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"Endoscopic Skull Base and Pituitary Surgery - An Update on the Program"

September 26, 2024

Yale Cancer Center Grand Rounds | September 24, 2024

Presented by: Dr. Saci

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Transcript

  • 00:00Good afternoon, everybody.
  • 00:02I'm Ody Mendel from the
  • 00:04department of neurosurgery, and I
  • 00:05was asked to, and delighted
  • 00:08to introduce the
  • 00:09my colleague,
  • 00:11doctor Boland Omay.
  • 00:14Doctor May is, is an
  • 00:16associate professor
  • 00:17in the department of neurosurgery
  • 00:19and otolaryngology.
  • 00:21His,
  • 00:22area of expertise is pituitary
  • 00:24tumors, scar based tumors, and
  • 00:25neurotrauma.
  • 00:28He's one of the few
  • 00:29surgeons actually in the United
  • 00:30States who's able to do
  • 00:32brain surgery through endoscopic means,
  • 00:34and pituitary tumors fall very
  • 00:36nicely into that category.
  • 00:40Doctor Omay finished his, did
  • 00:42his residency here at Yale,
  • 00:44and I think he did
  • 00:45residency in Turkey also. So
  • 00:46he's he did two residences
  • 00:48in neurosurgery,
  • 00:49once in Turkey and one,
  • 00:51and then had an opportunity
  • 00:53to come here
  • 00:54and was willing to go
  • 00:55through another residency,
  • 00:57in neurosurgery here at Yale.
  • 00:59He then went and did
  • 01:01the two fellowships,
  • 01:03one in Cleveland Clinic,
  • 01:06in neuro oncology, and then
  • 01:07went to Cornell and did
  • 01:09a minimally invasive
  • 01:11skull based,
  • 01:12fellowship,
  • 01:13in Cornell and then was
  • 01:15recruited back,
  • 01:17after these fellowships to run
  • 01:19the
  • 01:20skull base and pituitary tumor
  • 01:21and the neurotrauma
  • 01:24service here at,
  • 01:25at, Yale University.
  • 01:28And so I think today
  • 01:29he's gonna talk to you
  • 01:30about his program that he
  • 01:31developed, in a huge collaboration
  • 01:33with the otolaryngology
  • 01:34service about the
  • 01:36skull based tumor program
  • 01:38and the pituitary tumor. So
  • 01:40doctor Omeh?
  • 01:41So much. Okay.
  • 01:44Thank you, Odi, for this
  • 01:45nice introduction, and,
  • 01:47thanks again for inviting me,
  • 01:50and giving me this opportunity
  • 01:51to, to share,
  • 01:53what is happening,
  • 01:55with pituitary tumors and the
  • 01:56pituitary program.
  • 01:59So, what I'll do, during
  • 02:01this talk is essentially,
  • 02:03going over the pituitary program
  • 02:05and kind of tell you
  • 02:07about it, introduce you to
  • 02:08it as much as I
  • 02:09can, and also go through
  • 02:10what we have been doing,
  • 02:13both as clinical activities,
  • 02:15research,
  • 02:16and education, like all these
  • 02:17three, three pillars.
  • 02:20So,
  • 02:21the LQ-two thirty program is
  • 02:22not new.
  • 02:25Previously,
  • 02:26doctor Spencer, our previous chairman,
  • 02:29doctor Alain de Lobiniere,
  • 02:32from neurosurgery,
  • 02:33and ENT, doctor Sasaki, Bianchi,
  • 02:36and doctor Mannes have been
  • 02:37involved in it
  • 02:38before I joined, and as
  • 02:40well as doctor doctor Inzuki,
  • 02:41who was,
  • 02:43who was, in the pituitary
  • 02:45the medical side of the
  • 02:46pituitary world.
  • 02:50So in its current condition,
  • 02:52the Yale Pituitary Program
  • 02:54stands as a tertiary referral
  • 02:56center,
  • 02:57for our states.
  • 02:59And we get, we occasionally
  • 03:01get consultations and referrals from
  • 03:03other
  • 03:04neighboring states as well.
  • 03:07What we do is, we
  • 03:08do complex pituitary surgery, complex
  • 03:10cellular and paracellular pathologies,
  • 03:14and,
  • 03:14midline skull based pathologies,
  • 03:17starting from the frontal sinus
  • 03:19all the way into into
  • 03:21dense, which I'll I'll talk
  • 03:22about later.
  • 03:25So what is
  • 03:27what do we bring to
  • 03:28the table essentially
  • 03:30when we are talking about
  • 03:31the ill pituitary program?
  • 03:33We're doing minimally invasive surgeries,
  • 03:36most commonly through the nose,
  • 03:38but not necessarily just through
  • 03:39the nose, can be through
  • 03:40the eyebrow,
  • 03:42and,
  • 03:43and through the orbit as
  • 03:44well.
  • 03:45We use genomics, like all
  • 03:47tumors that are removed,
  • 03:49are whole exome sequenced.
  • 03:51We have,
  • 03:52continuous
  • 03:53expert endocrinology
  • 03:55coverage.
  • 03:57We have an intraoperative MRI
  • 03:58that treats the intraoperative MRI
  • 04:00that we,
  • 04:01as a standard use when
  • 04:03we resect pituitary adenomas and
  • 04:05other skull based tumors.
  • 04:07We have,
  • 04:08great expertise in radiosurgery.
  • 04:13And then,
  • 04:14we, of course, teach our
  • 04:16residents,
  • 04:16fellows, and, teach ourselves because
  • 04:19this is such a collaborative
  • 04:21approach.
  • 04:22And,
  • 04:24I think like I and
  • 04:25and all of us, keep
  • 04:27learning from each other. And
  • 04:28that's that's and that's a
  • 04:29wonderful thing.
  • 04:31And we are doing as
  • 04:32we, as we get more
  • 04:33and more patients, more and
  • 04:35more complex cases,
  • 04:37we are able to carry
  • 04:38this to cutting edge research
  • 04:41as well.
  • 04:43So I'll talk a little
  • 04:44bit about the
  • 04:46idea of center of excellence
  • 04:47and the idea of pituitary
  • 04:49center of excellence.
  • 04:50So this has been,
  • 04:52discussed in
  • 04:54a in a couple of
  • 04:55different publications,
  • 04:57over the last decade.
  • 04:59And, the idea behind it
  • 05:01is that, you know,
  • 05:02that this these kinds of
  • 05:04surgeries,
  • 05:05should be done in certain
  • 05:07centers
  • 05:08by, certain selected individuals,
  • 05:11that creates
  • 05:13and develop expertise in this
  • 05:15by by experience
  • 05:17and and and spending time
  • 05:19on these,
  • 05:20pathologies.
  • 05:22And,
  • 05:23they came up with this
  • 05:24idea that a multidisciplinary
  • 05:26team needs to be
  • 05:27created,
  • 05:29centered around neurosurgery,
  • 05:30otolaryngology
  • 05:32and endocrinology,
  • 05:33but also involving
  • 05:35other subspecialties,
  • 05:37specialties as well, which I'll
  • 05:38mention.
  • 05:39And the idea that, you
  • 05:40know,
  • 05:42that an experienced pituitary surgeon
  • 05:43has better outcomes and less
  • 05:46likely to have,
  • 05:48morbidity and mortality issues.
  • 05:50And the ideal numbers thought
  • 05:52to be the best for
  • 05:53a pituitary surgeon was
  • 05:56out of these studies thought
  • 05:57to be about like fifty,
  • 05:59adenomas,
  • 06:00per year.
  • 06:03So, the diseases that the
  • 06:05pituitary center deals with is
  • 06:07essentially
  • 06:08a long a long list
  • 06:09and this is partially because
  • 06:10we are dealing with like
  • 06:11midline pathologies and,
  • 06:13and, there's excess of pathologies
  • 06:15at the midline as we
  • 06:16all know.
