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Advances in Treatment of Hemophilia and Targeting dsRNA in Tumors to Overcome Immunotherapy Resistance

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Advances in Treatment of Hemophilia and Targeting dsRNA in Tumors to Overcome Immunotherapy Resistance

November 20, 2020

Yale Cancer Center Grand Rounds | November 10, 2020

Robbert Bona, MD and Jeffrey Ishizuka, MD, DPhil


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Transcript

  • 00:00The hearts go out to his wife.
  • 00:03Doctor Kellie Martin is two
  • 00:05children tests and Jacob and just
  • 00:08take a moment just to silence
  • 00:10just to recognize Tony's legacy.
  • 00:21Well, thank you, so let's now turn
  • 00:24to our first of two great speakers.
  • 00:28We were very fortunate this year
  • 00:31to recruit Doctor Jeffrey Ishizuka.
  • 00:34Jeff is an assistant professor of medicine.
  • 00:38And Jeff's work.
  • 00:39Previously at Harvard was was
  • 00:42focused on the biology of T cells.
  • 00:44Discovering knew better understanding
  • 00:46of that biology and and and
  • 00:49ultimately leveraging that science
  • 00:50to what is likely to be the next
  • 00:54generation of amino therapies.
  • 00:55And we're really very fortunate to have
  • 00:58Jeff as one of our physician scientists in
  • 01:01the center of molecular Italian Colosseum,
  • 01:04member of the Melanoma program,
  • 01:07and physician scientists in general at.
  • 01:09At Yale and Smile also,
  • 01:11Jeff really excited to hear about your work.
  • 01:14Turn it over to you.
  • 01:17Thank
  • 01:17you so much Charlie, really appreciate
  • 01:20it and let me just project my slides.
  • 01:23How there we go?
  • 01:25Yes, thank you so much and thank you
  • 01:28for the opportunity to speak today.
  • 01:30Today I'm going to be talking to you
  • 01:32about some of the work we've done.
  • 01:34Targeting double stranded RNA in
  • 01:37order to overcome immunotherapy
  • 01:38resistance and also update on
  • 01:40other ongoing projects in the lab.
  • 01:42This is my disclosure slide.
  • 01:45I wanted to begin with the overall survival
  • 01:48curves from the Checkmate 067 trial,
  • 01:51which is likely familiar to this audience.
  • 01:54These curves represent survival in
  • 01:56advanced Melanoma by patients treated
  • 01:58with immune checkpoint blockade.
  • 01:59In this case,
  • 02:00with antibodies targeting PD 1C,
  • 02:02TL A4 or the combination.
  • 02:05I wanted to start here because
  • 02:06Melanoma has been something of
  • 02:08a touchstone for the use of
  • 02:10checkpoint blockade in solid tumors.
  • 02:11First indication approved and remains
  • 02:13one of the indications in which immune
  • 02:15checkpoint blockade is most effective
  • 02:16in these data are outstanding,
  • 02:18particularly when compared with the pre
  • 02:20immunotherapy standard of Care Dakar Busine,
  • 02:22which had an overall survival
  • 02:23of five to 10% at five years.
  • 02:26However,
  • 02:26even in this disease,
  • 02:28large proportion of patients
  • 02:29don't experience durable benefit.
  • 02:31The situation which is which is
  • 02:33actually more challenging in other
  • 02:35diseases where responses are less good.
  • 02:38And this is really the focus of
  • 02:39our work to improve responses
  • 02:41in this disease and in others.
  • 02:46Certainly, however, if you check,
  • 02:48my blockade is rapidly reshaping the
  • 02:49landscape of cancer care across indications.
  • 02:51I was preparing for this talk and I
  • 02:53had to go through and update this slide
  • 02:56because indications have nearly doubled
  • 02:58since its original publication by
  • 02:59Tony Ribas and Jed will Chuck in 2018.
  • 03:01Although many of us have followed
  • 03:03this emerging data very closely,
  • 03:05I have to admit that it gave me pause to
  • 03:08consider the pace of change in this field.
  • 03:11The advancement of PD one access approvals
  • 03:14continues through lymphomas and solid
  • 03:17tumors of desperate tissue origins.
  • 03:19Combination approaches have also
  • 03:20proliferated, including approaches,
  • 03:22approvals in music, leoma,
  • 03:24breast cancer, and others.
  • 03:26Successful combinations include
  • 03:27combinations of checkpoint inhibitors
  • 03:29with other checkpoint inhibitors,
  • 03:31chemotherapies and touristing
  • 03:32kinese inhibitors,
  • 03:33and notably many here at Yale,
  • 03:36have played critical roles in this dance.
  • 03:42Still, for all the advances,
  • 03:43there have been a lot of failures and
  • 03:46there remain a lot of ongoing challenges.
  • 03:48For most, many patients don't respond,
  • 03:50indeed, considered across all indications,
  • 03:52most patients don't respond in a few
  • 03:54of the response rates listed are
  • 03:56really based on earlier trials that
  • 03:58likely overestimated response rates.
  • 04:00Many of them also include
  • 04:02biomarker cutpoints,
  • 04:03PDL 1 positive ITI and this sort of thing.
