Yale ASH 2021 Highlights: Multiple Myeloma
February 28, 2022February 25, 2022
Hosted by: Natalia Neparidze, MD
Presentations by: Drs. Sabrina Browning, Elan Gorshein, Terri Parker, and Noffar Bar
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- 00:00For joining this is Yale.
- 00:03Highlights of ASH 2021 presented by
- 00:05Yale Hematology and today's seminar
- 00:07is presented by the program for
- 00:10multiple myeloma and Gammopathy's,
- 00:11and we have really fantastic set
- 00:13of speaker presentations. Today.
- 00:15Our program presented by Doctor Gore,
- 00:18Shine our expert clinical expert
- 00:20in hematology doctor Terry Parker,
- 00:22who's the clinical leader of our
- 00:25program with extensive experience
- 00:26and expertise in clinical trials.
- 00:28Doctor no far bar.
- 00:29Who's our expert in cellular?
- 00:31Therapies and transplantation in
- 00:33myeloma and doctor Sabrina Browning,
- 00:35who has expertise in preclinical
- 00:37studies and alloyed doses.
- 00:39And I just like to share this
- 00:42structure of today's seminar.
- 00:43First, Doctor Gore Shine will present
- 00:46updates in smoldering multiple
- 00:47myeloma and newly diagnosed myeloma.
- 00:50This will be followed by Doctor
- 00:52Terry Parker with updates in
- 00:54relapse and refractory myeloma.
- 00:55Later,
- 00:56Doctor Barr will present updates on
- 00:58cellular therapies in myeloma and.
- 01:01Some followed by Doctor Browning,
- 01:03who will present updates on
- 01:05basic signs in myeloma and some
- 01:07clinical updates on AL Amyloidosis,
- 01:09and we will devote.
- 01:10Devote a few minutes in the end for the
- 01:13question and answer and discussion session.
- 01:15So again,
- 01:16welcome everyone.
- 01:17Thank you all for joining
- 01:19and Doctor Gore Shine.
- 01:21Please you may proceed.
- 01:55We can see our slides if you just can
- 01:58project in the slide view. On the bottom
- 02:02there you go, got it OK, perfect.
- 02:04Can you hear me now? Yes, OK alright,
- 02:08so thank you Talia hello everyone.
- 02:10So as Natalia mentioned, I'm going
- 02:13to rehash ash from a perspective of.
- 02:17Updates on smaller multiple myeloma
- 02:18and newly diagnosed multiple myeloma.
- 02:24Here are my disclosures.
- 02:30Alright, so multiple myeloma is
- 02:32consistently preceded by precursor
- 02:34states of monoclonal gammopathy
- 02:36of undetermined significance
- 02:38and smoldering multiple myeloma.
- 02:40And these essentially represent a continuum
- 02:43of progression of the tumor burden,
- 02:46with clonal evolution and heterogeneity.
- 02:50Now we understand the heterogeneity
- 02:53of smoldering multiple myeloma.
- 02:55In clinical practice,
- 02:56we often rely and apply on the 20 to 20 rule,
- 03:01which is 20% bone marrow plasma cells,
- 03:04a monoclonal protein of greater than
- 03:06or equal to 2 grams per deciliter,
- 03:08and a free light chain ratio of greater
- 03:10than 20 patients with two or more of
- 03:13these risk factors or components are
- 03:16essentially considered high risk,
- 03:18and this subset of patient population.
- 03:21Has been evaluated for early
- 03:24therapeutic intervention.
- 03:26Now, with respect to early
- 03:28therapeutic intervention,
- 03:29we know that Lenalidomide can be
- 03:34beneficial for patients with high risk,
- 03:36smoldering myeloma.
- 03:37So the rationale here is that
- 03:41triplet therapy which we use for
- 03:44multiple myeloma may yield a deeper
- 03:46responses and improved outcomes
- 03:48for the smoldering population,
- 03:51and I'm just going to highlight
- 03:53one study on the combination of
- 03:55X as a proteosome inhibitor.
- 03:57Lenalidomide and immunomodulator.
- 03:59Agent and dexamethasone in high
- 04:01risk smoldering multiple myeloma.
- 04:05Now, in the interest of time,
- 04:06I'm going to essentially only
- 04:09discuss the conclusion slide,
- 04:11but this triple therapy regimen
- 04:14in high risk smoldering disease,
- 04:17and all oral regimen demonstrated
- 04:19a very high overall response rate
- 04:21of more than 90% with deep response
- 04:23rates of greater than I'm sorry,
- 04:25deep remission rates of greater than
- 04:2840% now there were notable Grade
- 04:313 toxicities for these patients,
- 04:33but importantly.
- 04:34No patients discontinued therapy
- 04:37due to these adverse events,
- 04:40so so this is encouraging data.
- 04:43You know,
- 04:44suggesting they potentially more
- 04:46biologically sensitive phase of
- 04:48the disease to treatment and
- 04:50really highlighting an ongoing
- 04:51area of research in the smoldering
- 04:54multiple myeloma disease.
- 04:58Now a couple words on multiple myeloma,
- 05:02so we're going to transition out to multiple
- 05:05myeloma symptomatic multiple myeloma.
- 05:07We're all familiar with VRD
- 05:09as our backbone to therapy.
- 05:11Bortezomib, Lenalidomide,
- 05:12and dexamethasone proteasome
- 05:14inhibitor imid, and steroid.
- 05:16This is a very efficacious treatment regimen.
- 05:20Very durable,
- 05:21has a well established track record.
- 05:24Historically,
- 05:24neurotoxicity was a major concern here.
- 05:27But this has become significantly
- 05:29significantly less of an issue
- 05:32with the once weekly dosing,
- 05:33as opposed to twice weekly dosing
- 05:35as well as with the subcutaneous
- 05:38version as opposed to the Ivy.
- 05:40So VRD is are suitable backbone and
- 05:42that has been sort of the impetus for
- 05:45developing quadruplet based therapies.
- 05:47We know from some data that quadruplet
- 05:50regimens can be very active in the upfront
- 05:54treatment naive patient population,
- 05:57but there are.
- 05:58There are unanswered questions
- 05:59and we need more information.
- 06:01How does this regimen impact the
- 06:04high risk patient population?
- 06:06What about those that are stem cell
- 06:08transplant eligible versus ineligible?
- 06:10And clearly we need more long term
- 06:13results that we currently have for VRD,
- 06:16but you know it is not quite
- 06:18not quite there yet.
- 06:19For the quadruple therapy.
- 06:22So moving onto the updated Griffin
- 06:25analysis so this was published in Ash.
- 06:28Looking at the 24 month
- 06:30follow follow up for Gray.
- 06:47Just a brief background on this,
- 06:49so induction therapy followed by
- 06:52high dose therapy with autologous
- 06:55stem cell transplant and lend.
- 06:57My maintenance therapy is a standard of
- 07:00care regiment for newly diagnosed patients.
- 07:03The phase two Griffin study that was
- 07:06initially presented well over a year
- 07:09ago evaluated the efficacy and safety
- 07:12of Dara plus RVD versus RVD induction,
- 07:15followed by AUTOTRANSPLANT
- 07:17for newly diagnosed.
- 07:18Transplant eligible patients.
- 07:19The primary analysis after almost
- 07:2214 months of therapy showed that
- 07:24the quadruplet therapy significantly
- 07:26improved the stringent CR rates versus
- 07:29the triplet therapy by the end of
- 07:32the post auto consolidation phase
- 07:34with response rates of 42 versus 32%.
- 07:38We also saw that this quadruplet
- 07:40treatment deepened their responses,
- 07:43improved MRD negativity rates after
- 07:45one year of maintenance therapy when.
- 07:48The standard of care lanolin amide
- 07:50when daratumumab was added to
- 07:52the standard of care.
- 07:54Importantly there were no new safety
- 07:56concerns and daratumumab did not
- 07:59impact the ability to mobilize
- 08:03themselves and patients who received
- 08:05their induction were actually able to
- 08:07successfully complete the transplant.
- 08:09So here in Asheville they reported
- 08:12the updated efficacy and safety
- 08:14from Griffin after 24 months or
- 08:16two years of maintenance therapy.
- 08:19An overview of the treatment design,
- 08:21so again patients were transplant eligible,
- 08:24newly diagnosed disease.
- 08:26They received 4 induction cycles of
- 08:30they were randomized to either the
- 08:33quadruple it or the triplet with RV.
- 08:35They subsequently underwent stem
- 08:37cell transplant,
- 08:38followed by two cycles of consolidation
- 08:41treatment and then patients under work
- 08:44continue to darreff maintenance or lanolin.
- 08:48Maintenance for up to two years.
- 08:50The primary endpoint here was a stringent CR.
- 08:54Secondary endpoints included various
- 08:56response rates, MRD, negativity,
- 08:58progression, free survival,
- 09:00and overall survival on the bottom
- 09:02half of the slide.
- 09:03You note that the patient
- 09:05characteristics were were fairly
- 09:06well balanced between both groups.
- 09:12Now highlighted here is what's
- 09:13important to note here is that these
- 09:16responses deepened overtime after
- 09:18two years of maintenance therapy.
- 09:21For the DRVD, the complete response
- 09:23rates were 82% versus 61% for the
- 09:25triplet therapy and on the right
- 09:28here for the subgroup analysis,
- 09:31you can appreciate that the that these
- 09:35improved durable responses were seen
- 09:38irrespective of the various subgroups.
- 09:41Described.
- 09:43In the lower half of the slide,
- 09:45we note that there were more
- 09:47significant MRD negativity rates
- 09:49with increased treatment as well.
- 09:51Again for the quadruplet therapy,
- 09:5364% relative to 30% in the triplet
- 09:56therapy and when we look at
- 09:58the various subgroup analysis,
- 10:00this finding was also observed
- 10:03for patients over the age of 65.
- 10:05Advanced ISS High Risk center
- 10:09genetic analysis and.
- 10:11And then revised higher,
- 10:12so genetic risk profile.