  • 06:17So the big three are,
  • 06:19pituitary adenomas, creopharyngiomas
  • 06:21and meningeiomas. But everything we
  • 06:23can think of can actually
  • 06:25exist in these locations.
  • 06:28So,
  • 06:30to this list, you know,
  • 06:31throughout, throughout our,
  • 06:33life of our program, we
  • 06:35added
  • 06:35other pathologies such as meningoceals,
  • 06:37dealing with sinus fractures through
  • 06:39the nose,
  • 06:41chondromas and chondrosarcomas,
  • 06:43abscesses,
  • 06:44mucor, and sometimes dealing with,
  • 06:46CSF leaks from idiopathic intracranial
  • 06:48hypertension.
  • 06:49So essentially, we deal with
  • 06:51pathologies of midline skull base
  • 06:53from frontal sinus to the
  • 06:54level of c two.
  • 06:56That's the scope of, these
  • 06:57approaches.
  • 07:00And I just, you know,
  • 07:01in in describing our team,
  • 07:03I just brought the same
  • 07:03slide that came from the
  • 07:05Pituitary Center of Excellence
  • 07:07papers. We actually, replicated,
  • 07:10somewhat independently
  • 07:12what exists as, what a
  • 07:14Pituitary Center of Excellence should
  • 07:16be.
  • 07:17But I think on top
  • 07:17of that, we have a
  • 07:19significant support from our neurointensivists
  • 07:21for the immediate postoperative care
  • 07:23for these patients.
  • 07:26We have significant supports,
  • 07:28from
  • 07:30data analysis and the way
  • 07:32we exon sequence these
  • 07:34tumors,
  • 07:36and, and also neurovascular
  • 07:38surgery. Having
  • 07:40having an operating room that
  • 07:42has immediate access to neurovascular
  • 07:44surgery is also a great
  • 07:45and unique thing that we
  • 07:46have in our hospital.
  • 07:50Our team. So,
  • 07:53quite a group, and and
  • 07:55I I find myself, like,
  • 07:56extremely lucky that I am
  • 07:58part of this group. And,
  • 08:00I think we, the way
  • 08:02we were able to work
  • 08:03together,
  • 08:04as we streamline these patients
  • 08:06and and treat them, is
  • 08:07is is a wonderful
  • 08:09thing. And, it just gives
  • 08:11me joy.
  • 08:12I won't go through all
  • 08:14the names, but I want
  • 08:14to mention, Jan and Jenna.
  • 08:17Jenna is here.
  • 08:18So,
  • 08:19these two people are essentially
  • 08:21the backbone of the program
  • 08:23like handling
  • 08:24patients of not just day
  • 08:26to day basis, but also
  • 08:28in the long run. Like
  • 08:30having a having
  • 08:34a report with the patient,
  • 08:36is extremely important,
  • 08:38in these kinds of programs.
  • 08:41So how do we
  • 08:43approach the patient, the pathology?
  • 08:45So these patients are referred
  • 08:47from a, you know, a
  • 08:48variety of different,
  • 08:50locations. They can be incidentally
  • 08:52found on random scans,
  • 08:54endocrinology,
  • 08:55ophthalmology,
  • 08:56oriente. We can, you know,
  • 08:57find them again somewhat, sometimes
  • 08:59unrelated, sometimes related,
  • 09:01fashion.
  • 09:02The brain tumor center, you
  • 09:04know, sometimes finds them and
  • 09:05refers. And sometimes these patients
  • 09:07are referred by,
  • 09:09OB GYN services because, of,
  • 09:11issues with fertility and hormone
  • 09:13abnormalities.
  • 09:14What happens is that these
  • 09:15patients get referred to for
  • 09:17a neurosurgical evaluation.
  • 09:19And,
  • 09:20once the workup is done,
  • 09:21these patients are discussed in
  • 09:22the pituitary conference.
  • 09:25I forgot the ED. We
  • 09:26also get a lot of
  • 09:27consultations from the ED as
  • 09:28well.
  • 09:30Then after this evaluation,
  • 09:32we have continued more advanced
  • 09:33evaluation by endocrine, ENT, and
  • 09:35ophthalmology if the patient is
  • 09:36moving to surgery, and then
  • 09:38they get their surgeries.
  • 09:40Or if this is a
  • 09:40nonsurgical condition, of course, they'll
  • 09:42be treated medically.
  • 09:44And after surgery, we have
  • 09:45the genomics and pathology results
  • 09:47and, you know, that either,
  • 09:49you know, brings them for
  • 09:50follow-up with endo endocrine and
  • 09:52endo ophthalmology or if they
  • 09:54need radiation therapy or neuro
  • 09:56oncology needs, they'll be referred
  • 09:58there. So this is kind
  • 10:00of how things flow within
  • 10:01the program.
  • 10:03The workup,
  • 10:04every patient who essentially gets
  • 10:06evaluated gets a full neuro
  • 10:08ophthalmological evaluation,
  • 10:10a neuroendocrine
  • 10:11evaluation,
  • 10:12a pituitary protocol MRI,
  • 10:15ENT evaluates them if they're
  • 10:16going for surgery.
  • 10:18We have a specific pituitary
  • 10:20CT angiogram protocol that helps
  • 10:22us navigate,
  • 10:23during surgery as well as
  • 10:25evaluate the,
  • 10:27the the vascular risks.
  • 10:29And then we have the
  • 10:29capability of doing,
  • 10:31inferior petroles or sinus sampling,
  • 10:34especially for Cushing's disease.
  • 10:37So the pituitary conference,
  • 10:39happens over Zoom these days.
  • 10:43We we deal with more
  • 10:45complex cases.
  • 10:47And usually the final decision
  • 10:49about what to do with
  • 10:50the patient is kind of
  • 10:51decided there. There's a lot
  • 10:53of teaching, the fellows, interested
  • 10:54residents join that,
  • 10:56and we learn from each
  • 10:57other.
  • 10:58It is a multidisciplinary
  • 10:59environment
  • 11:00and we sometimes get outside
  • 11:02referrals as well to be
  • 11:03discussed.
  • 11:06In follow-up care,
  • 11:09obviously we have neurosurgical follow-up
  • 11:12after the surgeries.
  • 11:14There's ENT, which is
  • 11:16a parallel follow-up scheme. They
  • 11:18have to see the patients.
  • 11:20And then,
  • 11:21and and they, because of
  • 11:23the nature of these surgeries,
  • 11:25the patients needs
  • 11:28in office endoscopic evaluations
  • 11:30and their noses are cleaned
  • 11:31up, the crusting is removed,
  • 11:33and that helps with healing.
  • 11:35Endocrinology
  • 11:36follows these patients,
  • 11:37as well as ophthalmology and
  • 11:39neuro oncology if necessary.
  • 11:41And these patients, as new
  • 11:43issues arise, are rediscussed in
  • 11:45the pituitary conference and can
  • 11:48be seen again and again.
  • 11:49Our typical
  • 11:50imaging follow-up
  • 11:53strategy is doing a three
  • 11:55month MRI, six month MRI,
  • 11:57and then yearly afterwards.
  • 12:01So over the years,
  • 12:06during the early 2000s
  • 12:08our case volume ranged between
  • 12:10you know twenty five-twenty.
  • 12:12And in the last, four
  • 12:14or five years we're we're
  • 12:15ranging around 60s,
  • 12:17which is which is, I
  • 12:19think the success of the
  • 12:20program and
  • 12:22all of us participating
  • 12:23in it.