  • 04:07And in my mind there are really a couple
  • 04:09of big areas in which we can improve.
  • 04:111st for all of the new indications,
  • 04:14few combinations involving novel
  • 04:17targets have been approved.
  • 04:192nd, we have a limited mechanistic
  • 04:22understanding of how these agents work.
  • 04:25Accordingly,
  • 04:25the biomarkers that we used to deploy
  • 04:27them lack sensitivity and specificity,
  • 04:29and there's not a great way to rationally
  • 04:32prioritize combinations with anti PD one.
  • 04:36So it's worth considering for a moment what
  • 04:37we've learned about response and resistance,
  • 04:39not so much in the interest of
  • 04:41an extensive overview for which
  • 04:42we wouldn't have time today,
  • 04:43but in terms of the pathways that have
  • 04:46given the strongest clinical signals to date.
  • 04:48The data shown here are from the study
  • 04:51by Merck of over 300 different patients
  • 04:53across 22 different tumor tissue types.
  • 04:56These figures show responses.
  • 04:59Non response defined as CR
  • 05:01or PR versus no CR PR.
  • 05:04When graphed with tumor mutational burden
  • 05:06on the Y axis and a gene expression profile
  • 05:09representing tumor microenvironment,
  • 05:11inflammation kind of T cell
  • 05:12inflammation on the X axis.
  • 05:14The genes in this profile are listed in the
  • 05:17upper right here and notably include PDL,
  • 05:20one among them as well as several MHC related
  • 05:23genes and kind of T cell related genes.
  • 05:28Tumor mutational burden, as you know,
  • 05:30is often used as a surrogate for
  • 05:32too many antigens and the gene
  • 05:34expression profile really points
  • 05:35to information of the tumor,
  • 05:37micro environment and the authors make
  • 05:39two points that are important here.
  • 05:41First, that these are two of the
  • 05:43strongest predictors they could find.
  • 05:45Reviewing one of the largest
  • 05:46and most comprehensive datasets
  • 05:48that existed at the time.
  • 05:49Really, it's telling us in second
  • 05:51that they appear to predict response
  • 05:52independently of one another.
  • 05:54That is to say that although the
  • 05:56best responses are in that kind of.
  • 05:58Upper right quadrant that you actually get
  • 06:01a good number of responses in a T cell.
  • 06:05Inflamed only micro environment,
  • 06:06or in TMB only TB high only tumors.
  • 06:12For the sake of time today,
  • 06:13I won't spend a lot of time
  • 06:15on TMB or antigen load,
  • 06:17so it's obviously an important consideration.
  • 06:18Instead, I'm just going to talk about
  • 06:20tumor microenvironment information,
  • 06:21which is really the focus of our lab.
  • 06:23Aside from the work by the Merck
  • 06:25Group A number of lines of evidence
  • 06:27have established inadequate tumor
  • 06:28microenvironment information.
  • 06:29As one of the most prominent mechanisms
  • 06:31of resistance to me, no therapy.
  • 06:33Most dramatically,
  • 06:34this occurs in immune desert type tumors,
  • 06:37which entirely lack T cell infiltrate,
  • 06:39as depicted here. However,
  • 06:41it can also occur in a different phenotype.
  • 06:44The so-called immune excluded
  • 06:45tumors which have anti tumor immune
  • 06:47cells at the site of the tumor,
  • 06:49although they are excluded
  • 06:50from the tumor core,
  • 06:51either by physical barriers
  • 06:53or by immune signaling.
  • 06:55Finally,
  • 06:55we believe that there is the T cell
  • 06:57inflamed type of tumor that have
  • 06:59diffuse infiltration of T cells
  • 07:01that tend to be PD L1 positive,
  • 07:03and these are the ones that we
  • 07:06believe respond best to immunotherapy.
  • 07:09To date,
  • 07:09there's been progress in identifying
  • 07:11therapeutic strategies to enhance this
  • 07:13tumor microenvironment information,
  • 07:14many of which involve either real
  • 07:16or simulated infection of the tumor
  • 07:18to trigger anti tumor immunity,
  • 07:20and I think about them in kind
  • 07:22of two big buckets.
  • 07:24The first is the provision of
  • 07:26exogenous sources that mimic
  • 07:28nucleic acid ligands to tumors.
  • 07:30This includes sting agonist,
  • 07:31MDA 5 or rig I agonist,
  • 07:33double stranded RNA sensing
  • 07:35pathways and uncle lytic viruses.
  • 07:37The other is the induction of endogenous
  • 07:40sources of nucleic acid ligands,
  • 07:43primarily endogenous retroviruses,
  • 07:44although others have been published recently,
  • 07:47alualu repeats in humans.
  • 07:51And examples of this include a
  • 07:53deciding in CDK 46 inhibitors.
  • 07:57So my interest in turning these cold
  • 08:00microenvironments hot and kind of
  • 08:02providing these logins to tuners really
  • 08:04developed out of work in the Canings
  • 08:07lab was finishing my postdoctoral work
  • 08:09there and through the type of experiment
  • 08:11that I'm showing here on the left,
  • 08:14you have kind of a transplantable tumor
  • 08:16cell line, something like a B16 Melanoma,
  • 08:19and the way the experiment works is to,
  • 08:22in fact, that cell line with a
  • 08:24library of CRISPR CAS 9 guides
  • 08:26that knockout thousands of.
