designed an IIT,
- 50:23so an investigator in shady
- 50:24trial with his agent,
- 50:26not easy because Immuno Medics
- 50:28was purchased by Gilead, right.
- 50:29So that create a little bit of a problem.
- 50:32But we were able to convince or so
- 50:34Gilead to provide us with drug and some
- 50:37money to design and of course perform
- 50:40this phase two clinker trial with
- 50:43the ultimate goal to evaluate again a
- 50:46response rate as a primary objective.
- 50:48As well as overall overall survival,
- 50:51progression free survival and the
- 50:54safety as a secondary objective.
- 50:57And these are the result of
- 50:58this trial that I'm going to
- 51:00present in about 10 days at ASCO.
- 51:03This is a presentation.
- 51:04This is a preview.
- 51:06I shouldn't do that, but I'll do it anyway.
- 51:09And as you can see here,
- 51:11this study was designed as
- 51:13a Simon two stage design.
- 51:15That it means to enroll the
- 51:181st 21 a valuable patient,
- 51:20see if there was any response and
- 51:22in case of three or more of PROCR,
- 51:25so either complete or partial response
- 51:27would have been able to move to the
- 51:30second stage and enroll a total of 50.
- 51:32So as you can see here over two third
- 51:36of the patient enroll in this trial.
- 51:39Where specifically uterine serous
- 51:42carcinoma and carcinosarcoma,
- 51:44the most difficult to treat uterine
- 51:46carcinoma and we had seven response
- 51:50not three so 33 response rate either
- 51:53CR or PR and so positive stage one and
- 51:57we are now a rolling the stage two,
- 52:01so another 30 patient to try to
- 52:03see in an overall of 50 patient.
- 52:06How effective this agent is be,
- 52:08but there is no doubt that there
- 52:10is a strong signal and again this
- 52:12is an IIT trial developed at Yale.
- 52:15So I'd like to conclude analogy
- 52:17and thanking a lot of people.
- 52:19The particular Elena that is here
- 52:21my cochief they attending of the
- 52:24Juan oncology division that I listed
- 52:26here and here in particular I want
- 52:29to to to emphasize the the the
- 52:33role of Doctor Schwartz.
- 52:34A mentor for all of us that has been work
- 52:38here for over 50 years is just retire
- 52:41as well as of course the group here.
- 52:43The support staff and the clinical
- 52:46trial coordinators again that
- 52:48I'm showing you here that are the
- 52:50reason why again we are successful
- 52:53in provided to our patient
- 52:55clinical trial because they are
- 52:57the one that make this happen.
- 52:59The clinical trial office in the
- 53:01division of gynecological oncology.
- 53:03And finally last man or least the
- 53:06researcher the lab people that are
- 53:08doing they really the work with the
- 53:10animals we are to do the sequencing
- 53:12and of course these are all as you
- 53:15can see young they come they get
- 53:17trained in my lab they and after they
- 53:19leave to get their faculty position.
- 53:22So here is the Fania belona Dr.
- 53:25Belona the lab chief of for that has been
- 53:29working with me for the last 25 years.
- 53:32And of course she's of she's the
- 53:34person that I have to thank the most
- 53:35for the work that I just show you
- 53:37and I thank you for your attention.
- 53:49If there is any question of course we're here
- 53:56SD trial are you looking at the level
- 53:59of troop tube or was it just all comers
- 54:01and if you can repeat the question.
- 54:03Yeah. So Dr. Reem is asking if the.
- 54:07The Trudelvi trial that I'm going
- 54:09to presented ask whether we have
- 54:11look into the expression of the drop
- 54:14two that is a target or not and the
- 54:17answer David is yes in the phase one.
- 54:20So the stage one of this trial we
- 54:23specifically look to drop to expression
- 54:25and only patient with 50 with expression
- 54:28or drop to any expression 1 + 2
- 54:31plus or three plus in at least 50%.
- 54:34Of the tumor cell we are eligible
- 54:35for the stage one.
- 55:01This is a good question again the so how
- 55:04many of these tumor with recurring disease
- 55:06they have estrogen or progesterone receptor.
- 55:08So let me answer to your question this way.
- 55:12UTRAN cancer is a very heterogeneous
- 55:15type of tumor, so you have.
- 55:17From one side, the endometrioid,
- 55:19so the one that are really resembling
- 55:22very closely the normal normal
- 55:24endometrium that can be well,
- 55:26moderately or poorly differentiated.
- 55:28And on the other side of
- 55:30the spectrum you have the,
- 55:31what we call still called type 2,
- 55:34right, the uterine serous carcinoma,
- 55:36the carcinosarcoma, the clear cell,
- 55:40you know uterine cancer,
- 55:42so in general.