  • 12:24But not only that, not
  • 12:25only just the number, but
  • 12:26also the the number of
  • 12:28extended approaches, which means that
  • 12:30not just cellular, pituitary approaches,
  • 12:32but standard cellular approaches, but
  • 12:34more like what we call
  • 12:36tuberculum, I'll mention this later,
  • 12:37or
  • 12:39or clival approaches,
  • 12:41or,
  • 12:42or even, even more anterior
  • 12:44frontal sinus or cribriform plate
  • 12:46approaches are called extended approaches.
  • 12:48So they're more complex. So
  • 12:49those are also increasing in
  • 12:51numbers.
  • 12:52And not only that, the
  • 12:54the way, the length of
  • 12:55stay of these patients,
  • 12:57are have also decreased over
  • 12:59the years from about seven
  • 13:01days on average to about
  • 13:02four days on average.
  • 13:05So those are all I
  • 13:06think are our joint success.
  • 13:11How do we deal with
  • 13:12rare tumors? I mean, some
  • 13:14of the tumors that we
  • 13:15deal with such as craniopharyngeomas
  • 13:17are so so rare that
  • 13:18if we calculate, you know,
  • 13:20the incidence with with the
  • 13:21state's population,
  • 13:23there's about seven point eight
  • 13:24patients per year. Our average
  • 13:26is about six craniopharyngiomas
  • 13:28per year. So we are
  • 13:28really getting, you know, almost
  • 13:30all of them.
  • 13:33Our endocrine team,
  • 13:35is
  • 13:37a robust group of specialists.
  • 13:39We have sixteen faculty, four
  • 13:40fellows.
  • 13:42And
  • 13:44what they do is that
  • 13:45whenever a patient gets operated,
  • 13:48not just on the pituitary,
  • 13:49but in any area that
  • 13:50can affect pituitary function,
  • 13:52you get the endocrine consultation
  • 13:54and they see patients throughout
  • 13:55their hospital stay,
  • 13:57and give us recommendations daily.
  • 13:58This is extremely important for
  • 14:00the,
  • 14:01for the well-being and eventual
  • 14:03fast healing of these patients.
  • 14:05And then,
  • 14:07of course, they move to
  • 14:08outpatient follow-up.
  • 14:10We have steroid protocols for
  • 14:12specific,
  • 14:13disease types,
  • 14:14DI protocols,
  • 14:16SIDH protocols,
  • 14:17and early these types protocols
  • 14:19that kind that follow sodium
  • 14:20levels when the patients go
  • 14:22home and make sure that
  • 14:23they do not have issues
  • 14:24with,
  • 14:25especially SIDH.
  • 14:28Our ENT service is another
  • 14:30twenty four seven service that's
  • 14:33that provides,
  • 14:34for our patients.
  • 14:36So ENT is not just
  • 14:39an approach
  • 14:40partner. They are a true
  • 14:42partner in our surgeries. We
  • 14:43do these surgeries together
  • 14:45from beginning to end.
  • 14:47So I I really cherish
  • 14:49that partnership,
  • 14:50and, again, I find myself
  • 14:51very lucky that we have,
  • 14:54the ENT team that we
  • 14:55have. And our decisions are
  • 14:57also jointly made,
  • 14:59as we as we,
  • 15:01diagnose, manage, and do the
  • 15:03surgeries and do the follow
  • 15:04ups.
  • 15:07So I'll talk about the
  • 15:09the pituitary gland now. I
  • 15:10kind of move,
  • 15:12move slowly
  • 15:13to the the clinical aspects
  • 15:15of things and what we
  • 15:16do.
  • 15:18So the pituitary gland is
  • 15:19located in the center of
  • 15:20the brain,
  • 15:22look by location in a
  • 15:23way, but also at the
  • 15:24bottom of the brain. It
  • 15:26is not in the brain,
  • 15:27but immediately attached to the
  • 15:28brain by a very thin
  • 15:30structure,
  • 15:31called the pituitary stalk.
  • 15:35It's,
  • 15:36it is located in a
  • 15:38very complex
  • 15:39anatomical
  • 15:40region,
  • 15:41bony wise complex with the,
  • 15:44with the,
  • 15:45main,
  • 15:47sinuses all around it.
  • 15:49And then neurovascularly
  • 15:51complex with the carotid arteries,
  • 15:53and superiorly
  • 15:55anterior cerebral artery complexes.
  • 15:59Neurally complex because we have
  • 16:01the optic nerves kind of,
  • 16:03and the chiasm just behind
  • 16:05it,
  • 16:06significantly neighboring,
  • 16:08the pituitary gland.
  • 16:10Not only that, to make
  • 16:11the surgery more difficult, we
  • 16:13have all these, like, intercarvernous
  • 16:14sinuses that tend to bleed
  • 16:16during surgery.
  • 16:17So it is a it's
  • 16:18a very tough place
  • 16:20to, to reach. And that's
  • 16:21why the,
  • 16:23the endoscopic endonasal approach uses
  • 16:25this natural corridor to be
  • 16:27able to have access,
  • 16:29to this, tough location.
  • 16:32Physiologically, pituitary is also a
  • 16:35unique organ.
  • 16:37At the end of the
  • 16:37day it's an endocrine organ.
  • 16:39It's not a neural structure
  • 16:40but it has, it has
  • 16:41a connection to the brain.
  • 16:42Its anterior lobe,
  • 16:45secretes the the the the
  • 16:47growth hormone,
  • 16:48the prolactin, ACTH, l l
  • 16:50h,
  • 16:51FSH,
  • 16:52and all the all the,
  • 16:54essentially regulates all the hormonal
  • 16:56activities in the rest of
  • 16:57the body. And in the
  • 16:58posterior pituitary lobe, we have
  • 17:00the oxytocin,
  • 17:04and vasopressin.
  • 17:05These are,
  • 17:06again, vital hormones,
  • 17:09that come into play.
  • 17:14The sella, the anatomical,
  • 17:16the the bony structure that
  • 17:17holds the pituitary gland, again,
  • 17:19sits in the middle of,
  • 17:21the sphenoid bone, which is
  • 17:24a uniquely complex bone
  • 17:26and and harbors,
  • 17:27the necessary passages,
  • 17:29that the neurovascular structures pass,
  • 17:32through the brain towards the
  • 17:33rest of the head. Most
  • 17:35importantly, the carotid arteries and
  • 17:37the optic nerves.
  • 17:42So why is the endonasal
  • 17:44approach so important?
  • 17:46Because it gives us access
  • 17:48through a natural corridor
  • 17:50to a very unique location
  • 17:52that is otherwise
  • 17:54very hard to reach. Not
  • 17:56just for the surgeon but
  • 17:57also for the patient because,
  • 17:59in before these approaches were
  • 18:01developed, people
  • 18:03approach these like through with
  • 18:05great,
  • 18:06I mean, very
  • 18:07highly exposed operations that took
  • 18:10significant amount of time and
  • 18:11also required brain retraction.
  • 18:15In this, in this picture,
  • 18:16there's a there's a meaning
  • 18:17geoma that's located in the
  • 18:19tuberculum cella. And this is
  • 18:20a post operative CT scan
  • 18:22that shows the opening that
  • 18:23was made to remove this
  • 18:24meningioma at the base of
  • 18:25the skull.
  • 18:26So these are very small
  • 18:28openings. I mean, this is
  • 18:29a this is a rectangle
  • 18:30like one,
  • 18:32one by two centimeters in
  • 18:33size.
  • 18:35The endonasal approach by bringing
  • 18:37the light source
  • 18:38and the, and the camera,
  • 18:41right where the pathology is
  • 18:42creates these extremely crisp
  • 18:45value illuminated images of anatomical,
  • 18:47deeper anatomical structures that we
  • 18:49would otherwise
  • 18:50not have the capability of
  • 18:52seeing.
  • 18:54It can we we visualize
  • 18:56the the skull base, like,
  • 18:57covered with mucosa, but this
  • 18:58is the sella and this
  • 19:00is the clival recess.