  • 08:28Immunologically relevant genes.
  • 08:29In the genome and then to kind of
  • 08:33select those guides until you have
  • 08:35a pool of knockout tumor cell lines
  • 08:38that is then implanted into mice
  • 08:40under increasing immune selective
  • 08:42pressure from extremely immunodeficient
  • 08:44mice that lack T cells to mice with
  • 08:46an intact immune cell system.
  • 08:482 mice treated with immunotherapy.
  • 08:50In this case,
  • 08:51the irradiated GM CSF secreting
  • 08:53whole tumor cell vaccine GBX,
  • 08:55plus anti PD one kind of strong
  • 08:58immunotherapy treatment regiment.
  • 08:59Would grow these tumors for about
  • 09:012 weeks and then remove them.
  • 09:04Harvested tumors and sequence the sequence.
  • 09:06The barcodes sequence the guides using
  • 09:09them as barcodes and quantitating.
  • 09:11Enrichment and depletion of each
  • 09:13guy and the way we interpreted
  • 09:15this experiment was to compare high
  • 09:17to lower mean selective pressure.
  • 09:20So immunotherapy treated to
  • 09:22immunodeficient mice, for example,
  • 09:23and to interpret it that guides
  • 09:25that were depleted.
  • 09:27Comparing height alone,
  • 09:28selective pressure represented Jews that,
  • 09:30when deleted, convert sensitivity.
  • 09:32To the mean system,
  • 09:34and therefore potential targets
  • 09:36for combination therapy.
  • 09:38In contrast,
  • 09:39guides that were enriched under
  • 09:41strongly selective pressure suggested
  • 09:42to US jeans that were lost made
  • 09:44tumors resistant to new therapy.
  • 09:48And a lot of the targets that we
  • 09:50found this way actually ended up in
  • 09:52the kind of realm of double stranded
  • 09:54RNA sensing or antiviral triggering,
  • 09:56and this is really the area that
  • 09:58I focused on throughout my time.
  • 10:01And this guy is thinking because a lot of
  • 10:03what we know about viral infection comes
  • 10:06from the study of exonerees viruses.
  • 10:08But of course the genome is comprised
  • 10:11largely of repetitive elements that have
  • 10:14the potential to form double stranded RNA.
  • 10:17These could be small interspersed
  • 10:19nuclear elements and obvious retrovirus.
  • 10:21Endogenous retroviruses are long
  • 10:23interspersed nuclear elements or or others.
  • 10:26And so we considered that that we've
  • 10:29Co evolved with these elements.
  • 10:31With these kind of viral remnants
  • 10:33in many cases and ourselves have
  • 10:35developed systems to regulate double
  • 10:37stranded RNA sensing to distinguish
  • 10:39between double stranded RNA.
  • 10:41That's a result of normal cellular
  • 10:43activity and exogenous viral threats.
  • 10:45And so we thought that by targeting some
  • 10:48of the genes that control this regulation,
  • 10:51we might sensitize tumor cells
  • 10:52to tumor therapy.
  • 10:53Trigger this kind of anti virus state.
  • 10:58And the top hits that we discovered
  • 11:01through this process in the antiviral
  • 11:03sensing arena was this paid.
  • 11:05R18 R is an adenosine deaminase
  • 11:07that acts on double stranded RNA.
  • 11:10It has a long cytoplasmic P-150 isoform.
  • 11:12That's interferon inducible and a short.
  • 11:15Constitu Tively Express P110I support him.
  • 11:19The main known function of edar is to
  • 11:21catalyze the conversion of adenosine
  • 11:22to in a scene and double stranded RNA.
  • 11:25And it's thought that in so doing it
  • 11:27prevents double stranded RNA sensing in
  • 11:30the triggering of antiviral immunity.
  • 11:32Kind of autoimmunity.
  • 11:33Accordingly,
  • 11:33there is an autoimmune syndrome called
  • 11:36Acardi Goutieres syndrome that is
  • 11:38associated with biallelic mutations
  • 11:40of a Darwin on the catalytic domain.
  • 11:43It can be quite severe effects
  • 11:45children and mimics viral infection.
  • 11:47However, Interestingly,
  • 11:47the parents of affected patients
  • 11:49who have monolith mutations in the
  • 11:52catalytic domain have evidence of
  • 11:54increased signatures of interferon
  • 11:55gene expression in the blood,
  • 11:57but have no detectable disease phenotype,
  • 11:59suggesting that there's a gene dose effect.
  • 12:04So to begin to validate our
  • 12:06one as a potential drug target
  • 12:08for combination immunotherapy.
  • 12:09We created dedicated knockout tumor cell
  • 12:12lines again using the B16 Melanoma model.
  • 12:15This transplantable tumor model and
  • 12:16we implanted these into mice under
  • 12:19increasing selective pressure.