- 10:16The median progression free survival
- 10:18was not reached in either arm,
- 10:21although what's important to note
- 10:23here is that we do see a separation
- 10:25of the curves beginning one
- 10:27year after maintenance therapy,
- 10:29so this suggests a benefit for the
- 10:32Daerah 2 Mettler Toledo my maintenance
- 10:35arm and although it was not powered
- 10:37again not powered for progression free
- 10:40survival in the subgroup analysis,
- 10:42but you can also note here a generally
- 10:46a positive trend for darylynn.
- 10:48Maintenance versus Lenalidomide
- 10:50monotherapy as maintenance.
- 10:55So the summarize these conclusions,
- 10:57so the quadruple therapy as induction post,
- 11:00auto consolidation and barev maintenance
- 11:02is an effective regimen for newly
- 11:05diagnosed transplant eligible patients.
- 11:07The MRD negativity rates were
- 11:09highest for the quadruplet,
- 11:11followed by darreff maintenance.
- 11:13These patients had deeper
- 11:15levels of MRD negativity,
- 11:17greater deepening of the negativity
- 11:19over time as we saw approaching
- 11:21the two year maintenance phase.
- 11:23Similarly, their rates of sustained.
- 11:25MRMR D negativity and the subset
- 11:30analysis also trended favorably in
- 11:33for the high risk population as well.
- 11:37In terms of the progression free survival.
- 11:40Again, also this two year maintenance
- 11:43was well tolerated for those who
- 11:46received the daratumumab combination.
- 11:50So moving on to the Maia study.
- 11:52Now this these results were
- 11:54actually originally published
- 11:55last summer at the FAP meeting,
- 11:57but I'm gonna review it here also,
- 12:00within the context of this
- 12:03presentation by Doctor Usmania at MSK.
- 12:07Who essentially wanted to determine
- 12:09the effects of the Maya on patients
- 12:13with impaired renal function,
- 12:14which is relevant here?
- 12:16Because really up to up to
- 12:1850% of patients can have some
- 12:21baseline renal compromise that can
- 12:23impact our choice of treatment.
- 12:25So the the Maya the mitral.
- 12:27As you may know,
- 12:28evaluated the addition of Dara to Rev
- 12:31Dex and transplant ineligible patients.
- 12:33Newly diagnosed median follow-up
- 12:35of four and a half years.
- 12:38The Dara Rev Dex prolonged PFS
- 12:41and OS versus Rev Dex alone,
- 12:44and this was despite the fact that
- 12:46almost half the patients in the Rev Dex
- 12:49population received subsequent therapy,
- 12:52including a dare to Matt based regimen.
- 12:56So so important for for
- 12:59this patient population.
- 13:01When we look at the study design,
- 13:03Somaiya trial again included
- 13:05transplant ineligible,
- 13:06newly diagnosed multiple myeloma patients,
- 13:09randomized to Dara Rev Dex or Rev Dex
- 13:13and important here to note is that
- 13:17this treatment was continued until.
- 13:21I told disease progression.
- 13:23The primary endpoint for this study
- 13:25was the progression free survival.
- 13:27Various secondary endpoints,
- 13:28again looking at the the response rates,
- 13:31MRD negativity, overall survival.
- 13:36And here we note the updated results.
- 13:39So with respect to the
- 13:41updated five year analysis,
- 13:43the progression free survival was not
- 13:47reached for the Dara Rev Dex combination
- 13:51and was 30-4 months for the Rev decks.
- 13:57Cohort in terms of the overall
- 13:59survival benefit,
- 14:00we do really important here to
- 14:02note is that there is an overall
- 14:05survival benefit for Dara Rev Dex,
- 14:08which is documented as a 32% reduction.
- 14:11The risk of death relative to Rev Dex alone.
- 14:17And if you see here on the
- 14:19right side of the screen,
- 14:21regardless of whether patients received a
- 14:24Lenalidomide dose of 25 or a lower dose,
- 14:28there was a progression free survival
- 14:30benefit and an overall survival
- 14:32benefit for Darryl Rev Dex relative
- 14:35to Rev Dex and the figure on the left
- 14:39here really just highlights that this
- 14:41progression free survival benefit
- 14:43that we're seeing in Maya is is quite
- 14:46remarkable and really superior to.
- 14:48Some of the other recent phase
- 14:50three trials published in transplant
- 14:52ineligible patients.
- 14:56To summarize, so after five years of
- 14:58follow up the progression free and
- 15:00overall survival benefit for Darrell
- 15:02Rev Dex versus Rev Dex was observed
- 15:05and importantly relevant here.
- 15:07This was also observed in patients with
- 15:10compromised renal function at baseline,
- 15:12irrespective of the starting dose
- 15:14of Lenalidomide was a little bit
- 15:17less pronounced than those that had
- 15:19had a lower dose lower than 25.
- 15:22But really, highlighting the impressive,
- 15:26you know, practice changing.
- 15:27Results of Maya for transplant
- 15:29and eligible patients.
- 15:33Any interest of time,
- 15:35I'm just going to briefly review
- 15:37another quadruplet based treatment
- 15:39regimen presented at ASH just back
- 15:41in December involving ISATUXIMAB,
- 15:43which is another CD 38 monoclonal
- 15:47antibody and hear the IT evolved
- 15:50isatuximab with RVD or RVD
- 15:53relative to RVD in transplant
- 15:55eligible patients and this was the
- 15:59phase three GMMG HD seven study.
- 16:05And this phase three trial demonstrated
- 16:08a improvement or superiority in MRD
- 16:12negativity rates after induction with the
- 16:15addition of the aesthetics mab antibody.
- 16:182 RVD with the MRD response rate of
- 16:2150 point 1% relative to 35% and on the
- 16:24right side of the screen. You can also.
- 16:41Is the highest described to date in a
- 16:44randomized phase three trial at 50.1%?
- 16:47Importantly, the addition of Isatuximab
- 16:50had no significant impact on the
- 16:53safety profile or dose intensity,
- 16:55and there are ongoing studies
- 16:57evaluating this combination of
- 16:59treatment for transplant eligible
- 17:01and transplant ineligible patients.
- 17:06And finally, I think it's also
- 17:08important to discuss the master
- 17:11trial which involved daratumumab,
- 17:13carfilzomib, Lenalidomide,
- 17:14and dexamethasone togus
- 17:17transplant and MRD response.
- 17:19Adaptive consolidation.
- 17:23We know that there are two have
- 17:25improves outcomes when combined
- 17:26with a proteasome inhibitor and
- 17:29or an immunomodulator agents.
- 17:30We also know that MRD negativity
- 17:34has prognostic implications.
- 17:35Now, this study incorporated a
- 17:38response adopted therapy to achieve
- 17:41MRD negativity and really aimed
- 17:44to evaluate the Natural History of
- 17:46patients with sustained MRD negativity.
- 17:52Now, the treatment included Dara
- 17:54KRD and carfilzomib was dosed at
- 17:5656 milligrams per meter squared.
- 17:58Weekly patients received 4 induction cycles
- 18:01of Derek KRD followed by a colleague.
- 18:04A stem cell transplant.
- 18:06And up to 8 cycles of Dara KRD MRD
- 18:10was assessed at each of these blocks.
- 18:13Now, patients who had two consecutive MRD
- 18:17negativity findings were transitioned
- 18:20to this phase called MRD Shore,
- 18:25which was a treatment free interval.
- 18:29Observation and surveillance.
- 18:32Those patients who did not achieve MRD
- 18:35shirt continued to receive Lenalidomide
- 18:37maintenance as their standard of care.
- 18:40And here are the results.
- 18:42You can appreciate that.
- 18:43Overall, the majority of patients at
- 18:4680% achieved MRD negativity and the
- 18:50depth of response and MRD negativity
- 18:54improved at each therapy phase.
- 18:57As you can appreciate with these
- 19:00blocks and became compareable
- 19:02among the groups with no high risk,
- 19:05cytogenetic amalies 1 high risk
- 19:07genetic anality or two or more
- 19:09high risk genetic abnormalities.
- 19:11When we assess when they assessed MRD
- 19:14to at level of 1 * 10 to the minus,
- 19:19666% of patients achieved MRD negativity.
- 19:22Their proportion here in the various
- 19:26cytogenetic abnormality populations was
- 19:28somewhat lower and it did take longer
- 19:32to achieve for those with ultra high risk.
- 19:34As you can see here in the two
- 19:37plus high risk surgical abilities.
- 19:41In terms of MRD shore, so about 71 or
- 19:4472% achieve of patients achieve them.
- 19:46Are these sure and this was
- 19:49relatively similar across the
- 19:50three cytogenetic risk groups.
- 19:52The median follow up time here was
- 19:55about 14 months and the risk of MRD,
- 19:58resurgence or clinical progression was
- 20:0240 and 27% among the standard high risk
- 20:06and ultra high risk patient groups,
- 20:10respectively. And importantly,
- 20:13none of the patients who entered this
- 20:15phase of MRD sure ultimately died
- 20:17from multiple myeloma progression.
- 20:21So, in conclusion,
- 20:22next generation sequencing,
- 20:23MRD response,
- 20:24adaptive therapy is feasible in the
- 20:26overwhelming majority of patients in
- 20:28multicenter settings with 70 to 72% of
- 20:31patients or she reaching MRD shore.
- 20:33Patients who have standard and high risk,
- 20:36newly diagnosed myeloma had similar
- 20:38depth of response and low risk of MRD,
- 20:42resurgence or clinical progression
- 20:43when they were treated with
- 20:45the master trial quadruplets.
- 20:47Stem cell transplant and MRD,
- 20:49adaptive treatment cessation and
- 20:51quadruple therapy achievement of
- 20:53confirmed MRD negative responses.
- 20:56Enables us to explore stopping treatment
- 20:58as an alternative to continuous MRD
- 21:01therapy to continuous indefinite.
- 21:04Treatment importantly,
- 21:06here again, novel therapy,
- 21:07novel,
- 21:08effective consolidation treatments should
- 21:10be explored to improve outcomes and
- 21:13clear MRD to a negative state in these
- 21:16ultra high risk patient population.
- 21:21Thank you and I will welcome questions
- 21:23at the end of this presentation.
- 21:30And I'll transfer it over to Terry.
- 21:39Thank you, I will be focusing on
- 21:41updates in relapsed refractory myeloma.