  • 19:01And it gives a very
  • 19:02crisp,
  • 19:04geographical
  • 19:05understanding of, like, where things
  • 19:06are. As we go deeper,
  • 19:08this is the corgiopharyngeomary
  • 19:09section. You can see the
  • 19:10optic chiasm. And right here,
  • 19:12this is the pituitary gland
  • 19:13and the stalk, and the
  • 19:14tumor is right there. So
  • 19:15it gives us
  • 19:18it gives us the capability
  • 19:20of choosing the angle of
  • 19:21approach and choosing the magnification,
  • 19:25and essentially,
  • 19:27bring the camera where the
  • 19:28action is in a way.
  • 19:29And this is a very
  • 19:30unique picture where, you know,
  • 19:32the tumor actually took us
  • 19:33to the third ventricle, and
  • 19:34we can see a ventricleostomy
  • 19:36catheter going into the third
  • 19:37ventricle. The forearm and Monroe
  • 19:38are visible. And this image
  • 19:40is taken from the nose,
  • 19:42so the center of the
  • 19:43brain. So it is a
  • 19:44very unique approach.
  • 19:47There are problems with it
  • 19:48too.
  • 19:49And,
  • 19:50so this picture is essentially
  • 19:51an open approach.
  • 19:53Kind of to to the,
  • 19:54optic chiasm.
  • 19:56It gives it gives a
  • 19:57more open visibility with brain
  • 19:59retraction of course. But also
  • 20:01the instruments can
  • 20:03easily go in and out.
  • 20:04As you can see, there's
  • 20:05a bipolar and a suction
  • 20:06device there. Doesn't work that
  • 20:08well in endonasal approaches. And
  • 20:10I always think of the
  • 20:11example of,
  • 20:14Heisenberg's uncertainty
  • 20:16principle where what it says
  • 20:18is like you cannot, you
  • 20:19know,
  • 20:20measure the momentum or the
  • 20:22location of a structure or
  • 20:24subatomic structure.
  • 20:25At the same time, you
  • 20:26have to let go of
  • 20:27one of them to really
  • 20:29understand something. And they all
  • 20:31they equal to a constant.
  • 20:33So,
  • 20:34I feel the same as
  • 20:35we operate. You know, if
  • 20:36you want to see something
  • 20:38in great detail like this,
  • 20:39you know, this is the
  • 20:41optic chiasm. These are superior
  • 20:42hypophyseal arteries,
  • 20:44extremely magnified picture, very crisp.
  • 20:47But
  • 20:48when we are seeing that
  • 20:49we can't get instruments in
  • 20:50because the endoscope is right
  • 20:52there and taking up space.
  • 20:54The space is so limited.
  • 20:55If you bring the endoscope
  • 20:56out and we can, we
  • 20:58can bring the instruments in,
  • 21:00but now we can see.
  • 21:01So this surgery is always
  • 21:03a balance of like
  • 21:05of these like two, two,
  • 21:07uncertainties in a way. And
  • 21:09it's, the way we operate
  • 21:11it's the, it's the function
  • 21:13of the ENT surgeon during
  • 21:14the neurosurgical portion of the
  • 21:16case
  • 21:17to almost direct
  • 21:19the pictures,
  • 21:20and bring the camera to
  • 21:22where it's necessary to to
  • 21:23do something and constantly, constantly
  • 21:24play with this. And when
  • 21:25I show videos, I you
  • 21:26will be able to notice
  • 21:27that
  • 21:28as well.
  • 21:35Adenomas, I mean this is
  • 21:37a, we're talking about
  • 21:38an organ that is like
  • 21:39one centimeter in diameter
  • 21:41but it creates all this
  • 21:42complexity in terms of its
  • 21:44tumors.
  • 21:46The size,
  • 21:47macrodynamo. Microadenoma differentiation,
  • 21:49the function
  • 21:51and if there's a function
  • 21:52problem, what kind of function?
  • 21:53These,
  • 21:54these are the different subtypes
  • 21:55of pituitary adenomas.
  • 22:00So this is a pituitary
  • 22:01adenoma. It is,
  • 22:03a, it turned out to
  • 22:04be, I mean we knew
  • 22:04this before surgery but a
  • 22:05growth hormone secreting
  • 22:07tumor and the patient had
  • 22:08acromegaly.
  • 22:11I'll show you the, the
  • 22:12operative video.
  • 22:14There's a short version of
  • 22:15it. So this is, we're
  • 22:17already in the sphenoid sinus
  • 22:19here and remove the bone.
  • 22:21And, this is how we
  • 22:23open the dura. Again, this
  • 22:25is this is an opening
  • 22:26about, like, one point five
  • 22:27by one point five centimeters.
  • 22:30So everything all the instruments
  • 22:31that we use are extremely
  • 22:32small, and this is just
  • 22:33a very magnified picture. So
  • 22:35this is the opening of
  • 22:36the dura. The pituitary gland
  • 22:37and obviously the pituitary tumor
  • 22:39is a is an intradural
  • 22:40but extraarachnoid
  • 22:42structure. So we don't necessarily
  • 22:43go into CSF space when
  • 22:45we remove these tumors.
  • 22:47And not going into CSF
  • 22:48space is very important. That's
  • 22:50something that we we are
  • 22:51very careful about.
  • 22:53So,
  • 22:55these are of course,
  • 22:58they're removing them is oncologically
  • 22:59important. But from endocrine perspective,
  • 23:02removing,
  • 23:03the growth hormone secreting adenoma
  • 23:06in totality is extremely important.
  • 23:08So the surgeon,
  • 23:10can be very aggressive,
  • 23:12in terms of, like, trying
  • 23:13to remove these tumors and
  • 23:14risk CSF leak,
  • 23:17if necessary.
  • 23:18So here, what we see,
  • 23:21in this picture is there's
  • 23:22a suction device and there's
  • 23:23a there's a
  • 23:25an endoscopic forceps.
  • 23:27And this is the tumor
  • 23:28and this is the,
  • 23:30the diaphragm. The diaphragm is
  • 23:31the thin membrane of arachnoid
  • 23:33that separates
  • 23:34the CSF space from the
  • 23:36from the cellar.
  • 23:37So the the dissection is
  • 23:39bimanual.
  • 23:40So, the the endoscope is
  • 23:42there and I'm there with
  • 23:43like two two hands using
  • 23:45one instrument in one hand
  • 23:46and the suction on the
  • 23:47left hand and trying to
  • 23:48create a countertracture on the
  • 23:50diaphragm so that we can
  • 23:51actually dissect this tumor that
  • 23:53is significantly attached to the
  • 23:55diaphragm. That will have significant
  • 23:56impact on the patient's outcome,
  • 23:59in the years to come.
  • 24:00Not just oncologically, but also
  • 24:02from a systemic
  • 24:03medical perspective because acromegaly is
  • 24:05essentially a significantly
  • 24:07morbid disease to have for
  • 24:09a long if you have
  • 24:10it for a long time.
  • 24:13So this, bimanual dissection gives
  • 24:15us the able ability to,
  • 24:17you know, remove these tumors,
  • 24:19much more effectively.
  • 24:21So,
  • 24:23after removing a large portion,
  • 24:25it doesn't end there because
  • 24:26usually there is tumor that's
  • 24:27hidden, you know, at the
  • 24:28backside of the
  • 24:30the cella. So we have
  • 24:31to lift up the diaphragm
  • 24:32and kind of remove all
  • 24:33these like extra tumor
  • 24:35remnants,
  • 24:36from that area. And as
  • 24:38we do that, the diaphragm
  • 24:39tends to fall down because
  • 24:40it has it's filled with
  • 24:41CSF and has a pressure.
  • 24:42So it has to be
  • 24:43gently pushed up, and the
  • 24:45the seller needs to be
  • 24:46explored for other remaining tumor.