  • 12:20It means selective pressure starting
  • 12:23with the extremely immunodeficient
  • 12:24nods give gamma mice that entirely
  • 12:27lack adaptive immunity and have
  • 12:29only impaired innate immunity.
  • 12:31In these mice,
  • 12:32looking at the 8 Arnold tumors,
  • 12:34either P-150 knockouts in Orange,
  • 12:36P-150 P, 110 knockouts in red
  • 12:38compared to controls and Gray,
  • 12:39and looking at tumor volume on the top,
  • 12:42or survival in the bottom,
  • 12:44you can see a sort of minimal
  • 12:46decrease in the growth of the
  • 12:49Darnell tumors compared to controls.
  • 12:51And a minimal increase in survival.
  • 12:55In contrast,
  • 12:55when planted these tumors into wild
  • 12:57type mice with an intact immune system,
  • 12:59you see a significant decrease in
  • 13:01the growth of tumors in a significant
  • 13:03survival advantage for the mice.
  • 13:05Finally,
  • 13:05when we implemented these tumors into
  • 13:08mice and treated with anti PD one,
  • 13:10we saw a near 100% cure rate for
  • 13:12mice treated that were a Darnall and
  • 13:15almost no cures in the control chambers.
  • 13:18So to start to understand
  • 13:20the mechanism of this,
  • 13:21we looked at the tumor micro environment
  • 13:23of untreated a Darnall and control
  • 13:25tumors 14 days after implantation,
  • 13:27and we did this using immuno histo
  • 13:29chemistry and as you can see on the
  • 13:32left in control tumors you have
  • 13:34the immune desert type phenotype.
  • 13:36Almost no CD8T cells infiltrating.
  • 13:38In contrast,
  • 13:39in a Darnall tumors we saw this
  • 13:41T cell inflamed phenotype with
  • 13:42diffuse infiltration of CD8T cells.
  • 13:44Quantitative here on the right.
  • 13:49To understand this more deeply,
  • 13:50we next perform flow cytometry.
  • 13:52Again with tumors 14 days after
  • 13:54implantation in the untreated setting,
  • 13:56and as you might predict,
  • 13:58we saw an increase in CD 45
  • 14:01positive immune cells and a Darnell
  • 14:04tumors compared with controls.
  • 14:06And then looking within the CD 45 compartment
  • 14:08we saw increases in CD 3 positive T cells,
  • 14:12CD 4 positive T cells,
  • 14:13CD 8 positive T cells,
  • 14:15gamma Delta T cells and NK cells.
  • 14:19In contrast, when we looked at
  • 14:22immunosuppressive populations,
  • 14:23including mdse and tumor
  • 14:25associated neutrophils,
  • 14:26we saw significant increases in control
  • 14:30tumors relative to a Darnall tumors.
  • 14:34Finally, to probe the micro
  • 14:35environment yet more deeply,
  • 14:37we perform single cell RNA sequencing.
  • 14:39These are the populations we
  • 14:41recovered with myeloid populations
  • 14:43in the upper right and T cell
  • 14:46populations in the bottom left.
  • 14:48As you can see,
  • 14:50using these density plots that
  • 14:51we adapted for this purpose,
  • 14:53you get a strong signal from suppressive
  • 14:56myeloid populations and to like
  • 14:58macrophages and mdse in control tumors.
  • 15:00But a weaker signal from inflammatory
  • 15:02monocytes and CD8T cells.
  • 15:03In contrast,
  • 15:04in the 8 Arnold tumors you
  • 15:06have hardly any signal from the
  • 15:08suppressive minded populations
  • 15:09and and enrichment of single from
  • 15:11inflammatory monocytes and CD8T cells.
  • 15:16To understand what's driving this
  • 15:18change in the micro environment,
  • 15:20we wanted to study the double
  • 15:22stranded RNA sensing pathways that
  • 15:24we thought could be associated
  • 15:25with the phenotypes we'd observed.
  • 15:28Specifically, we wanted to understand the
  • 15:30role of protein kinase are an MD5 rig,
  • 15:33I and nouns which are both associated
  • 15:35with his internal sensors of nucleic
  • 15:38acids in double stranded RNA,
  • 15:40specifically protein kinase power
  • 15:41is associated with translation
  • 15:43arrest in a pop ptosis.
  • 15:44Upon binding double stranded RNA.
  • 15:47Where is MD5 regarding mass induced type
  • 15:50one interferon in the antiviral state?
  • 15:53To test the role of each of these sensors,
  • 15:56we generated a series of double
  • 15:58and triple knockout tumor cell
  • 16:00lines and probe some of the in
  • 16:02vitro phenotypes that we previously
  • 16:04previously studied in a Darnell tumors.
  • 16:06Specifically,
  • 16:07we looked 1st at growth inhibition.
  • 16:09So when you stimulate control
  • 16:11tumors with interferon in vitro,
  • 16:13there's a slight defect in growth that's
  • 16:17magnified when you knockout eight R1.
  • 16:20Looking at our double knockouts,
  • 16:22we saw no effect of knocking out rig.