- 21:47I have no disclosures and I will be
- 21:50specifically focusing on treatment
- 21:52of triple class refractory patients.
- 21:54This is defined as those patients that
- 21:56are refractory to anime, no modulatory,
- 21:58a Jack, a proteasome inhibitor,
- 22:00and STD 38 monoclonal antibody currently
- 22:03approved agents for this classification
- 22:06includes standard chemotherapeutic regimens,
- 22:08selinexor combinations,
- 22:09fanatical axe for patients who
- 22:12harbor a translocation.
- 22:131114 and two BCM a targeted therapies.
- 22:17Mentioned at Matthew Gelatin and antibody
- 22:19drug conjugate and I do sell a car T therapy.
- 22:22Fortunately for our patients,
- 22:23there are many agents
- 22:25currently in clinical trial,
- 22:26many of which were updated at
- 22:28this year's ASH.
- 22:29These include BCM,
- 22:30a targeted therapies in the form of PCM a
- 22:33CD3 bispecific T cell engager's non BCMA,
- 22:36targeted therapies and Carty or cellular
- 22:39therapies which will be discussed by
- 22:41doctor Bark later in the session.
- 22:44First, we'll start with a presentation
- 22:46by Doctor Moreau entitled updated
- 22:48results from Majestic One at phase one,
- 22:50two study of Palestine Map Ciclista Mob
- 22:52is at BCM a CD3 bispecific antibody here.
- 22:55Phase one and two data from the
- 22:581.5 MB perchik dose was presented.
- 23:02He eligibility criteria included that
- 23:04patient be triple class exposed have
- 23:06three or more lines of prior therapy and,
- 23:09importantly,
- 23:09no prior PC may therapy patients
- 23:13receive stubborn.
- 23:14Testing at 0.06 and 0.3 makes per
- 23:17kig subcutaneously followed by weekly
- 23:20treatment of 1.5 mix perchik subcutaneously.
- 23:23The primary endpoint for the trial was
- 23:26overall response rates 40 patients
- 23:28were accrued in phase one on 125.
- 23:31In phase two.
- 23:32The median treatment duration was 5.9 months.
- 23:3538 patients had high rossetto genetics,
- 23:3820 with ISS three disease,
- 23:41and this is a heavily pretreated
- 23:43patient population.
- 23:43With five medium prior lines of therapy,
- 23:46again,
- 23:47165 patients were triple class exposed,
- 23:50with 128 being considered triple class
- 23:53refractory and 50 penta drug refractory.
- 23:57Median follow-up with 7.8 months
- 23:59and overall response rate was 62%,
- 24:02with 58% achieving Avicii,
- 24:04PR or better and 28.7%.
- 24:07Achieving the CR, or better importantly,
- 24:09the overall response rate of 62%
- 24:12was consistent across clinically
- 24:14relevant subgroups,
- 24:15including those patients that had
- 24:17high risk cytogenetics and those
- 24:19that were penta drug refractory.
- 24:21The median time to first response
- 24:23was 1.2 months,
- 24:24with a progression free survival
- 24:26rate at nine months of 58.
- 24:28Lakeside percent in patients who
- 24:30did achieve a CR better MRD.
- 24:33Negativity rate was 41.9%.
- 24:37I'm looking at the safety data.
- 24:38The most common hematologic treatment.
- 24:40Emergent adverse event was neutropenia
- 24:43occurring in 65.5% of patients with the
- 24:46most common non unity logic treatment.
- 24:48Emergent Adverse bank was cytokine
- 24:50release syndrome occurring in 71.5% of
- 24:53patients and taking a closer look at CRS.
- 24:55The meeting time to onset was two
- 24:58days with the meeting duration of
- 25:00today's 60 patients did require
- 25:02supportive care with tocilizumab.
- 25:06The conclusions from this presentation
- 25:08was that the overall response rate with
- 25:10tip list amount was 62% with responses
- 25:13that were durable and deepened overtime.
- 25:16Treatment was well tolerated
- 25:17with no dose reductions.
- 25:19The most common adverse events again
- 25:22were CRS and hematological events.
- 25:24The CRS for all low grade and 97%
- 25:27occurred during the step of dosing
- 25:29or cycle one of treatment and there
- 25:31was only one grade three event which
- 25:33resolved I can events were rare.
- 25:36If they occurred,
- 25:37were all grade one and two and resolved,
- 25:40moving on to another PC MA targeted fights.
- 25:43And doctors and represented early,
- 25:46deep and durable.
- 25:47Response to this with low rates
- 25:48of cytokine release syndrome.
- 25:50With Regina on 5458.
- 25:52Regenerx on 5458 again as ABC made.
- 25:55CD3 bispecific antibody.
- 25:56This is a phase one,
- 25:58two first in human study with key
- 26:01eligibility criteria including three
- 26:02or more lines of prior therapy,
- 26:04and these patients had to be
- 26:06triple class refractory.
- 26:07Part One was a dose escalation
- 26:10utilizing a modified 4 + 3 design with
- 26:12dose ranges from 3 to 800 milligrams.
- 26:15Part 2 will be adjust expansion at
- 26:17the recommended phase two dose step
- 26:19up dosing was utilized for week one
- 26:21and two followed by weekly dosing and
- 26:24then every other week dosing after 16 weeks.
- 26:26Primary endpoints included.
- 26:28Safety,
- 26:28tolerability and to determine the
- 26:31recommended phase two dose data for 73
- 26:34patients in phase one were presented.
- 26:36The median number of prior lens
- 26:38was five and 38% of patients
- 26:40were pentag wreck refractory.
- 26:42And looking at the safety data,
- 26:44the most common hematologic treatment,
- 26:46emergent adverse event was
- 26:48anemia seen in 32% of patients,
- 26:50followed by lymphopenia and neutropenia.
- 26:53The most common non hematological treatment
- 26:55of urgent adverse event was fatigue.
- 26:57Interestingly,
- 26:58cytokine release syndrome was
- 27:00only seen in 38% of patients.
- 27:02This was question in the presentation
- 27:04I ash and there was not a good reason
- 27:07available as to why the rates of
- 27:09serous were lower here compared with
- 27:11other bispecific T cell engagers.
- 27:13It was postulated that it may have
- 27:16to do with the step up dosing
- 27:19and or premedications.
- 27:20And looking at the efficacy,
- 27:22the overall response rates.
- 27:24Was 51%.
- 27:25This increased to 75% when you look
- 27:30at doses of 200 to 800 milligrams
- 27:33with a VGPR better at 58.5%.
- 27:35The mean time to response was
- 27:37less than one month,
- 27:38with 70% of responses occurring
- 27:40within the first two months.
- 27:42The duration of Response was not reached,
- 27:44and in patients who achieved a CR or
- 27:47stringent CR who had available data for Dove,
- 27:4910 patients were MRD negative
- 27:51at 10 to the minus 5.
- 27:59So in conclusion, the author showed
- 28:02that regenerate in 5458 yielded early,
- 28:04deepened Drabble responses as seen
- 28:06as an overall response rate is 75%.
- 28:09Fifty 8% of cheated BGR are better,
- 28:12again at the higher doses
- 28:14of 200 to 800 milligrams.
- 28:1686% of responders achieved VGPR
- 28:18better with a C or better rate of 43%.
- 28:21The probability of responders being invented
- 28:23free at 8 months was reported as 90.
- 28:2622% they showed an acceptable and
- 28:28manageable safety profile as the maximum
- 28:31tolerated dose was not reached with CRS
- 28:33being reported in only 38% of patients,
- 28:36the majority events were grade
- 28:38one occurred within the first two
- 28:40weeks and resolved within one day.
- 28:42The phase two portion of the
- 28:45study is currently recruiting.
- 28:46And moving away from a BCM,
- 28:48a target doctor,
- 28:49Krishnan presented updated Phase
- 28:51one results from monumental one at
- 28:53first in human study of Calcutta
- 28:55Mad so till catnip is a G protein
- 28:58coupled receptor family.
- 28:59See Group 5D Member D as also
- 29:02known as GPRC 5D CD.
- 29:043 bispecific antibody she presented updated
- 29:06data at the first recommended phase.
- 29:09Two dose and initial results for patients
- 29:11treated as second recommended phase.
- 29:13Two dose of 800 micrograms
- 29:15per kilogram Q 2 weeks.
- 29:17Patients had to be relapsed
- 29:19refractory or intolerant to all
- 29:20established my limit therapies and
- 29:23have measurable disease previously.
- 29:24A recommended phase.
- 29:25Two dose of 405 micrograms per kilogram
- 29:29weekly subcutaneously was identified.
- 29:31Step up testing was utilized and
- 29:33premedication was given before all step up,
- 29:35dusting and the first full dose.
- 29:37The primary end point was to
- 29:39identify the recommended phase.
- 29:40Two dose is 30 patients received
- 29:42weekly dosing and 25 at the key.
- 29:44Two weekly schedule.
- 29:45Three patients in.
- 29:47Each cohort had high risk genetics.
- 29:49The meeting number of pirate
- 29:51therapies was six and five,
- 29:52and eight and four patients,
- 29:54respectively,
- 29:54had prior be CMA directed therapy.
- 29:58And looking at the hematological
- 30:00treatment emergent adverse events,
- 30:01the most common was neutropenia and
- 30:0467 and 44% of patients followed
- 30:07by anemia and lymphopenia.
- 30:09The most common nonhematologic treatment
- 30:11emergent adverse event was cytokine
- 30:14release syndrome seen in 77 and 72%.
- 30:16It should be noted that 75% of patients did
- 30:20have skin and or nail related findings.
- 30:23In the study,
- 30:24the most common being skin
- 30:26exfoliation in 37 and 36% of patients.
- 30:29And taking a closer look at the CRS again,
- 30:32it was 77 and 72%.
- 30:34The median onset was two days,
- 30:36with the median duration of two days
- 30:4063.3% and 60% of patients in the
- 30:42two cohorts did require Tuscaloosa
- 30:45Mab for supportive care.
- 30:47And looking at overall response
- 30:49data at the median follow-up was
- 30:50nine and 4.8 months.
- 30:52They shouldn't overall response rate of
- 30:5470% and 67.7% for the Q2 week dosing.