- 55:44If you want you to endometrioid they
- 55:46over express astrogen receptor even when
- 55:48they come back with recurring disease.
- 55:51But those are only a minority
- 55:52of the recurring patient that
- 55:54we are treating in our clinic.
- 55:56Majority of the recurrences as
- 55:57I show you they take place in
- 55:59the uterine serious group,
- 56:01the carcinoso coma group that are the
- 56:04one that usually they do not express
- 56:07astrogen receptor or the minority
- 56:10even when they do I must tell you.
- 56:13By 20 year experience,
- 56:15they do not respond to anti
- 56:17estrogen treatment because most
- 56:19likely the receptor is not active.
- 56:21It's present on the surface but
- 56:23the pathway is not really working
- 56:30sure.
- 56:45So what is what are the side effect of
- 56:48the trudelvides assitu Zumagovita can
- 56:50trial that is using this top poisoner
- 56:52is inhibitor as a toxic payload.
- 56:54So the answer is this is a very
- 56:57well tolerated drug and why am I
- 56:59saying that is because it does not
- 57:02cause the the bone marrow toxicity
- 57:04that you know they can cause.
- 57:06And the other thing that we have
- 57:09noticed is that even the GI toxicity
- 57:11that is typical of this drug.
- 57:13Is much, much smaller and this
- 57:15is once again is related to the
- 57:18targeted type of approach, right.
- 57:20So are only the tumor cell they
- 57:23overexpress drop two that they get that
- 57:26they get this toxic payload internalized.
- 57:291 important thing that I also am going
- 57:32to stress to ASCO is that the Cornell
- 57:36toxicity for instance that we are seeing
- 57:39with many antibody that are conjugate.
- 57:41Is not present with this antibody.
- 57:44So that is another great thing because
- 57:45as you know we're getting more and more
- 57:47approval in terrible treatment with
- 57:49antibody that are conjugate our patient.
- 57:51But we must have now enough
- 57:53ophthalmology before even starting to
- 57:54look to the corner for this specific
- 57:56type of a DC is not necessary.
- 57:59We don't,
- 57:59we don't really see that toxicity those.
- 58:01So it's overall well tolerated.
- 58:03The only patient that are really
- 58:06experiencing some significant toxicity
- 58:08are the patient that have a polymorphism.
- 58:11In EU GT2B7 that is again this
- 58:16is this mechanism right that we
- 58:18have in our liver to catabolize at
- 58:20the top of isomerase about,
- 58:22I'll say 1-2 out of 10 May
- 58:27have this polymorphism.
- 58:28They are more sensitive to the drug,
- 58:30they usually respond better their cancer,
- 58:32but there we have to do a dose reduction.
- 58:34We go down from 10 usually to 7.5.
- 58:41We have two more answers
- 58:55that
- 58:59yes, so we I show you here our
- 59:04initial work with trust to Zuma and
- 59:06we have shown again for the first
- 59:08time that trust to Zuma added.
- 59:10To chemotherapy helps but in the
- 59:12recurrent setting we have multiple
- 59:15trial using antibody that are conjugate.
- 59:18So we have used some one that
- 59:24is called symptom 985 that is a
- 59:29I don't know if you're familiar
- 59:31but again is a is the backbone is
- 59:34throstozoma the linker is clivable.
- 59:36The toxic payload is an alkylating
- 59:39semi synthetic calculating agent
- 59:41duocarmising extremely potent but also
- 59:44toxic and so we have seen dramatic
- 59:46response in the recurrence setting
- 59:48intrastuzumab resistant uterine 0
- 59:50carcinoma over expressing up to new.
- 59:53But the corneltosis it was significant
- 59:55in many of this patient we have to
- 59:57stop treatment for for several weeks to
- 60:00allow recovery and and that of course.
- 01:00:03Was not good because during those
- 01:00:0568 sometime more weeks,
- 01:00:06the tumor will start growing again.
- 01:00:07Yes,
- 01:00:22we do in a very special way.
- 01:00:24There's different ways to do it.
- 01:00:25She's doing it.
- 01:00:27So we only do it in the newest.
- 01:00:29So we already have the diagnosis.
- 01:00:33We give 3 cycles. We
- 01:00:36confirm the.
- 01:00:39But if it's
- 01:00:42done different ways, there's some
- 01:00:45studies that have it up front.
- 01:00:52Thank you.
- 01:00:54Thank you so much to our
- 01:00:57wonderful 2 speakers.
- 01:00:58Have a wonderful day. Thank you.