  • 16:25I MDA 5 or Mens but saw that knocking
  • 16:28out peak PQR reduced the phenotype to
  • 16:31the levels observed in control tumors,
  • 16:34suggesting a PQR was alone.
  • 16:37Responsible for the in vitro
  • 16:39growth defect that we'd observed.
  • 16:41We next looked at interferon beta production.
  • 16:44And this was again an in vitro Aliza and
  • 16:47tumor cells stimulated with interferon.
  • 16:50As you can see,
  • 16:52control tumors produce no
  • 16:54detectable interferon,
  • 16:54whereas a Darnall tumors
  • 16:57produces significant quantity.
  • 16:58This is maintained from the loss
  • 17:00of Rig I suggesting that guy is
  • 17:02not involved in the phenotype.
  • 17:04However,
  • 17:04following the loss of MDA,
  • 17:06Five Man's or PK are you see a
  • 17:08significant reduction suggesting
  • 17:09that all three of these sensors,
  • 17:11or these two sensors in this adapter
  • 17:13have a role to play in phenotype.
  • 17:17We next wanted to understand which of
  • 17:20these double stranded RNA sensing pathways
  • 17:21was required for the in vivo phenotype of
  • 17:24sensitization to whom checkpoint blockade.
  • 17:26So we took our double and triple knockout
  • 17:28tumor cell lines and implanted them into
  • 17:30mice, treating the mice with PD one.
  • 17:33Antibodies targeting PD one,
  • 17:34and as you can see in our control experiment,
  • 17:37control tumors continue to grow out
  • 17:39as they did previously for us in the
  • 17:41eternal summers respond well to,
  • 17:43you know, therapy.
  • 17:45This phenotype persisted following
  • 17:47loss of PQR, suggesting that PQR is
  • 17:50alone not required for the phenotype.
  • 17:53Similarly.
  • 17:53It persisted following loss of MD5,
  • 17:57suggesting MDA 5 alone does not
  • 18:00explain the phenotype.
  • 18:01However.
  • 18:02Following the deletion of both PK
  • 18:04are in MDA 5 together with eight
  • 18:06or one we no longer observe any
  • 18:08difference between the growth of
  • 18:10eight R1 knowledge control tumors
  • 18:12treated with immunotherapy.
  • 18:14Together,
  • 18:14these results suggested to us that
  • 18:16growth inhibition by PQR or antiviral
  • 18:19sensing by MDA 5 amounts sufficient
  • 18:21mediate sensitivity to no therapy
  • 18:23but that at least one is required.
  • 18:28We next wanted to understand which
  • 18:30double stranded RNA sensing pathway
  • 18:32was required for the enhanced community
  • 18:34filtration for the inflammation in the
  • 18:36tumor microenvironment that we'd observed.
  • 18:39And so we again used our double and
  • 18:41triple knockout tumor cell lines.
  • 18:43In this time return to our habit of
  • 18:45looking at the tumor microenvironment,
  • 18:47dissecting the tumors out,
  • 18:49separating out the cells,
  • 18:50and quantitating them.
  • 18:52To look which sensor was was required.
  • 18:57In our control tumors,
  • 18:58you see a relatively low infiltration
  • 19:01of immune cells that significantly
  • 19:03increased following loss of eight R1.
  • 19:05And Interestingly,
  • 19:06this phenotype is,
  • 19:07if anything exaggerated following
  • 19:09loss of protein kinase are however
  • 19:12it's attenuated following loss of
  • 19:13MBA 5 and oblated following the
  • 19:16loss of the two senses together.
  • 19:18A similar pattern followed when
  • 19:19we looked at the proportion of
  • 19:22the 45 positive immune cells that
  • 19:24was comprised of CD8T cells,
  • 19:25again,
  • 19:26increases in eight are null that
  • 19:28persisted following loss of PQR
  • 19:30was attenuated following loss
  • 19:32of MD5 with loss following the
  • 19:34loss of both sensors together.
  • 19:36When we look at a immunosuppressive mdse,
  • 19:39we saw the opposite pattern
  • 19:41increases in control that persisted
  • 19:43or work were even increased.
  • 19:45Further following loss of PQR and no
  • 19:48loss of the phenotype following loss
  • 19:50of MDA 5 for the two sensors together.
  • 19:57This suggested to us that MBA five
  • 19:58may be playing the predominant role.
  • 20:00And inducing tumor microenvironment
  • 20:02inflammation may darnel tumors.
  • 20:04To confirm this,
  • 20:06we looked at the production of interferon
  • 20:08beta interferon gamma in the tumor
  • 20:11microenvironment of the eternal jiggers.
  • 20:13And we saw a similar pattern again
  • 20:15increases in a terminal tumors that
  • 20:18persisted following loss of PQR but was
  • 20:20lost after law after loss of MD5 or the
  • 20:23two sensors together in the same pattern.
  • 20:25Again looking at tumor
  • 20:28lysate interferon gamma.
  • 20:29So haven't seen having seen
  • 20:31this powerful dual mechanism for
  • 20:33sensitizing tumors to immunotherapy.