- 30:59With Fiji, Fiji PR rates of 53.3 and 52.4.
- 31:03The trial also showed that the overall
- 31:05response rate held in patients who
- 31:08were triple class refractory at 65.2
- 31:10and 66.7% and in patients who are
- 31:14penta directory factory at 83.3%.
- 31:16Although the numbers are low.
- 31:18Five out of 6 patients.
- 31:20The median time to response was
- 31:22zero point 9 and 1.2 months,
- 31:24and the median duration of
- 31:25response was not reached.
- 31:27So in conclusion,
- 31:28the until catnip 800 microgram per KQ,
- 31:31two week dosing appeared to have
- 31:33comparable efficacy and safety
- 31:34compared to the weekly dosing
- 31:36at 405 micrograms per kilogram.
- 31:38No new safety signals were reported.
- 31:41Overall response rates range from
- 31:4367 to 70% across triple class and
- 31:45pencil drug refractory patients
- 31:47and a phase two expansion study
- 31:49of both of these recommended.
- 31:50Ways to Jesse is ongoing.
- 31:53And moving away from the bispecific
- 31:56antibodies and a presentation
- 31:58was done on loaded,
- 32:00loaded excuse me alpha which is immuno
- 32:04cytokine shows clinical activity.
- 32:06Updated results from my first
- 32:07in human phase one study.
- 32:09So Mataka Alpha is a first in
- 32:11class in unison in you know
- 32:13cytokine designed to deliver
- 32:15attenuated interferon alpha to CD.
- 32:1738 positive cells patients were
- 32:18eligible if they had three or
- 32:20more prior lines of therapy were
- 32:22refractory or intolerant to at least.
- 32:24One P&M and and could have prior
- 32:28daratumumab exposure within
- 32:29a washout period of 90 days.
- 32:31For patients who had received
- 32:32more than five months of therapy
- 32:34in the escalation portion,
- 32:35the primary ejective was determine the
- 32:38maximum tolerated dose and the dose
- 32:41escalation phase at 3 + 3 design was used.
- 32:43Looking at four different
- 32:44schedules in the expansion phase,
- 32:46they looked at a dose of 0.4 and
- 32:48makes per cake every three weeks,
- 32:50with or without dexamethasone.
- 32:51Data was presented in 29 patients,
- 32:547 of 20.
- 32:55Five patients were that had cytogenetic
- 32:57data were considered to be high risk.
- 33:00The meeting number of prior lines with
- 33:03therapy was 728 patients had prior
- 33:05CD 38 monoclonal antibody treatment.
- 33:0726 of those patients were considered
- 33:10to be monoclonal antibody refractory
- 33:12and 15 patients had prior anti
- 33:14PC and major active therapy.
- 33:17The maximum tolerated dose was
- 33:18exceeded at six weeks per kid Q4
- 33:21week dosing due to disciplining
- 33:22toxicities of a Grade 3 infusion
- 33:24reaction and prolonged grade.
- 33:264 thrombocytopenia and neutropenia.
- 33:29As a 1.5 mix per KQ,
- 33:31four week dosing,
- 33:31one patient did have a great
- 33:33treat bleeding event but was able
- 33:35to remain on treatment and three
- 33:37patients had grade 3 infections.
- 33:39The most commonly seen treatment
- 33:40emergent adverse events at the
- 33:421.5 MB per kid Q4 week dosing,
- 33:44where hematologic with thrombocytopenia
- 33:47and current 76% of patients and
- 33:49neutropenia and 69% all grades.
- 33:51Infusion related reactions
- 33:53did occur in 31% of patients.
- 33:55Most of these were grade one and two.
- 33:58The median follow-up was 4.2 months and
- 34:01the overall response rate was 38% of note.
- 34:04The overall response rate held
- 34:06at 38% in patients who were CD
- 34:0938 monoclonal antibody factory.
- 34:11The median time to response was one month.
- 34:13In those patients who achieved a PR
- 34:15or better with a median duration
- 34:17of response not being reached,
- 34:18the median progression free
- 34:20survival was 5.7 months.
- 34:23So in conclusion,
- 34:24Modaco Alpha showed promising
- 34:26single agent activity
- 34:27and patients who were heavily pretreated,
- 34:30including patients who
- 34:31were refractory toasty.
- 34:3338 monoclonal antibody had
- 34:35a manageable safety profile.
- 34:36Q For Weeks was identified as the
- 34:39optimal dosing interval and further
- 34:41enrollment identified the maximum
- 34:43tolerated dose as three mics per keg.
- 34:45A randomized phase two trial is
- 34:47planned in order to determine
- 34:49the optimal single agent dosing.
- 34:52Lastly, Dr Lonial presented herbicide
- 34:54in combination with dexamethasone in
- 34:57patients with relapsed refractory myeloma.
- 34:59Results from the district expansion of the
- 35:03CC-220MM-001 trial.
- 35:04Roberta Mine is a novel
- 35:06cereblon E3 leg is modulator,
- 35:08also known as the cell Mod.
- 35:10This was a phase one two study that,
- 35:11evaluated at EBR with different
- 35:13combinations of treatment.
- 35:15Previously, the recommended phase two dose
- 35:17was identified as 1.6 milligrams days,
- 35:19one through 21 every 28 days.
- 35:21When given in combination
- 35:23with dexamethasone here,
- 35:24she reported safety and efficacy
- 35:26and the dose expansion cohorts.
- 35:28Cohort D, which is Eber plus tax
- 35:30and cohort I which was Eber plus
- 35:32tax in patients who had prior BC
- 35:35made treatments for both cohorts.
- 35:36Patients had to have three or more lines
- 35:39of prior therapy and again for cohort I.
- 35:41All patients had treatment with her
- 35:44prior PC may targeted Agent 107.
- 35:46In patients were treated in cohort D
- 35:49and 26 in poker I 32 patients and six.
- 35:52Patients respectively,
- 35:53had high risk cytogenetics in
- 35:55the two cohorts.
- 35:56The median number of pirate therapies
- 35:57was six and seven in Cohort I6.
- 36:00Patients had prior card T 18
- 36:02and antibody drug conjugate,
- 36:04and eight bispecific T cell engager.
- 36:08The most common adverse events
- 36:10working talajic with neutropenia
- 36:12occurring in 59 point,
- 36:138% in cohort D and 42.3% in cohort I.
- 36:18Infections were common at
- 36:2157.9% AL grading Health,
- 36:23Part D and 50% in Coker I.
- 36:27I'm looking at the response data.
- 36:28The overall response was 26.24,
- 36:31cohort D and 25% in cohort I.
- 36:33Again this year they post
- 36:35be CMA treated patients.
- 36:37Additional data was presented for
- 36:38Cohort D with a median duration
- 36:40of response of seven months and
- 36:42median time to respond to 4.21
- 36:44weeks and a median progression
- 36:46free survival of three months.
- 36:48The authors concluded that in
- 36:49heavily pretreated patients,
- 36:50again 97% were Triple Classic factory.
- 36:53The combination of ever, ever,
- 36:55and Dex demonstrated clinically
- 36:57meaningful and durable responses.
- 36:58The treatment was well tolerated
- 37:00with adverse events that were deemed
- 37:03manageable with dish reductions
- 37:05and interruptions and treatment.
- 37:07Authority of grade three or four
- 37:09treatment emergent adverse events
- 37:10were primarily hematological and this
- 37:12supported the future development.
- 37:14Iber based regimens including combination
- 37:16studies with PRISM inhibitors and CD.
- 37:1838 monoclonal antibodies.
- 37:22I will stop there.
- 37:23As previously stated,
- 37:24all questions will be answered
- 37:26at the end of the program.
- 37:28Please encourage you to submit
- 37:30this in the Q&A portion and now I
- 37:32will turn it over to Doctor Barr.
- 37:48Thank you Terry so. Let's get started.
- 37:52I'm focusing on car T cell therapy in
- 37:56the relapsed refractory myeloma patients.
- 37:58I want to highlight that patients
- 38:01who are refractory to image produce
- 38:03them inhibitors and anti CD 38
- 38:05antibodies have a poor prognosis.
- 38:08These are triple class refractory
- 38:09patients and when these patients if
- 38:11they get another line of treatment,
- 38:13the chance that they will respond
- 38:15to another agent is roughly 30%.
- 38:17If they respond,
- 38:18the median progression free survival
- 38:20is often less than six months,
- 38:21with median overall survival
- 38:23often less than one year.
- 38:25Now I want to show you how
- 38:27this is no longer the case,
- 38:29as most of you already know that in
- 38:332021 the FDA approved the first car
- 38:35T cell product in myeloma this is.
- 38:38Called either sell formerly known as BB
- 38:422121 and now the train name is a Beckman.
- 38:46This is a car T cell product that
- 38:49has four one BB costimulatory
- 38:51domain and it binds to BCMA on the
- 38:54cell surface of the tumor cell.
- 38:56It's approved for patients who
- 38:58are refractory to image PRISM
- 39:00inhibitor and anti CD 38 antibody's.
- 39:0376% of the patients responded about a
- 39:06third of the patients achieve deep responses.
- 39:09CR and stringent complete response.
- 39:12Most of those patients were emordi
- 39:14negative potential negative 5th
- 39:16using next generation sequencing.
- 39:18Now,
- 39:18these patients had initially dose escalation,
- 39:21so not all of them received the same dose.
- 39:24If you look at the total population,
- 39:26the median progression free survival,
- 39:28survival was 8.8 months,
- 39:30but if you hone in on the target dose,
- 39:32the patients that received
- 39:33the target FDA approved dose.
- 39:35It is about one year.
- 39:36All the population median overall
- 39:40survival 24 months.
- 39:42Now we also know that deep responses
- 39:44lead to longer duration of response,
- 39:45and here I show you a graph where
- 39:47patients who have a CR complete
- 39:49response or higher exemplified
- 39:51by the light blue line compared
- 39:52to very good partial response by
- 39:54the Purple line and the partial
- 39:56response by the dotted purple line.
- 39:59Clearly you see that these curves
- 40:00spread out and the meaning
- 40:02of two years of follow up.
- 40:04Those patients who have a CR or higher had
- 40:06a median duration of response 21 months.
- 40:09So that's almost two years now.