  • 24:55And then once we are
  • 24:56satisfied, you know, it's time
  • 24:58to explore and then, for
  • 25:00other residual disease. And then
  • 25:02we close. Sometimes we use
  • 25:03fat graft to kind of
  • 25:05replicate the,
  • 25:07the the effect of the
  • 25:09tumor on the diaphragm so
  • 25:10it doesn't herniate.
  • 25:11And then, and then we
  • 25:12have a multilayer closure because
  • 25:14at the end of today,
  • 25:15we are doing a very
  • 25:16small craniotomy. We are opening
  • 25:18the dura. So we have
  • 25:19to do a multilayer closure
  • 25:21to
  • 25:22to make sure that the
  • 25:23the,
  • 25:24the the sinuses and the
  • 25:25nose is separated from the
  • 25:27intracranial cavity.
  • 25:34And this is the
  • 25:35post surgery MRI, the tumor
  • 25:37is remote and this patient
  • 25:38did well.
  • 25:40So, the indications,
  • 25:42for these kinds of surgeries
  • 25:44like any other neurosurgical
  • 25:47problem, the mass effect is
  • 25:48one of the reasons. Mass
  • 25:50effect on the brain, mass
  • 25:51effect on
  • 25:52the optic chiasm.
  • 25:54That is a very typical
  • 25:55way these patients present with
  • 25:57with pressure on the optic
  • 25:58chiasm and region loss.
  • 26:01Neurologic, ophthalmologic, or endocrinologic signs
  • 26:04or symptoms. They can present
  • 26:06with,
  • 26:07a malfunction of the pituitary
  • 26:09gland with hormone loss, or
  • 26:10sometimes,
  • 26:11a hyperfunction of the pituitary
  • 26:13gland in acromegaly or Cushing's
  • 26:15disease.
  • 26:17So,
  • 26:19and and then the need
  • 26:20for tissue diagnosis somehow. We
  • 26:22need to know what what
  • 26:23the lesion is if if
  • 26:24we are going to use,
  • 26:27especially inject treatments.
  • 26:30The other indications that I
  • 26:32wrote in italic are kind
  • 26:33of a little bit a
  • 26:34little bit
  • 26:35borderline. So, the need for
  • 26:37en bloc resection of a
  • 26:38tumor doesn't mean much in
  • 26:40these tumors.
  • 26:43And then a tumor lateral
  • 26:45to the cavernous sinus, as
  • 26:46long as it's not invading
  • 26:47the cavernous sinus,
  • 26:49we
  • 26:50sometimes have the capability of
  • 26:52like reaching out laterally
  • 26:54to be able to bring
  • 26:56these tumors into our space
  • 26:58and remove them especially if
  • 27:00they're soft in consistency.
  • 27:03And then very large lesions
  • 27:05like this case, you know,
  • 27:07although they look frightening to
  • 27:08begin with to be able
  • 27:09to remove these from the
  • 27:10nose, as long as these
  • 27:11tumors are
  • 27:15not extremely fibrous, they can
  • 27:17be removed in piecemeal
  • 27:19in totality.
  • 27:23Our operating room
  • 27:25is a little different because
  • 27:27we use the instruments that
  • 27:28we use are very different
  • 27:30compared to standard neurosurgical instruments.
  • 27:33We are operating
  • 27:34through the nostrils,
  • 27:36sometimes three hands, sometimes four
  • 27:37handed approaches.
  • 27:40This is the endoscope that
  • 27:41goes in,
  • 27:42and kind of constantly moving,
  • 27:45and driven by the ENT
  • 27:47surgeon.
  • 27:48We have specific instruments that
  • 27:49have, long shafts and,
  • 27:52and,
  • 27:54designed for endoscopic approaches. They
  • 27:56are straight instruments
  • 27:57as opposed to,
  • 28:00other angles instruments that we
  • 28:01use for microscopic surgery.
  • 28:06We have an intraoperative MRI
  • 28:07in our hospital. It's a
  • 28:08three Tesla wonderful MRI,
  • 28:10that we can actually
  • 28:12before waking the patient up
  • 28:13or even in the middle
  • 28:14of surgery, we can bring
  • 28:15the MRI in, not move
  • 28:16the patient, bring the MRI
  • 28:17in, get an MRI, get
  • 28:19a great picture, and then
  • 28:20decide on what to do.
  • 28:23So, in most cases,
  • 28:25once the patient wakes up,
  • 28:26we already know, like, we
  • 28:28know what we've done and,
  • 28:29you know, it's it's kind
  • 28:30of a done deal.
  • 28:32Neuronavigation,
  • 28:33is an important part of,
  • 28:35what we do.
  • 28:36So this is actually,
  • 28:38showing in real time,
  • 28:40where we are, in in
  • 28:42a in a chosen type
  • 28:43of imaging like a CT
  • 28:44angiogram or an MRI. So
  • 28:46when we are using our
  • 28:47suction devices, suctions, the suction
  • 28:49devices attached to navigation,
  • 28:51wherever the suctions tip lands
  • 28:54is actually shown on the
  • 28:55neuronavigation,
  • 28:57where it actually lands on
  • 28:58the imaging.
  • 28:59So it's an extremely useful
  • 29:01tool, especially,
  • 29:02if the surgical area is
  • 29:04like a minefield and there
  • 29:05are critical neurovascular structures that
  • 29:07needs to be,
  • 29:10managed.
  • 29:13The
  • 29:14the approaches,
  • 29:16like I mentioned earlier, vary,
  • 29:18whether they are towards the
  • 29:20frontal sinus,
  • 29:22or they're kind of like
  • 29:24covering the anterior skull base,
  • 29:26in the planum and tuberculum
  • 29:27areas or they're towards the
  • 29:29sella or towards the clivus.
  • 29:31So, all this midline skull
  • 29:33base can be covered,
  • 29:36with these approaches going through
  • 29:37the nose.
  • 29:38All we have to do
  • 29:39is essentially just change the
  • 29:40angle of the scope
  • 29:42and address the the structures
  • 29:44there.
  • 29:45So these are called transcribiform,
  • 29:48if it's through the cribiform
  • 29:49plates, transtuberculum,
  • 29:50if it's tuberculum cella or
  • 29:52transclival approaches if if it's
  • 29:54true to clavus.
  • 29:56A couple of examples. So
  • 29:58this is a large macroadenoma.
  • 30:01This is a typical cellular
  • 30:02approach. Not much needed. Although,
  • 30:04this small opening in the
  • 30:05cell can remove this tumor.
  • 30:07These are the post operative
  • 30:08pictures.
  • 30:11Sometimes,
  • 30:13rare tumors like this epidermoid
  • 30:15tumor as as seen in
  • 30:16the restriction here,
  • 30:18can be removed by, a
  • 30:19cellular and a tuberculum
  • 30:21approach,
  • 30:22and using a corridor just
  • 30:24above the pituitary gland to
  • 30:25reach this,
  • 30:26which would otherwise be a
  • 30:28very, very tough target to
  • 30:30reach.
  • 30:33Meningiomas are also potential targets
  • 30:35for these approaches. This is
  • 30:36a
  • 30:37cribriform
  • 30:38anterior planum, meaning geoma located
  • 30:41right in the anterior skull
  • 30:42base.
  • 30:43And, doing a craniotomy like
  • 30:45this. This can be removed,
  • 30:46with with relative ease without
  • 30:48the need of brain retraction.
  • 30:53Craniopharyngiomas,
  • 30:54I have
  • 30:56a specific interest in craniopharyngiomas.
  • 30:58They are,
  • 31:00they are rare tumors as
  • 31:01I mentioned earlier and
  • 31:03they they have significant consequences
  • 31:06because they are although they
  • 31:07are benign,
  • 31:08they are very sticky
  • 31:09and to recur a lot
  • 31:10and,
  • 31:12and
  • 31:16if you handle the tumor
  • 31:17in the wrong way during
  • 31:18surgery, they can have catastrophic
  • 31:20consequences.