  • 20:35We asked whether loss of eight R1 was
  • 20:38sufficient to overcome commonly acquired
  • 20:40mechanisms of resistance to amino therapy,
  • 20:43including genetic aberrations
  • 20:45that have been identified as
  • 20:47enriched when comparing discordant,
  • 20:48responsive,
  • 20:49pretreatment,
  • 20:49and resistant posttreatment lesions.
  • 20:51Matched with the same patient.
  • 20:54Known mechanisms that fit this
  • 20:57description include the loss of MHC one
  • 21:00through mutations of HLA or beta 2M,
  • 21:02loss of targeting,
  • 21:03children expressing through Mino,
  • 21:05editing mutations and interferon sensing
  • 21:07pathways including interferon gamma receptor,
  • 21:09the Jackson,
  • 21:10the stats.
  • 21:13And we focused first on the loss of MHC one,
  • 21:16as mediated by loss of data to microblogging
  • 21:19which has been repeatedly identified as
  • 21:21important in challenging form of resistance.
  • 21:24To create this model we
  • 21:26again use CRISPR CAS 9.
  • 21:28This time deleting beta 2 micro
  • 21:30globulin and eight are together.
  • 21:32Along with creating match
  • 21:34control tumor cell lines.
  • 21:37To validate our model of resistance,
  • 21:39we compared control in beta two of null
  • 21:41tumors in the untreated that is dashed
  • 21:44line state versus the treated state.
  • 21:47That's the solid lines using again,
  • 21:49this strong immunotherapy treatment
  • 21:51regimen of GBX and PD one.
  • 21:54And we did this because the normal
  • 21:56control chambers responded very poorly
  • 21:58to PD one and we wanted to make sure
  • 22:00that we could see a response in control
  • 22:03tumors and then validate that it was
  • 22:05lost in the beta two unknown tumors.
  • 22:08And sure enough,
  • 22:09that's what we did see you can see the
  • 22:11control tumors respond albiate transiently.
  • 22:13Alternately,
  • 22:13do grow out to this strong unit
  • 22:15therapy treatment regiment,
  • 22:16but made it to heaven.
  • 22:18All tumors hardly respond at all.
  • 22:22We next looked at a Darnall tumors.
  • 22:25This is our positive control
  • 22:26experiment using strong again
  • 22:27with therapy treatment regimen.
  • 22:29We got a great response to treatment.
  • 22:31The untreated tumors grow out,
  • 22:33albeit more slowly than controls.
  • 22:36Strikingly, however,
  • 22:37this sensitivity persisted following
  • 22:39loss of beta two microglobulin,
  • 22:41suggesting that loss of a Darwin
  • 22:43in tumors is sufficient to overcome
  • 22:46this mechanism of resistance.
  • 22:48This result was a bit surprising actually.
  • 22:50At first, as it suggests that CD8T
  • 22:52cell recognition with MHC one in
  • 22:54tumors is not in all cases required
  • 22:56for the response to amino therapy.
  • 22:58It also raises the question as to
  • 23:01whether it could be possible to
  • 23:03target tumors that entirely lack
  • 23:04high quality CDH cell antigens.
  • 23:06A lot of ongoing work in the
  • 23:08lab is focused on dissecting the
  • 23:09mechanism of this finding,
  • 23:11and one of the first
  • 23:12things we wanted to know.
  • 23:14Is whether antigenic vaccine GBX,
  • 23:16which was unsuccessful in
  • 23:17translating to human use,
  • 23:19was required for this response.
  • 23:23This is actually pretty new data
  • 23:24or afraid with PD one alone,
  • 23:26and found that indeed you still get
  • 23:28great responses in a Darwin all tumors.
  • 23:32Even without the gmax.
  • 23:34To start to understand this
  • 23:36mechanism further, we again looked
  • 23:38in the tumor microenvironment,
  • 23:39this time focusing on our beta 2M
  • 23:41null compared to control tumors.
  • 23:43And so, as you would expect,
  • 23:46increased immune infiltration
  • 23:47CD 45 positive cells.
  • 23:50But now focused on some of these
  • 23:52MHC one non MHC one restricted
  • 23:55cytotoxic populations and these
  • 23:57include granzyme B positive CD
  • 24:004 positive T cells and NK cells.
  • 24:02With the hypothesis that perhaps
  • 24:04these cells which don't require MHC
  • 24:07one for recognition of tumor cells.
  • 24:09May be involved in the phenotype
  • 24:13we've observed.
  • 24:14We've also begun to dissect the
  • 24:16cytokinin kyma kind drivers,
  • 24:17by which these populations may
  • 24:19be recruited and activated.
  • 24:21These graphs are from side to kinda be
  • 24:24Teresa Beta to null and a Darnall tumors.
  • 24:28The two prominent chemo kinds
  • 24:29were identified so far.
  • 24:31CX CL 10 in CCL 5.
  • 24:34Which are both significantly
  • 24:35increased in our beta to emulate
  • 24:37our one all tumors compared with
  • 24:39beta to a control control tumors.
  • 24:44Notably Ehrenring here at Yale has
  • 24:46described a similar phenotype of
  • 24:47being able to overcome the loss
  • 24:49of MHC one using a modified I'll
  • 24:5118 side kind that he designed.