- 40:14I've showed you before that only
- 40:16about a third of the patients
- 40:19got into this deep responses,
- 40:21so it's interesting to to figure
- 40:22out who who are the patients that
- 40:24went into these deep responses.
- 40:26Perhaps? Who are those that don't
- 40:27respond as well to have that mind,
- 40:29and this was presented by Nina Shaw.
- 40:31This year is ash and she looked
- 40:33at disease characteristics at
- 40:35baseline and correlated it with
- 40:37patients who had the CR or not.
- 40:39What they found is that
- 40:40patients who did not have a CR.
- 40:42Tended to have a higher soluble BCMA knob.
- 40:46May is a receptor on the
- 40:47cell surface of tumor cells,
- 40:49but it can be cleaved and then
- 40:51circulates in the bloodstream as soluble.
- 40:53BCMA is often seen with higher burden
- 40:56of disease and the conservative sink,
- 41:00so if you're giving the targeted car T
- 41:03right instead of going to the tumor,
- 41:05it's going to this soluble BCMA,
- 41:06so you can imagine how this
- 41:08would prevent its efficacy.
- 41:10The other thing they noted is that
- 41:13patients not achieving CR tended
- 41:14to have a high an increase of
- 41:17inflammatory inflammatory markers by
- 41:19having higher fare to know D dimer.
- 41:22Now these could be patients who are
- 41:24sicker and more burden of disease,
- 41:26and you might think maybe perhaps this,
- 41:28in you know,
- 41:31inflammatory microenvironment
- 41:32can impede T cell functionality,
- 41:35but again, these needs.
- 41:37This needs to be further dissected.
- 41:39These are just.
- 41:40The start of trying to understand
- 41:43biomarkers for response need
- 41:45to be tested in larger cohorts.
- 41:48They did find that having a
- 41:49higher vector copy number in the
- 41:51drug product was more associated
- 41:53with patients who had a CR.
- 41:55Now we know that number of
- 41:56car T is not the full picture.
- 41:58We also understand that quality of
- 42:00T cells are important and this is
- 42:02a diagram showing you the T cell
- 42:05differentiation from the naive T
- 42:06cell all the way to the T effector cell.
- 42:10These earlier T cell,
- 42:12the memory like phenotypes have
- 42:13some key qualities that make it
- 42:15quite attractive for car two
- 42:17products example though long lived
- 42:19so they last longer.
- 42:20They have ability to self renew
- 42:22and they have a T cell plasticity.
- 42:25Furthermore, these memory,
- 42:26like T cells,
- 42:27were correlated with peak expansion
- 42:29and sustain response in karty studies.
- 42:34So this brings me to the next abstract,
- 42:37which was presented by Doctor Raj and it
- 42:40looked at using API 3 kinase inhibitor,
- 42:43maybe 007, which is known to enrich memory
- 42:47like T cells and combine it with Ida cell.
- 42:51It in vitro and this product was now termed
- 42:55BB 2121 seven and the hypothesis is that
- 42:59higher memory like T cell in the cell
- 43:02product will improve duration of response.
- 43:05The patient characteristics here
- 43:06were similar to other karty studies.
- 43:08I want to highlight a few things.
- 43:10This was a dose escalation study,
- 43:12so 46 patients out of the 72
- 43:16received the target dose. High risk.
- 43:19Better genetics were found in
- 43:2139% of the patients.
- 43:22This is slightly higher.
- 43:23That was than what was
- 43:24reported with the back comma,
- 43:25which was around 27% and
- 43:28extramedullary disease was 22.
- 43:32Safety profile with BB 2121
- 43:34seven with similar to Avec mom.
- 43:36Not going to go into the details
- 43:38but briefly CR S 75% mostly grade
- 43:41one and two I cans which is the
- 43:44neurotoxicity that we see with car
- 43:46T cells with 15% very comparable.
- 43:48Said opinions are very common in
- 43:50general with all CAR T cells filling
- 43:53to the lymphodepletion that they
- 43:54get before and the Grade 3 and
- 43:57above infections which is clinically
- 43:59very meaningful is about 30%.
- 44:04In terms of efficacy.
- 44:06We're all response rate was 74 percent,
- 44:0939% with a CR and most of
- 44:11them being emerging negative.
- 44:13But this doesn't look very
- 44:14different than Beckman information,
- 44:16but really,
- 44:16what this study is looking at
- 44:18is duration of response,
- 44:19which I'll show you in this slide.
- 44:21So in median follow up of about two years,
- 44:24the median progression of meaning,
- 44:27progression of free survival for patients
- 44:29getting the target dose with 18 months
- 44:32and in the back MACI put in Gray.
- 44:34Here was 12 months and this is
- 44:36not a head-to-head comparison.
- 44:37Any means,
- 44:38but I want to give you this as
- 44:40a framework to kind of digest
- 44:43the the results here.
- 44:44Now in patients who achieve deeper responses,
- 44:47CR and above the median duration
- 44:49of response was 30-4 months and in
- 44:52the back of my disk was 21 months.
- 44:55They did see that memory like T
- 44:57cells in both the car T product
- 44:59and peak expansion in the patient
- 45:01was associated with better response
- 45:03and duration of response.
- 45:05So this is a good example of how
- 45:07you can build on an already
- 45:08established party product.
- 45:10The next topic will be focused on
- 45:13information updated information on
- 45:14the car T cell product that will be
- 45:17approved next and this is self sell
- 45:19sell to sell is also an anti BCMA CAR T.
- 45:23It also has a four one.
- 45:25BB costimulatory domain.
- 45:26The difference is it has two binding
- 45:30domains here extracellularly,
- 45:32so this was a two year follow-up
- 45:34of the Phase 1B2.
- 45:36Patient characteristics are represented here.
- 45:39They had almost 100 patients,
- 45:41heavily pretreated similar
- 45:43to other party studies.
- 45:44Perhaps the percentage of
- 45:46triple refractory right.
- 45:47This is triple class refractory
- 45:49little bit higher 88%.
- 45:51They do comment on penta refractory
- 45:54that's refractory to two image 2
- 45:56peas and one and CD 30 antibody.
- 45:59So this is 42% they had 23% high risk
- 46:04energetics, mostly deletion 17 P.
- 46:06And they did have 19 patients
- 46:09with extramedullary disease,
- 46:1113 patients had extramedullary disease
- 46:14plasmacytomas outside of the bone,
- 46:16which is a higher risk feature.
- 46:19So efficacy I showed you
- 46:20part of this last year,
- 46:21but there are some updates.
- 46:22Overall response rate 89.
- 46:25Sorry 98% which is great.
- 46:28So literally two patients here
- 46:31did not respond.
- 46:32However, one of those patients
- 46:35wasn't invaluable because were they?
- 46:37They couldn't really assess response
- 46:38because he's not measurable disease,
- 46:40but they did clinically response.
- 46:42Really only one patient did not respond to
- 46:45this and deep responses as you see here.
- 46:4892% stringent complete response.
- 46:50Is really unprecedented.
- 46:52The median time to first
- 46:54response was one month,
- 46:55and the median time to best
- 46:57response was about 2 1/2 months
- 47:00and then at 2 year follow up the
- 47:03median progression free survival,
- 47:04overall survival and duration
- 47:06of response was not met.
- 47:09They further looked at MRD at
- 47:1210 to negative 50 based on next
- 47:15Gen sequencing in 61 patients.
- 47:1792 I'm really negative 30 patients
- 47:20had sustained.
- 47:20From our deep at six months
- 47:23and above and 18 had sustained
- 47:25MRD at 12 months and above.
- 47:28Now looking at progression free
- 47:30survival based on depth of response.
- 47:32So patients who had a CR stringent CR
- 47:36as exemplified by the Green Line here,
- 47:39had a two year progression free
- 47:41survival of 71% compared to
- 47:4360 for the total population.
- 47:45Now going deeper,
- 47:47sustained MRD responses at six
- 47:49months and 12 months had a
- 47:51progression free survival of 91
- 47:53and 100% at 2 year follow up.
- 47:56So this is really fantastic.
- 47:58You might be wondering what is
- 48:00driving that the blue curve down.
- 48:02You know a lot of these patients
- 48:03did the cheap,
- 48:04really great responses and they did do a
- 48:07subgroup analysis trying to understand this,
- 48:09and they found that the two year
- 48:11progression first level was lower for
- 48:13patients who had baseline plasmacytomas,
- 48:15high risk cytogenetics and
- 48:17high tumor boarding.
- 48:19So this is important to keep in mind.
- 48:20Certainly these patients benefit,
- 48:21but they might not benefit as well as others.
- 48:27Safety. CRS was extremely common
- 48:31and most everyone had it mostly
- 48:33grade one followed by grade two.
- 48:35They did have a good amount
- 48:37of use totals map at 70%,
- 48:40which is higher than what's
- 48:41reported with the beckmeyer.
- 48:42Around 50% that I cams
- 48:45neurotoxicity was comparable.
- 48:4717% infections grade 3 or above 20%.
- 48:50There was six deaths related to cell to cell.
- 48:54Predominantly driven by infections and
- 48:56it followed by CRS and art existing,
- 49:00they saw 15 events,
- 49:02secondary primary malignancy and 11
- 49:04patients which were felt unrelated
- 49:07to me from from cell to cell.
- 49:09And the thought is that this is
- 49:11not out of the usual for this.
- 49:15Multiply relapsed heavily pretreated
- 49:18myeloma patient population.
- 49:20One thing to note that it's
- 49:22different with silty cells opposed
- 49:23to either sell or Beckman is that
- 49:26the CRS it has a later onset.
- 49:28The median of seven days after infusion
- 49:31compared to two days after a back comma.
- 49:33So it is a great possibility to give it
- 49:35in alkylation setting and it is being
- 49:38tested in clinical trials like that.
- 49:40Last thing to comment about
- 49:42Silver cell is this movement and
- 49:44neurocognitive adverse effects.
- 49:46When the cell to cell was first given
- 49:48to patients, they saw the incidence of.
- 49:50He's at 12% and actually was concerning the
- 49:54risk factors that they found to develop.
- 49:57This was high tumor burden.