  • 31:22So,
  • 31:23the way we approach these
  • 31:24tumors again through the endonasal
  • 31:25approach, we're going be, between
  • 31:27the carotid arteries. And sometimes
  • 31:29they can get really close
  • 31:30and this is this is
  • 31:32a sub centimeter corridor that
  • 31:34we're going to utilize for
  • 31:35this operation.
  • 31:37So,
  • 31:38again, the corridor is very
  • 31:40important and,
  • 31:41can feel discouraging if you
  • 31:43look at a preoperative scan
  • 31:45because for example, this case,
  • 31:49the actual corridor that's going
  • 31:50to be used is is
  • 31:51between the pituitary gland and
  • 31:53the optic chiasm and it's
  • 31:55this and the target is
  • 31:56behind it.
  • 31:57But,
  • 31:58it's a dynamic corridor. So,
  • 32:01it still,
  • 32:02does deliver in terms of
  • 32:04the capability of removing these
  • 32:05tumors.
  • 32:07This was a study I
  • 32:08did when I was a
  • 32:08fellow.
  • 32:10So this is one of
  • 32:11our cases, one of our
  • 32:12recent cases actually. Craniopharyngioma.
  • 32:16So it's sitting right above
  • 32:18the pituitary gland. You can
  • 32:19kind of appreciate the differentiation
  • 32:20of the pituitary gland and
  • 32:21the actual suprasellar tumor.
  • 32:24It's pushing on the chiasm
  • 32:26and the patients presents with
  • 32:28diabetes incipitus,
  • 32:30which is common for to,
  • 32:31craniopharyngiomas
  • 32:32and also vision deficits.
  • 32:37So, we are already done
  • 32:38the bony work. So we
  • 32:39are actually just cutting the,
  • 32:41the the capsule of the
  • 32:43craniopharyngioma.
  • 32:45The
  • 32:46this structure is the, pituitary
  • 32:48gland, and we are actually
  • 32:50operating above the pituitary gland
  • 32:51in this case.
  • 32:55So we have these, like,
  • 32:55angled curettes that are also
  • 32:57called pituitary curettes that are
  • 32:58used to remove these kinds
  • 32:59of tumors. We have specific
  • 33:01bipolar coagulation devices,
  • 33:04that we use to, coagulate
  • 33:06tumor.
  • 33:08And again, you see the
  • 33:10the image constantly moving. That's
  • 33:11because the,
  • 33:13the ENT surgeon driving this
  • 33:14endoscope is actually constantly bringing
  • 33:17the camera down and removing
  • 33:18it back on so that
  • 33:19I can see and I
  • 33:20can bring instruments in. And
  • 33:22there's this constant,
  • 33:24movement in these operations.
  • 33:27So,
  • 33:27ex exposure is extremely important.
  • 33:29Removing like one little piece
  • 33:31of a flap of Dura
  • 33:32there, which is being done
  • 33:33now, can
  • 33:36increase the visualization
  • 33:37significantly.
  • 33:39But we can't we can't
  • 33:40do this, you know,
  • 33:42very widely because the carotid
  • 33:43arteries are right lateral to
  • 33:45that area.
  • 33:46So as more tumors removed,
  • 33:47you see the, the optic
  • 33:49chiasm there which is which
  • 33:50the tumor significantly attached to.
  • 33:52And again, by bringing the
  • 33:53camera closer and closer as
  • 33:55much as possible, we can
  • 33:56see the differentiation of the
  • 33:57tumor and,
  • 33:58kind of pushing it away
  • 33:59from the chi as much
  • 34:00as possible.
  • 34:02The the force used for
  • 34:04these maneuvers are exaggerated when
  • 34:06you see them like this,
  • 34:07but, actually, they're they're extremely
  • 34:09mild maneuvers,
  • 34:11for these,
  • 34:13fragile structures.
  • 34:22So, I'll fast forward a
  • 34:23little bit. So, as the
  • 34:24tumor is more more and
  • 34:25more removed,
  • 34:26we can see the chiasm
  • 34:27in its full definition.
  • 34:30The arteries that actually, that
  • 34:32are seen, the small arteries
  • 34:33that are seen in, occasionally
  • 34:35that come into picture
  • 34:36are called superior hypophyseal arteries
  • 34:38that feed the chiasm, and
  • 34:40they should be
  • 34:41protected significantly. That kind of
  • 34:43creates part of the challenge
  • 34:44of these operations that,
  • 34:47that those arteries cannot be
  • 34:48divided.
  • 34:50You can kind of appreciate
  • 34:52them as the camera comes
  • 34:53in and out.
  • 35:00So this is a good
  • 35:01picture of these, hypophyseal arteries
  • 35:04and and the final kind
  • 35:05of coagulation of the tumor
  • 35:07right under the optic chiasm.
  • 35:11Again, the opening here
  • 35:12is about, like, you know,
  • 35:14a little more than a
  • 35:15centimeter,
  • 35:16a square.
  • 35:23This is another view of
  • 35:24the chiasm and the super,
  • 35:26super hypophyseal arteries.
  • 35:28So,
  • 35:29closure,
  • 35:30so closure is very important
  • 35:32especially in a case like,
  • 35:34a craniopharyngioma
  • 35:35because it's different than a
  • 35:36pituitary adenoma. We are now
  • 35:38in the intracranial space. We
  • 35:40are intraarachnoid.
  • 35:42There will be significant CSF
  • 35:44leak and we have to
  • 35:45really seal this defect.
  • 35:46So we use,
  • 35:48we use this technique called
  • 35:50button technique. It's well defined
  • 35:51in literature.
  • 35:52Uses two different, dual substitutes
  • 35:55tied to each other. And
  • 35:56one goes inside, the other
  • 35:58stays on, and they kind
  • 35:59of keep themselves,
  • 36:01in line.
  • 36:02But most importantly,
  • 36:06my ENT partners will create
  • 36:07what we call a nasal
  • 36:08septal flap,
  • 36:10created a vascularized
  • 36:11mucosal flap created from the,
  • 36:14nasal septum,
  • 36:16kind of created, twisted, and
  • 36:18then kind of,
  • 36:20replaced,
  • 36:21right over the defect.
  • 36:23These vascularized
  • 36:24flaps create a full seal
  • 36:26and can separate the sinuses
  • 36:29from the,
  • 36:31from the brain. And, it's
  • 36:32a post operative picture. Looks
  • 36:34like the, the tumor is
  • 36:35remote and the chiasms are
  • 36:37freely visible there.
  • 36:39There's a lot of air,
  • 36:39that's because we lost a
  • 36:40lot of CSF during this
  • 36:42operation and we made a
  • 36:43hole at the bottom of
  • 36:43the skull, but that's very
  • 36:45well tolerated and goes away
  • 36:46in a couple of days.
  • 36:52So again, the post operative
  • 36:54pictures and just,
  • 36:55the image showing the the
  • 36:56height of the openings is
  • 36:58at,
  • 36:58seven point eight millimeters.
  • 37:02Sometimes,
  • 37:03we use multimodal
  • 37:05approaches.
  • 37:06And these are,
  • 37:07this is a giant,
  • 37:09macroadenoma
  • 37:10previously operated and recurred.
  • 37:12So I approach it from,
  • 37:14from from the nose endonasally
  • 37:15but,
  • 37:16parts of the tumor was
  • 37:18really significantly stuck. Then I
  • 37:19approach it, through a supraorbital
  • 37:21approach,
  • 37:23which is, which I'll mention
  • 37:24later which is a, again
  • 37:26a minimalistic way of doing
  • 37:27a craniotomy and reaching these
  • 37:29tumors
  • 37:31using, again some natural
  • 37:35access points.