  • 24:52So this remains another possibility
  • 24:54that we haven't yet explored.
  • 24:56However, we think this type of study
  • 24:59is important 'cause articulating the
  • 25:00general principles by which loss of MHC
  • 25:02one can be overcome could lead to new
  • 25:05treatment approaches to target tumor
  • 25:06specific immune evasion mechanisms.
  • 25:11In summary, I hope I've convinced
  • 25:13you have several points.
  • 25:14First aid are one loss over improves the
  • 25:18response to me to therapy. Specifically,
  • 25:21it can overcome the lack of evidence.
  • 25:23Plain tumor, micro environment and the
  • 25:26loss of antigen presentation by image C1.
  • 25:29Additionally, this phenotype is
  • 25:31driven both by tumor microenvironment,
  • 25:33inflammation mediated by MDA
  • 25:355 and sensitization.
  • 25:36Interferon driven by PK are.
  • 25:40Finally, and I think this may be important.
  • 25:43Tumor cells contain sufficient innate
  • 25:45lightning into drive therapeutic information.
  • 25:47If they are in need.
  • 25:49Nucleic acid sensing
  • 25:50checkpoints are disabled.
  • 25:52And what we think this implies is that
  • 25:54there may be other similar innate
  • 25:56immune checkpoints that limit the
  • 25:57sensing of double stranded RNA or other
  • 26:00nucleic acid ligands that we could
  • 26:01think about as therapeutic targets.
  • 26:05And really, those questions inform the
  • 26:07rest of the work that the lab is doing.
  • 26:10I've mentioned already a focus on
  • 26:12double stranded RNA and eight R1.
  • 26:14We're also applying functional genomics
  • 26:15to try to identify other novel targets.
  • 26:18Really, with the insight that we
  • 26:19have to focus on turning on some of
  • 26:22these pathways of double stranded RNA
  • 26:24sensing or micro violent information.
  • 26:27And then we're involved in human translation,
  • 26:29doing kind of in depth tumor
  • 26:31microenvironment investigation across
  • 26:32several different tumor indications.
  • 26:34We're always looking for new
  • 26:37collaborators there.
  • 26:38And all of this comes under the rubric
  • 26:41of therapeutically targeting the
  • 26:43information in the tumor microenvironment.
  • 26:45In just the last couple of minutes here,
  • 26:47I want to quickly mention some of
  • 26:49the ongoing projects in the lab that
  • 26:51I haven't talked about this far.
  • 26:52First, I mentioned just the project.
  • 26:57Describing how to Riker environment
  • 26:59inflammation can overcome the
  • 27:01loss of MHC one.
  • 27:02This is being led by Jessica Way,
  • 27:05but she's Additionally leading a project.
  • 27:09Looking at human tumors and trying
  • 27:10to turn these pathways on in ex
  • 27:13vivo samples as well as doing deep
  • 27:14dissection of the micro environment.
  • 27:16Where we go is working on novel
  • 27:19strategies to detect double stranded
  • 27:20RNA and to mimic the sensors of double
  • 27:23stranded RNA that we believe will be
  • 27:26compatible with functional genomic
  • 27:28screening in the identification of
  • 27:30novel cancer immunotherapy targets.
  • 27:32And finally,
  • 27:32even Kim who is in the lab focused on the
  • 27:36comparison of discordant response lesions.
  • 27:39So responsive and resistant lesions.
  • 27:42From the same patient trying to
  • 27:44understand novel mechanisms of
  • 27:46resistance to new therapies so
  • 27:47that we can focus on overcoming.
  • 27:50With that I want to thank everybody in
  • 27:52our lab as well as our collaborators
  • 27:55and mentors here at, you know,
  • 27:57have been fantastic.
  • 27:58I also wanted knowledge at Nikki
  • 28:00Ning my form. Enter drumming.
  • 28:01So much of the work that I presented early
  • 28:04derives from from studies with them,
  • 28:06and of course our funding here
  • 28:08at the Cancer Center and the
  • 28:10International Research Alliance.
  • 28:11With that, I will wrap up.
  • 28:13Thank you so much for the chance to present,
  • 28:16and I'm happy to take questions.
  • 28:19Jeff, thank you. That's just
  • 28:21terrific work and really exciting.
  • 28:23And we we have folks can submit questions.
  • 28:27We have one question.
  • 28:28Mike Hurwitz asked.
  • 28:30So given the response in eight R1
  • 28:33knockouts in the absence of MHC class one,
  • 28:36do you think that's function of
  • 28:38CD4T cells or NK cells, or both?
  • 28:42Or some other mechanism? Yeah,
  • 28:44I think that's a great question and we
  • 28:46definitely would love to know that answer.
  • 28:50Best hypothesis Now is that partially
  • 28:52based on some of the work that Ehrenring
  • 28:56is presented in Marcus Bosenberg.
  • 28:58NK cells could be an important player there.
  • 29:01Certainly there increased and we
  • 29:02started to see some cytokines in Kemah
  • 29:04kinds that may activate them further,
  • 29:06but you know, we don't even know for
  • 29:08sure that CD8T cells aren't important.
  • 29:10That's an experiment we're doing now.