- 49:59High car,
- 49:59T cell expansion and persistence,
- 50:01development of AI camps and
- 50:03CRS grade two or above.
- 50:06So Jameson and Team decided that they
- 50:08need to do something about this and
- 50:10develop patient management strategies,
- 50:12including enhancing bridging therapy to
- 50:15reduce tumor burden before they get the
- 50:18Kartik and early and aggressive treatment.
- 50:20For CRS and I cans and
- 50:22probably is with driving,
- 50:23the higher use of toasting in this agent.
- 50:26With this there have been no further
- 50:28toxicities in the current incidents
- 50:31in over 200 patients treated on
- 50:33several clinical trials at 0.05,
- 50:36and this is important because this is
- 50:38what held up after your approval of
- 50:40this drug last year and now seems to
- 50:42be much better in much better shape
- 50:45and will likely be approved next week.
- 50:47I do want to highlight that
- 50:49solar cells being used.
- 50:50Earlier in in the treatment course
- 50:52for myeloma and we will have a study
- 50:55open here using cell to cell as
- 50:57part of upfront treatment myeloma.
- 50:59The last topic I will talk about
- 51:01is another car T product that is
- 51:04targeting the GPRC 5D protein.
- 51:06This is called mcar H 109.
- 51:11GPRC 5D is expressing my luma cells
- 51:13as well as skin and hair follicles.
- 51:15It's a. It's a receptor that actually
- 51:17no one really understands what it does.
- 51:20This is a small study.
- 51:22At Memorial Sloan Kettering 16 patients.
- 51:25But what is unique is that these are
- 51:27really heavily pretreated patients.
- 51:29Very high risk population,
- 51:32so everyone was panda exposed.
- 51:34Almost everyone was triple class refractory.
- 51:3760% had higher risk,
- 51:39may targeted therapy.
- 51:40Most of that car T 77 had high risk.
- 51:44Better genetics,
- 51:45including one Q amplification which
- 51:47you know it's very high risk.
- 51:49About half had plasmacytoma months and.
- 51:52About 20% had non secretary Malama,
- 51:55which is really a patient population not
- 51:57represented in the clinical studies.
- 52:00So this is a swim plot of swimmers
- 52:02plot of responsive follow-up
- 52:04of 18 months dose escalation.
- 52:07You see here the doses go up
- 52:09with higher doses.
- 52:10It does seem that there are deeper
- 52:12responses you can see by the green bars.
- 52:14The follow up is relatively
- 52:16short for these patients.
- 52:17Overall response rate about 70%.
- 52:20About 1/4 achieved a complete response.
- 52:22All populations,
- 52:23so more to follow on that
- 52:26safety was manageable.
- 52:28Sierras 93% similar to cell to cell.
- 52:31There was one patient that had a
- 52:35grade 3IN neurotoxicity in terms of
- 52:38off off tumor on target side effects,
- 52:41nail changes, rash taste changes.
- 52:43We're seeing all grade one all transient.
- 52:48So this is a great product is furthering it.
- 52:51It goes into.
- 52:52Further development with the
- 52:55multicenter study.
- 52:56So with that I will end my part of the talk.
- 53:05And move on to doctor Browning.
- 53:14OK great so thank you again
- 53:16to all for for joining
- 53:17and those who may be able to stay on a
- 53:20little bit past the 1:00 o'clock hour.
- 53:22So with the remaining time I will
- 53:24review a few abstracts highlighting
- 53:25basic and preclinical work in multiple
- 53:28myeloma and then provide an update
- 53:30on the management of patients with
- 53:32light chain or ALE amyloidosis.
- 53:35And I have no disclosures to report,
- 53:37so this slide outlines the abstracts
- 53:39I will review with you today.
- 53:40I'd note that there were many exciting
- 53:43preclinical updates in myeloma with
- 53:44a focus really on immunology in the
- 53:46myeloma immune microenvironment,
- 53:48as well as advances in genomics
- 53:50and myeloma pathogenesis.
- 53:52And I will highlight abstract 159,
- 53:54which provides us with an updated
- 53:56analysis from a practice changing
- 53:58study in AL Amyloidosis.
- 54:00So to begin,
- 54:01obesity is is closely linked to
- 54:03my Loma pathogenesis and has also
- 54:06been associated with increased
- 54:08mortality in multiple myeloma.
- 54:10It is thought that obesity increases
- 54:12the production of proinflammatory
- 54:14cytokines and adipokines adipokines
- 54:16and leads to ectopic accumulation of
- 54:18adipocytes in the bone marrow which can
- 54:20change the bone marrow microenvironment.
- 54:22And in this abstract presented
- 54:24by Doctor Hsu from the Sun Yat
- 54:27Sen Cancer Center in China,
- 54:29the authors aim to investigate
- 54:30the role of bone marrow.
- 54:31Adipocytes in myeloma Genesis and explore
- 54:34potential novel therapeutic agents
- 54:36targeting the bone marrow microenvironment.
- 54:39They evaluated patients with newly diagnosed
- 54:42multiple myeloma and healthy controls.
- 54:44The myeloma patients were separated
- 54:46into two groups based on BMI and
- 54:48underwent testing from bone marrow
- 54:50that included RNA sequencing,
- 54:52metabolomics and flow cytometry analysis.
- 54:57And there was an increase in bone marrow
- 54:59adipocytes in patients with myeloma and
- 55:01and metabolomic analysis revealed that
- 55:03several metabolites work very closely,
- 55:05associated with BMI with glycerolipid
- 55:08metabolism enriched in myeloma
- 55:10patients with obesity RNA sequencing
- 55:12data from the bone marrow.
- 55:14Adipocytes showed that patients with
- 55:16myeloma had an increased expression of
- 55:19fatty acid binding protein or FAP four,
- 55:21and this is seen in figures A&B with FA PB
- 55:244 having an important role in linking lipid.
- 55:27Metabolism with immunity and inflammation
- 55:30and obesity further enhanced the
- 55:32expression of FA FA BP4 in these studies
- 55:35to further evaluate the potential role
- 55:38of fabp 4IN pathogenesis in myeloma,
- 55:40the authors studied of fabp 4 knockout
- 55:43and wild type mice who were fed a high
- 55:45fat diet for 12 weeks and you can see
- 55:48here in figure see that the knockout
- 55:51mountain mice had less tumor burden by
- 55:53PET scan and as displayed in figured D,
- 55:55they also had improved overall survival.
- 56:00The authors then applied and FAP
- 56:024 inhibitor known as BMS 309403,
- 56:05which resulted in significant
- 56:07attenuation of the tumor burden
- 56:09and improved survival and obesity
- 56:10induced myeloma mice as outlined
- 56:12in the two figures on this slide.
- 56:14So, in summary, these data suggest
- 56:16that bone marrow adipocytes,
- 56:18which are increased in obesity,
- 56:19may shape metabolism and immunity
- 56:22in the bone marrow microenvironment
- 56:24environment and play a role in
- 56:26promoting myeloma pathogenesis.
- 56:27This certainly requires further
- 56:29investigation, though it does raise.
- 56:31An important question regarding
- 56:33whether modification of obesity
- 56:34and other such associated risk
- 56:36factors can serve as a preventative
- 56:38strategy in multiple myeloma.
- 56:42In this next abstract that was
- 56:44presented by Doctor Simone Mini
- 56:46at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center,
- 56:48the combination of immunomodulatory,
- 56:50the immunomodulatory drug,
- 56:51Lenalidomide, and an antigen
- 56:53antibody was studied in mice.
- 56:55After undergoing autologous
- 56:57stem cell transplantation.
- 56:58As many of you know,
- 56:59high dose chemotherapy and autologous
- 57:01stem cell rescue has been shown to
- 57:04provide progression free survival
- 57:05benefit in multiple myeloma.
- 57:07Though in myeloma disease,
- 57:08relapses are expected,
- 57:09and there is definitely a
- 57:11need to enhance the antitumor
- 57:12efficacy of stem cell transplant.
- 57:14As you can see in the figure here,
- 57:16autologous stem cell transplant
- 57:18via lymphodepletion and immune
- 57:21reconstitution reconstitution is
- 57:23thought to establish a myeloma
- 57:25immune equilibrium with an
- 57:26inflammatory microenvironment.
- 57:28However, tumor escape is inevitable,
- 57:30and exhaustion of CD 8 positive
- 57:32T cells is thought to play a
- 57:35major role in disease relapse.
- 57:36TIGIT, which is an inhibitory receptor,
- 57:38is upregulated on exhausted T
- 57:41cells and is thought to play a
- 57:43major role in disease of relapse,
- 57:45with studies showing a strong
- 57:47association between myeloma burden and
- 57:49expression of TIGIT on CD 8 positive
- 57:52T cells and mice status post stem
- 57:54cell transplant there for you guys.
- 57:56As you can imagine,
- 57:56TIGIT has emerged as an attractive target
- 57:59for immunotherapy in multiple myeloma.
- 58:02So in this study,
- 58:03myeloma mice underwent high dose
- 58:04Milo ablative radiation and then
- 58:06received bone marrow grafts,
- 58:08followed by the administration
- 58:10of a antigen monoclonal antibody,
- 58:12twice weekly for five weeks,
- 58:14starting on the day of transplant or day
- 58:16zero and then Lenalidomide administered
- 58:17daily for three weeks beginning on day,
- 58:20plus 14 and synergistic anti myeloma
- 58:22activity was observed with this combination.
- 58:25As you can see in figure B,
- 58:27there was a significant reduction
- 58:29in the rate of tumor growth
- 58:30and also improved median.
- 58:32Overall survival in the mice who
- 58:34received this combination post
- 58:36transplant and the authors also found,
- 58:39through flow cytometry and flow,
- 58:41some clustering,
- 58:42that this combination increased T
- 58:44cell memory and reduced exhaustion
- 58:46as displayed in the representative
- 58:48heat map on the bottom right
- 58:51in Figure C and lastly,
- 58:52the combination of of an anti
- 58:55TIGIT monoclonal antibody and the
- 58:564th generation image or cell mod
- 58:58I iberty mid which was discussed
- 59:01by Doctor Parker earlier.
- 59:02In our discussion is now entering
- 59:05human trials shortly.