  • 37:38And then,
  • 37:40one of the rare tumors
  • 37:41like chondrosarcoma,
  • 37:42that I did
  • 37:44with
  • 37:45my ENT colleagues,
  • 37:47I think last year.
  • 37:49So these are much rarer
  • 37:50tumors. The patient is a
  • 37:51young, male who presented with,
  • 37:53right six nerve palsy. And,
  • 37:54you can see there's like
  • 37:56significant,
  • 37:57posterior cavernous sinus lesion there.
  • 37:59It's calcified.
  • 38:01We don't know at that
  • 38:01point what this was, but
  • 38:02kind of sarcoma was in
  • 38:04the differential diagnosis.
  • 38:07So this is a different
  • 38:08approach. This is a transclival
  • 38:10approach,
  • 38:12going below the the sella,
  • 38:15between
  • 38:16the periclival carotid arteries and
  • 38:18right anterior to the brainstem
  • 38:20right there. So these are
  • 38:22the carotid artery impressions and
  • 38:24then this is the clival
  • 38:25recess that we're drilling to
  • 38:26access this lesion. These are
  • 38:28extra dural lesions so we
  • 38:29don't have to open dura.
  • 38:34There's a lot of drilling
  • 38:35of the clival recess as
  • 38:37we reach the tumor.
  • 38:39So,
  • 38:40and more and more opening.
  • 38:42So, the the pituitary gland
  • 38:43is is there kind of
  • 38:44above this. It's covered with
  • 38:46bone box. We don't need
  • 38:47to open that necessarily.
  • 38:54So this lesion was removed
  • 38:56and blocked. It's a it's
  • 38:58a,
  • 38:59significantly calcified lesion.
  • 39:01So, through this opening, you
  • 39:03know, we are kind of,
  • 39:04you know,
  • 39:05dissecting it off from the
  • 39:07neighboring dura.
  • 39:09And then it will be,
  • 39:11it will be removed and
  • 39:12blocked.
  • 39:15Chondrosarcomas
  • 39:17as opposed to chondromas
  • 39:18are located a little more
  • 39:20off midline, but they are
  • 39:21still accessible with these approaches.
  • 39:24So you can see like
  • 39:25how we go through the
  • 39:26nose there. I, I, you
  • 39:28know, I specifically kept this
  • 39:29part so, people can understand
  • 39:31like, you know, we actually,
  • 39:32like, bring the scope
  • 39:35through the nose and then
  • 39:37you can see the corridor
  • 39:38that we travel through the
  • 39:39nose there. So these are
  • 39:40called endonasal
  • 39:41cases. There's our that because
  • 39:44there is there's significant respect
  • 39:46to the anatomical,
  • 39:48structure of the nose.
  • 39:49So we don't necessarily
  • 39:51destroy much of the nose.
  • 39:53There is there is some
  • 39:54tissue removal, but it is
  • 39:55not significant.
  • 39:57So,
  • 39:58the the chondrosarcoma
  • 40:00is almost out now.
  • 40:18And then it's just coming
  • 40:19out from the nose.
  • 40:25So I,
  • 40:27show you one more thing
  • 40:28here. This is so this
  • 40:30is essentially
  • 40:32if we had now that
  • 40:33the tumor is out, if
  • 40:34we had the capability of
  • 40:35seeing through the dura that
  • 40:37was that is right in
  • 40:38front of us, this is
  • 40:39actually the picture that we
  • 40:40would be seeing, the basilar
  • 40:42artery, and behind is the
  • 40:43brainstem and the clival carotid
  • 40:45arteries. So like posterior to
  • 40:47the to this tumor there
  • 40:48is significant,
  • 40:50so this is a dura
  • 40:51that I'm talking about. So
  • 40:53behind it is the basilar
  • 40:54artery and you can even
  • 40:55see the pulsations of it.
  • 40:57And,
  • 41:06that so this was nicely
  • 41:07remote, like, m block.
  • 41:10The patient did well and
  • 41:11the sixth nerve improved, the
  • 41:12sixth nerve palsy.
  • 41:17So I mentioned the supraorbital
  • 41:19approach. So when we need,
  • 41:20a really a transcranial approach,
  • 41:22this is one of our
  • 41:23options as a minimally invasive,
  • 41:26surgery option. We can use
  • 41:28the patient's eyebrow,
  • 41:29as the incision point and
  • 41:31they heal very well in
  • 41:32the long run. And this
  • 41:33is like an early post
  • 41:34operative picture.
  • 41:35And then the craniotomy is
  • 41:36essentially this big. And then
  • 41:38we we can do, we
  • 41:39can open dura and go,
  • 41:41under the frontal lobe and
  • 41:43reach reach the target. And
  • 41:45we can use an endoscope,
  • 41:46through this corridor as well
  • 41:47to to visualize and, do
  • 41:49the resection.
  • 41:50Again, very small opening about
  • 41:52two centimeters.
  • 41:54And then you can see
  • 41:55the how the craniotomy looks,
  • 41:57afterwards.
  • 42:00So,
  • 42:01how do genomics play a
  • 42:03part in this after the
  • 42:04surgery part is done?
  • 42:06So all tumors that we
  • 42:07remove,
  • 42:08are whole exome sequenced,
  • 42:11through, through our department.
  • 42:13And the,
  • 42:14the significant results, are discussed
  • 42:16in our pituitary conference or
  • 42:18relevant tumor boards if they're
  • 42:19related to those tumor boards.
  • 42:21We if we find mutations
  • 42:23like BRAF mutations in craniopharyngiomas
  • 42:25or or beta catenin in
  • 42:27craniopharyngiomas
  • 42:28or G NAS or USP
  • 42:29eight in,
  • 42:31pituitary adenomas,
  • 42:32then
  • 42:33there is relevance.
  • 42:34Sometimes for diagnosis and sometimes
  • 42:36for treatment. Hopefully more in
  • 42:38the future. But currently, we
  • 42:40have,
  • 42:40BRAF inhibitors for BRAF mutated
  • 42:42craniopharyngiomas,
  • 42:43for example.
  • 42:47We sometimes use IPSS,
  • 42:49inferior petrosal sinus sampling,
  • 42:52through an, endovas
  • 42:54intravascular
  • 42:55approach,
  • 42:56with our,
  • 42:57interventional neuroradiology
  • 42:59colleagues.
  • 43:00And that that can
  • 43:01be of significant help when
  • 43:03we cannot really decide
  • 43:05where an ACTH producing adenoma
  • 43:07is. When imaging is not
  • 43:09enough, sometimes we just have
  • 43:10to test each,
  • 43:12draining vein from the,
  • 43:14from the pituitary gland to
  • 43:15kind of see where which
  • 43:16side is coming from.
  • 43:20Radiosurgery is a very important
  • 43:22tool in dealing with these
  • 43:23pathologies.
  • 43:25And, we have extreme expertise,
  • 43:28in our institution with Gamma
  • 43:29Knife.
  • 43:30And,
  • 43:31this is a part of
  • 43:32our our memorandum,
  • 43:34to use Gamma Knife if
  • 43:35necessary in dealing with these
  • 43:37cases.
  • 43:40So as we,
  • 43:43you know, worked
  • 43:44in our program and treated
  • 43:46patients, we gathered a lot
  • 43:47of expertise.
  • 43:49And,
  • 43:50and with
  • 43:52Yale Medical School's expertise
  • 43:54in
  • 43:55in other research areas. This
  • 43:56created a lot of clinical
  • 43:57and molecular
  • 43:58research and publications.
  • 44:02I'll just go over a
  • 44:02couple of
  • 44:03highlights.
  • 44:04So I have specific
  • 44:07personal interest in pituitary apoplexy
  • 44:09and I believe we see
  • 44:10a little bit more than,
  • 44:12we should statistically.