- 59:10So to move, move along light chain or
- 59:12a lymphoid ossis is a rare systemic
- 59:15disorder of clonal plasma cells
- 59:17that generate aberrant or abnormal
- 59:19immunoglobulin light chains which
- 59:21misfolded form insoluble amyloid fibrils.
- 59:24These fibrils then deposit into
- 59:26extracellular tissues and organs resulting
- 59:29in impairment of vital organ function
- 59:32and sometimes or often death with
- 59:34the introduction of novel therapies,
- 59:35there has been improvement in
- 59:37overall outcomes and prognosis
- 59:38for ALE amyloidosis which were.
- 59:40Historically, very, very grim.
- 59:42In an abstract 155,
- 59:44which was presented by Doctor Starin from
- 59:46the Boston University Amyloidosis Center,
- 59:49there was a 40 year Natural History
- 59:51study that was reviewed on outcomes
- 59:52for patients with a lambdoid seen
- 59:54at their center and what they found
- 59:56is displayed on on the slide.
- 59:58Here was that in a cohort of
- 60:00a slightly over 2300 patients,
- 01:00:02the five year overall survival improved
- 01:00:04from 15% between 1980 and 1989 to 48%
- 01:00:08in the most recent decade that was studied,
- 01:00:10which was 2010 to 2019.
- 01:00:13Median overall survival improved from
- 01:00:151.4 to 4.6 years and the six month
- 01:00:18mortality rate dropped from 23% to 13%.
- 01:00:21When comparing between these
- 01:00:23two time periods, however,
- 01:00:25amyloid remains a challenging disease,
- 01:00:26both due to delays in diagnosis
- 01:00:28and and challenges with treatment,
- 01:00:30notably,
- 01:00:30in patients with cardiac involvement
- 01:00:33and further advances in therapy
- 01:00:35are really crucial.
- 01:00:36So the Andromeda study is a phase three
- 01:00:40randomized open label controlled trial
- 01:00:42that compares our prior standard of
- 01:00:44care for amyloid which was Bortezomib,
- 01:00:47cyclophosphamide and dexamethasone.
- 01:00:50Ortved versus VCT,
- 01:00:52VCD,
- 01:00:52plus the anti CD 38 monoclonal
- 01:00:55antibody daratumumab which was
- 01:00:57administered subcutaneously in
- 01:00:59patients with newly diagnosed tail.
- 01:01:01Amyloid and cardiac stage one through 3/8
- 01:01:04disease were recruited for the study.
- 01:01:06And both arms received for
- 01:01:09six cycles with the study,
- 01:01:11the protocol or daratumumab arm
- 01:01:13getting VCD Times 6 studies 6
- 01:01:15cycles and then monotherapy with
- 01:01:17their two mab every four weeks
- 01:01:19for a maximum of 24 total cycles.
- 01:01:21Prior analysis at 6 and 12 months
- 01:01:23revealed that the addition of
- 01:01:25subcutaneous there are two in
- 01:01:27map to VCD resulted in deeper and
- 01:01:29more rapid hematologic response
- 01:01:31is also improved organ,
- 01:01:32responses and prolongation of major
- 01:01:35major organ deterioration progression.
- 01:01:37Free survival and this data led to
- 01:01:40Derrived being the first approved
- 01:01:43therapy for a limoy dose in nine
- 01:01:46countries with FDA accelerated
- 01:01:48approval granted in January of 2021,
- 01:01:51and so the current abstract presented
- 01:01:54by Doctor Raymond Comenzo from Tufts
- 01:01:56University provided an update after
- 01:01:59a median follow-up of 25.8 months.
- 01:02:03So these tables outline the demographics
- 01:02:05and baseline characteristics of patients
- 01:02:07that have been enrolled in Andromeda,
- 01:02:09and they were well balanced
- 01:02:11between the two treatment arms.
- 01:02:13The median age of in the dairy
- 01:02:15VCD arm was 62 years and both arms
- 01:02:18had a slate mail predominance.
- 01:02:20I would like to point out that
- 01:02:22only three to 4% of patients on
- 01:02:24both arms in this study identified
- 01:02:25as black or African American,
- 01:02:27which is important in considering the
- 01:02:29the generalizability of these results,
- 01:02:31and was a a discussion when
- 01:02:33this abstract was presented at.
- 01:02:34Gosh, I think really highlighting the
- 01:02:37importance of improving improving
- 01:02:38diversity in our clinical trials,
- 01:02:40and that includes in trials
- 01:02:42of plasma cell disorders.
- 01:02:4466% of patients had involvement of two
- 01:02:46or more organs with cardiac and renal
- 01:02:48involvement being the most common,
- 01:02:50and importantly,
- 01:02:5136% of the patients in the dairy VCD
- 01:02:54arm had stage 3A cardiac disease at
- 01:02:57the median follow-up of 25.8 months.
- 01:03:0177.2% of patients in the dairy VCD arm
- 01:03:03had received daratumumab monotherapy.
- 01:03:06After six cycles of Derrived and 36%
- 01:03:09of patients and either in both groups
- 01:03:12had discontinued study treatment.
- 01:03:14So over two years of follow up,
- 01:03:16more patients achieved a hematologic
- 01:03:19complete response in the Derrived arm at
- 01:03:2160% compared to only 19% on the VCD arm.
- 01:03:25And you can see this hematologic
- 01:03:27complete response response is
- 01:03:29deepened overtime in the dairy group.
- 01:03:31Patients achieving a very good partial
- 01:03:34response or better improved from 77%
- 01:03:36of the time of primary analysis to
- 01:03:3879% in this updated analysis analysis.
- 01:03:42Importantly,
- 01:03:42hematologic complete response was higher
- 01:03:44with therapy CD and all prespecified
- 01:03:47subgroups and those included groups
- 01:03:50with cardiac involvement at baseline.
- 01:03:52Those who had cardiac stage three disease
- 01:03:54and those with translocation 1114,
- 01:03:56which makes up about 50 to 60%
- 01:03:59of our ale amyloid population.
- 01:04:04And as you can see in these graphs,
- 01:04:05the cardiac and renal response rates
- 01:04:08in patients receiving derived were
- 01:04:10significantly higher at both 6 and 18
- 01:04:13months when compared to the VCD arm at
- 01:04:15the 18 month mark presented at this ash,
- 01:04:18both cardiac and renal response
- 01:04:19rates were more than twice as
- 01:04:21high as the organ responses that
- 01:04:23were achieved with just VCD alone,
- 01:04:25and it's important to to remember that
- 01:04:27organ response and Dale amyloidosis
- 01:04:29can be delayed or lagged behind.
- 01:04:31Hematologic response in that organ responses.
- 01:04:35Are thought to really improve quality of
- 01:04:38life in this complex patient population.
- 01:04:42There were a greater number of deaths
- 01:04:44related to disease progression
- 01:04:45in the VCD arm,
- 01:04:46though with a longer time on therapy,
- 01:04:48the absolute number of deaths while on
- 01:04:51treatment was higher in the Derrived arm?
- 01:04:53Serious treatment,
- 01:04:54emergent adverse events occurred in
- 01:04:5647% of patients on the Derrived arm.
- 01:04:59And 36% of patients receiving VCD
- 01:05:02alone with pneumonia being the
- 01:05:04most common serious adverse event
- 01:05:06that was observed in both groups.
- 01:05:08The rate of discontinuation due to
- 01:05:10treatment emergent events was similar in
- 01:05:12both groups and the most common adverse
- 01:05:14events observed in the study are outlined,
- 01:05:16and the tables at the bottom of this slide.
- 01:05:21So in summary,
- 01:05:22after more than two years of follow-up
- 01:05:24hematologic and Oregon response has
- 01:05:26continued to increase with their trauma
- 01:05:28BCD when compared with VCD alone.
- 01:05:30Fortunately,
- 01:05:30there were no new safety concerns that were
- 01:05:33identified with this longer follow-up,
- 01:05:35and overall survival will be analyzed and
- 01:05:38major organ deterioration progression.
- 01:05:40Free survival will be updated
- 01:05:42after approximately 200 events,
- 01:05:44though at the median follow-up
- 01:05:46presented here of 25.8 months,
- 01:05:48there were fewer deaths that
- 01:05:49were observed in the derived.
- 01:05:51Farm as outlined here.
- 01:05:52And so this updated analysis really
- 01:05:55confirms the treatment benefit
- 01:05:57of this regimen out to 18 months,
- 01:05:59and supports derrived as a new
- 01:06:01standard of care for our patients
- 01:06:03with newly diagnosed ALE amyloidosis?
- 01:06:08So the final abstract that I will
- 01:06:10touch upon was presented by Doctor
- 01:06:12Jason Valent from the Cleveland Clinic,
- 01:06:14and it reviewed the safety and tolerability
- 01:06:17of Cal 101 in combination with anti plasma
- 01:06:20cell therapy for patients with a lamb.
- 01:06:22Lloyd Ossis and this was from a one year
- 01:06:25results from an open label phase two trial.
- 01:06:28So, as we previously discussed,
- 01:06:30amyloid fibril deposition and
- 01:06:31organs results in organ dysfunction
- 01:06:33with significant morbidity and
- 01:06:35mortality for patients with a lamb.
- 01:06:37Lloyd and our standard of care anti
- 01:06:39plasma cell therapy is just discussed.
- 01:06:42Really decreases the production of
- 01:06:44amyloid oh genic like chains by
- 01:06:46targeting abnormal bone marrow plasma
- 01:06:48cells but doesn't address the amyloid
- 01:06:50fibrils already present in and organs.
- 01:06:53So Cal 101 is a chimeric monoclonal
- 01:06:55antibody and it binds annio appetite.
- 01:06:58That's present on both Kappa
- 01:07:00and Lambda light chain fibrils,
- 01:07:02resulting in proteolysis and removal
- 01:07:04of the amyloid fibrils from tissues
- 01:07:06and organs in a phase.
- 01:07:08One study of this agent Cal 101 was
- 01:07:10well tolerated up to 500 milligrams
- 01:07:12per meter squared in patients who
- 01:07:14had relapsed or refractory ale,
- 01:07:15amyloid and in the phase two component.
- 01:07:18It was tolerated up to 1000 milligrams
- 01:07:20per meter squared when administered
- 01:07:21in combination with standard of
- 01:07:23care and I plasma cell therapy,
- 01:07:25and this was the patients recruited had
- 01:07:28cardiac stage one through three a disease.
- 01:07:32So 25 patients are included in
- 01:07:34the analysis that was presented
- 01:07:36at ASH and all had a confirmed
- 01:07:38diagnosis avail amyloid at least a
- 01:07:41six month minimum life expectancy.
- 01:07:43And there were the patients
- 01:07:44recruited were not planned for
- 01:07:46autologous stem cell transplant in
- 01:07:48the first six months of the study.
- 01:07:50Patients were excluded if they had
- 01:07:52concomitant multiple myeloma or
- 01:07:53symptomatic orthostatic hypotension.
- 01:07:55And subjects received four
- 01:07:57weekly doses of Cal.
- 01:07:58101 and then biweekly dosing
- 01:08:01until clinical deterioration,
- 01:08:02toxicity or death,
- 01:08:03and as you can see in the schema
- 01:08:05in the top left of this slide,
- 01:08:07Part B of the study added daratumumab
- 01:08:09to the standard of care therapy
- 01:08:11based on the Andromeda trial.
- 01:08:13The mean age of the study
- 01:08:15group was 65.2 years,
- 01:08:16with the majority being male.
- 01:08:1880% of the patients had cardiac
- 01:08:20amyloid involvement in 92% of
- 01:08:22these individuals had cardiac
- 01:08:24stage two or three a disease.
- 01:08:2696% of patients had treatment
- 01:08:28emergent adverse events with the
- 01:08:30most common ones being listed in
- 01:08:31the table at the bottom right.
- 01:08:33Here,
- 01:08:33the only 24% of those were felt
- 01:08:36to be related to treatment and
- 01:08:38most adverse events were were
- 01:08:40low grade with the the thought
- 01:08:43that the cardiac safety of this
- 01:08:46agent was really more warm or well
- 01:08:50tolerated than expected overall.
- 01:08:52So though there was a limited
- 01:08:54number of patients,
- 01:08:5518 of the 20 patients with cardiac
- 01:08:58involvement showed stability or
- 01:09:00improvement based on the NT Pro BNP values,
- 01:09:02with some of the 35% of those who responded,
- 01:09:06reportedly showing dramatic
- 01:09:07improvement and similarly eight of
- 01:09:09nine patients with renal involvement
- 01:09:11at baseline achieved renal responses
- 01:09:13with more than 30% reduction in
- 01:09:16their proteinuria and some patients
- 01:09:18having very rapid and deep responses.
- 01:09:21So to summarize,
- 01:09:21Cal 101 appears to be very well tolerated.
- 01:09:24And safe in combination with
- 01:09:26our standard of care anti plasma
- 01:09:28cell therapy which is now.
- 01:09:29There are two memorable plus V CD
- 01:09:31and it has yielded cardiac and renal
- 01:09:34responses in a majority of patients.
- 01:09:36Cal 101 is now being studied
- 01:09:38in phase three trials.
- 01:09:39For patients with Mayo stage
- 01:09:413/8 and also stage 3B disease.
- 01:09:44Cardiac disease which was previously
- 01:09:46excluded from this and from a patients
- 01:09:49that were previously excluded from
- 01:09:51this and from the Andromeda trial.
- 01:09:54So I will stop there and.
- 01:09:56We will move to questions and answers.
- 01:10:01OK, thank you everyone
- 01:10:04for great presentations.
- 01:10:06I will start by asking know
- 01:10:07far could you tell us your
- 01:10:09perspective on how would you
- 01:10:10envision CAR T cell therapies in
- 01:10:12the coming years in the future
- 01:10:14for transplant eligible patients?
- 01:10:17I think it's a very good question.
- 01:10:18I mean, many studies are looking at that.
- 01:10:20I think moving clearly you see
- 01:10:22unbelievable responses in patients who
- 01:10:24typically didn't respond like this.
- 01:10:26So one could imagine even better
- 01:10:28responses and longer duration of
- 01:10:30responses and more fit patients with a
- 01:10:32better immune system and given up front.
- 01:10:35So then I think this is what?
- 01:10:37The future is going to be.
- 01:10:38It's going to be evaluated upfront in
- 01:10:41transplant eligible and ineligible patients.
- 01:10:45Right, and can you comment either?
- 01:10:46Either the M car or the cell to cell.
- 01:10:50Were there any any subjects included
- 01:10:53with them? CNS involvement.
- 01:10:57No CNS involvement. These are excluded.
- 01:11:03I think within our practice we
- 01:11:05have had patients who had a CNS
- 01:11:07enrollment and they've been treated.
- 01:11:08These are anecdotal,
- 01:11:09but I'm sure it's evolving.
- 01:11:15I also wanted to ask a question of
- 01:11:17doctor Browning Sobrino how how do
- 01:11:20you approach treating your frontline.
- 01:11:22A Lloyd doses patients.
- 01:11:25Yeah, I think you know.
- 01:11:25I think that's that's an important
- 01:11:27question because of the role
- 01:11:29that that autologous stem cell
- 01:11:31transplant has played in amyloid.
- 01:11:32In terms of, you know,
- 01:11:34improve improvement in progression,
- 01:11:35free and overall survival,
- 01:11:37but I think now you know the the
- 01:11:39hematologic and organ response
- 01:11:41rates in Andromeda with their
- 01:11:43VCD are really impressive,
- 01:11:45and I think importantly,
- 01:11:46the responses occur rapidly,
- 01:11:48which is an important in terms
- 01:11:50of subsequent organ responses.
- 01:11:51So I would say that you know,
- 01:11:54I think in in.
- 01:11:55Most of our patients we should
- 01:11:57use Darragh VCD and then the
- 01:11:59question becomes of those
- 01:12:00patients who should go on to get
- 01:12:02autologous stem cell transplant.
- 01:12:04And I think what we and other
- 01:12:07centers have adopted is in
- 01:12:08patients who have achieved a
- 01:12:10hematologic complete response.
- 01:12:11The thought is that there may
- 01:12:14not be additional benefit to
- 01:12:16to auto transplant and that
- 01:12:17those patients have transplant
- 01:12:19available available to them if
- 01:12:21they were to relapse subsequently.
- 01:12:24Great and a question for Terry
- 01:12:28with this in this competing
- 01:12:29environment of therapies for
- 01:12:31relapsed refractory myeloma. Where
- 01:12:34where do you position
- 01:12:36by tone? Approach.
- 01:12:41Yeah, and that's a good question.
- 01:12:44So it's you know, a lot of these
- 01:12:46trials are still in early phase,
- 01:12:48and they're still in really
- 01:12:50heavily treated patients.
- 01:12:52So I think we don't know
- 01:12:53which ones gonna win, right?
- 01:12:55All the bispecific seem to have very similar
- 01:12:58toxicity profiles as far as CRS minimal.
- 01:13:00I can't hematological toxicity.
- 01:13:02I do see the by specifics being moved
- 01:13:05into that one to three lines of therapy,
- 01:13:08especially if we can improve
- 01:13:10upon the duration of response.
- 01:13:12Similar to kind of what never
- 01:13:13was saying with the car.
- 01:13:14T and then I believe the question of
- 01:13:16car T versus advice specifics really
- 01:13:18gonna come up and the vice specifics.
- 01:13:20Maybe for those individuals who really can't.
- 01:13:22Wait for the car tne treatment
- 01:13:26sooner rather than later,
- 01:13:28as a majority of their responses
- 01:13:30were seen within a month of therapy.
- 01:13:32And so I think it's going to depend
- 01:13:34on how extensive the disease is,
- 01:13:36how quickly a patient needs therapy,
- 01:13:37and how fit they are overall.
- 01:13:39But I think we have a question in the
- 01:13:42chat if you see it for Doctor Gore shot.
- 01:13:45So the question asks outside
- 01:13:49of the clinical trial context,
- 01:13:52when would you use Dara?
- 01:13:54RVD in clinical setting? General
- 01:13:57standard of care.
- 01:14:00He said, is that meant to be
- 01:14:02Dara, RVD, or this is our VP.
- 01:14:05Well I guess spread needs Prednisone,
- 01:14:08Prednisone or dexamethasone platinum.
- 01:14:12So I I think that I mean look.
- 01:14:15Obviously we have a couple of options here.
- 01:14:17You know, like we discuss VRD backbone.
- 01:14:19Well established, efficacious.
- 01:14:20You know if you're if you're a little
- 01:14:23more concerned about high risk,
- 01:14:25there are some centers that would go KRD,
- 01:14:29but to me I think that the quadruple it we
- 01:14:34see the durable improvement in response is,
- 01:14:38you know, approaching the 24
- 01:14:40month of maintenance therapy.
- 01:14:41So if a patient has.
- 01:14:43If a patient can tolerate a quadruplet.
- 01:14:47You know whether they're
- 01:14:48standard risk or high risk.
- 01:14:50I would strongly consider that.
- 01:14:53Yeah, I agree, I think the quadruplet
- 01:14:56therapies for monoclonal antibody
- 01:14:58backbone are entering the frontline
- 01:15:00care and with more and more data
- 01:15:02accumulating and data maturing to show.
- 01:15:04So far it's the murded superiority.
- 01:15:08But we know from separate trials that
- 01:15:11MRD negativity is associated translates
- 01:15:13into much improved progression,
- 01:15:15free survival and overall survival.
- 01:15:17So I think the field is really evolving and
- 01:15:21which one will emerge as the next favorite.
- 01:15:24Therapy is a big question.
- 01:15:26I think one has to consider
- 01:15:28that high risk patients.
- 01:15:31You know situation may still not be optimal,
- 01:15:33so further work needs to be done
- 01:15:36for the high risk population.
- 01:15:38Say I think it's hour and 15 minutes,
- 01:15:40which is the time we provisioned
- 01:15:42for this seminar.
- 01:15:43I don't see any other questions.
- 01:15:45Any other discussion from
- 01:15:46the from the panelists here?
- 01:15:51If not, we will conclude and thank you very
- 01:15:53much for participation. Everyone, thanks.
- 01:15:56Thank you everyone. Thank you.