  • 44:14I don't know why.
  • 44:16But these are unique lesions
  • 44:18and kind of, a very
  • 44:19well recognized
  • 44:21like,
  • 44:22traditional disease,
  • 44:24that is kept on asking
  • 44:26neurosurgical examinations like what do
  • 44:27you do with a pituitary
  • 44:28apoplexy?
  • 44:29So it's that kind of
  • 44:30a disease. It's essentially,
  • 44:32infraction or bleeding in a
  • 44:33pituitary adenoma that causes sudden
  • 44:35enlargement of the
  • 44:37cellular structures causing immediate blindness
  • 44:39and failure of the pituitary
  • 44:41gland that can cause,
  • 44:42hypoadrenalism
  • 44:43and sometimes death if not
  • 44:45recognized.
  • 44:46So,
  • 44:47we had a patient who
  • 44:49had
  • 44:50full of thymopllegia
  • 44:51from that, and we were
  • 44:53able to create an,
  • 44:55an imaging,
  • 44:56an imaging review that was
  • 44:57published in an even journal.
  • 45:00And,
  • 45:01again, I just wanted to
  • 45:02show mention this,
  • 45:04talking about pituitary apoplexy,
  • 45:06like almost in all cultures,
  • 45:08there is this idea that
  • 45:09there's a giant,
  • 45:11which is, you know, essentially,
  • 45:13probably because of a, a
  • 45:14growth hormone secreting adenoma.
  • 45:17And and these giants are
  • 45:18usually have a vision problem.
  • 45:19You know, they either have
  • 45:20like a single eye, cyclopes,
  • 45:22or they they have vision
  • 45:23problems. They can't see well.
  • 45:24And they usually die because,
  • 45:26either a fall or somebody
  • 45:28hits their head because they
  • 45:29get a two three apoplexy.
  • 45:31So that's
  • 45:32the that's kind of like
  • 45:34a a medical evaluation of,
  • 45:36of the,
  • 45:38of the myth of cyclopes.
  • 45:43Other,
  • 45:44other clinical research that we
  • 45:45were able to do in
  • 45:46our institution is we, we
  • 45:48have the capability of doing
  • 45:50not only intraoperative MRI, but
  • 45:51also portable MRIs.
  • 45:53And when we did these
  • 45:54operations in non MRI rooms,
  • 45:57we were able to bring
  • 45:58a portable MRI and
  • 46:00and do some imaging. And
  • 46:01we were able to show
  • 46:02that they are very actually
  • 46:03helpful in,
  • 46:05making sure that the decompression
  • 46:06is done.
  • 46:07What we wanted to achieve.
  • 46:10So,
  • 46:11that was that was actually
  • 46:12very unique study.
  • 46:15The molecular
  • 46:17part of the, part of
  • 46:18the research that we do,
  • 46:20again involves
  • 46:21deuteradenomas
  • 46:22and all these rare tumors.
  • 46:24I had a question.
  • 46:26Again, I,
  • 46:27I did this work in
  • 46:28my fellowship.
  • 46:30Try to correlate,
  • 46:31that institutions,
  • 46:34craniopharyngiomas,
  • 46:36both molecular,
  • 46:37to to pathology.
  • 46:39And there was a group
  • 46:40which was,
  • 46:41adamant adamantimeters
  • 46:43in in, in its
  • 46:45pathological subtype, but there was
  • 46:46there were no mutations found.
  • 46:49And that was like an
  • 46:50unknown at that point. And
  • 46:51later on, you know, I
  • 46:52operated on a craniopharyngioma,
  • 46:54that turned out to have,
  • 46:58a double loss of,
  • 47:00APC gene.
  • 47:03And that kind of almost
  • 47:04answered this question that I
  • 47:05had,
  • 47:07about six years ago.
  • 47:08And I think that was
  • 47:09a very unique finding that
  • 47:10we were able to publish.
  • 47:15Not just oncology, but I'm
  • 47:16also very interested in the
  • 47:18hormone oxytocin. It's kind of,
  • 47:20not,
  • 47:21not enough attention is paid
  • 47:22to oxytocin in my mind
  • 47:23in the in the medical
  • 47:24world and it's, it's it
  • 47:26has very significant
  • 47:28implications in,
  • 47:31in in social behaviors, in
  • 47:33happiness,
  • 47:34and taking things easy, I
  • 47:36guess.
  • 47:37So,
  • 47:38I have I work with
  • 47:39the oxytocin expert from Child
  • 47:41Study Center, Doctor. Rutherford, and
  • 47:43we're working on, on our
  • 47:45patients,
  • 47:46that are,
  • 47:48that are deficient in vasopressin.
  • 47:52So I have a malfunction
  • 47:53of the posterior pituitary gland.
  • 47:55And we,
  • 47:57we are at the,
  • 47:59we are almost ready to
  • 48:00publish our work that actually
  • 48:01these patients have significant,
  • 48:04social and psychological
  • 48:05deficits taken there to oxytocin
  • 48:07deficiency.
  • 48:12Other research,
  • 48:14I'm collaborating with Doctor. Arison's
  • 48:16lab and
  • 48:18we're looking into single cell
  • 48:21transcriptomic analysis of two teradonomas.
  • 48:24And it just it just
  • 48:25shows us that these are
  • 48:26extremely heterogeneous
  • 48:28lesions,
  • 48:29with different cell types.
  • 48:32So we're, that's a work
  • 48:33in progress.
  • 48:36So the education,
  • 48:37that's the third pillar of
  • 48:39what we do.
  • 48:40I mean, we train residents,
  • 48:42we train,
  • 48:43fellows. There are four fellows
  • 48:45each year in the endocrine
  • 48:46department
  • 48:47And there's the ENT and
  • 48:48neurosurgery residents.
  • 48:50So,
  • 48:51I work with I obviously
  • 48:52work with neurosurgery residents, but
  • 48:54I work with ENT residents
  • 48:55too. And that's like, again,
  • 48:56like something that I take
  • 48:57pride in that, you know,
  • 48:59I consider them, you know,
  • 49:00my trainees as well. And
  • 49:02that's, that's that's a unique
  • 49:03luck. I think I, I
  • 49:05think I have.
  • 49:07And with with everything we
  • 49:08have, including the the surgical,
  • 49:11aspect of things, the the
  • 49:12medical aspect of things, and
  • 49:14the the pituitary conference,
  • 49:17and the Gamma Knife, and
  • 49:18the IPSS. Like, whatever is
  • 49:19required
  • 49:21for handling these diseases, we
  • 49:23have it.
  • 49:26What is the future? So,
  • 49:28I see our program
  • 49:30grow and evolve into a
  • 49:32you know,
  • 49:33a more national and even
  • 49:34international
  • 49:36entity. Hopefully we're
  • 49:38we're trying to
  • 49:39plan for creating sub programs
  • 49:41for Cushing's disease and acromegaly.
  • 49:44For research,
  • 49:46I think this is all
  • 49:47about collaboration and teamwork.
  • 49:49Not just in the clinical
  • 49:50side of things, but on
  • 49:51the
  • 49:52on the research side of
  • 49:53things as well.
  • 49:56So hopefully we'll we'll have
  • 49:57an ultimate resolution of the
  • 49:58molecular mechanisms of pituitary adenomas,
  • 50:00which is still not known.
  • 50:03We'll continue to work with
  • 50:04oxytocin and we have the
  • 50:05psychoneuroendocrinology
  • 50:06lab, with doctor Rutherford that
  • 50:08we're going to continue to
  • 50:09work with oxytocin.
  • 50:13I want to, thank to
  • 50:15this long list of people.
  • 50:16Without them, none of this
  • 50:18would be possible.
  • 50:20Thank you for listening.
  • 50:32Questions?
  • 50:46Oh, thank you.