  • 29:12We just know they're not recognizing the
  • 29:14tumor, but could they be activated through
  • 29:16cross presentation or another means is
  • 29:18another question that we're investigating.
  • 29:21And then you know, in related work.
  • 29:24Obviously Akiko, Saki,
  • 29:25and Anna Pile of working independently on
  • 29:28Rig Rig I are iguana, which which it is.
  • 29:31But which obviously is not necessarily
  • 29:34related to the function vadar one,
  • 29:36and you know how?
  • 29:38How do you see those two with those
  • 29:41two sort of bodies of work relating?
  • 29:44Yeah, so this is
  • 29:46a great question Charlie and actually
  • 29:48Akiko is one of my mentors here and.
  • 29:52Collaborators and we've talked about this.
  • 29:55We're actually in the process of testing.
  • 29:58Are a guy at. Egotist with the innate
  • 30:03arnolin control tumor cell lines and
  • 30:05you know the colloquial way we we
  • 30:07thought about this is kind of as a
  • 30:09maximum inflammation bomb because what
  • 30:11we've shown is that any interferon
  • 30:13producing stimulus can trigger this
  • 30:158 Arnold amplification of sensing,
  • 30:16and so our hypothesis would be that if
  • 30:18you initiate signaling through a guy,
  • 30:20even if there a guy is not involved
  • 30:23in the pathways we've described here,
  • 30:25you basically create a massive
  • 30:26amplification of interferon,
  • 30:27buy by further knocking out eight
  • 30:29R1 so that remains to be seen,
  • 30:32but that's what I would hypothesize.
  • 30:34Yeah, that's interesting.
  • 30:35It sounds like a great
  • 30:37opportunity to look at that.
  • 30:38Well, I I want to keep us on time,
  • 30:41so Jeff, thank you.
  • 30:42I know there are other questions
  • 30:44coming in and people should certainly
  • 30:46reach out to you directly, Jeff.
  • 30:48But thank you for a superb presentation
  • 30:51and let me now turn to our second speaker,
  • 30:54doctor Robert Bone and Bob Bone is a
  • 30:56professor of medicine in hematology,
  • 30:58and recently the past year joins us as the
  • 31:01director of the Benign Hematology program,
  • 31:03as well as the medical director of
  • 31:06the Hemophilia Treatment Center.
  • 31:08Prior to joining Yale,
  • 31:09Bob was founding faculty member
  • 31:11and leader at the Frank Netter
  • 31:14School of Medicine at Quinnipiac,
  • 31:16as well as a professor of medicine at
  • 31:19the University of Connecticut School of
  • 31:21Medicine and Bob throughout his career,
  • 31:24really has been a leader in in in the
  • 31:27clinical care and sort of advancing
  • 31:30work in hemostasis thrombosis as well
  • 31:32as benign hematologic conditions.
  • 31:35And we're really,
  • 31:36very fortunate Bob to.
  • 31:38That Bob,
  • 31:38now leading this section and sharing
  • 31:40with his work with us.
  • 31:42So Bob thank you.
  • 31:44Thank you, Charlie for that introduction
  • 31:47and for the opportunity to speak today.
  • 31:50Let me just share my screen here.
  • 31:53So good afternoon everybody.
  • 31:56And what I would like to do in the
  • 31:58next 25 minutes or so is discuss with
  • 32:01you some of the advances that have a
  • 32:04curd in the treatment of hemophilia
  • 32:07and what I hope to show you is that
  • 32:09over the past five years there have
  • 32:11really been significant and substantial
  • 32:13advances which came in the background
  • 32:16of really several decades of really
  • 32:18only modest advances in therapy.
  • 32:21So just as a brief review here,
  • 32:24these are excellent disorders,
  • 32:26mostly affecting men,
  • 32:27but can also affect women who might
  • 32:30have low factor levels due to
  • 32:33unequal X chromosome inactivation,
  • 32:35hemophilia A&B or deficiencies
  • 32:37in factor 8 or 9 respectively.
  • 32:39They are clinically identical disorders
  • 32:42and the severity of the disease
  • 32:45is really relies primarily on the
  • 32:48residual factor that is remaining
  • 32:50in the blood with those with severe.
  • 32:53And moderate disease having less
  • 32:55than 5% of factor 8 or factor 9
  • 32:57and those with mild disease having
  • 33:00a higher value and morbidity and
  • 33:02mortality is due to spontaneous
  • 33:04and trauma induced bleeding,
  • 33:06including bleeding into joints which
  • 33:09can cause a hemophilic arthropathy
  • 33:12which we can be quite quite disabling.
  • 33:15And just the history of hemophilia
  • 33:17treatment in the last century
  • 33:19is seen briefly on this slide,
  • 33:21and at the end of World War Two
  • 33:24blood or plasma transfusions were
  • 33:26used to treat patients.
  • 33:28This these were largely ineffective,
  • 33:30is only small amounts of factor 8 or
  • 33:33factor 9 could be transfused in the 1960s.
  • 33:36Cryoprecipitate was discovered
  • 33:37as a source of Factor 8,
  • 33:40and that quickly gave way to the
  • 33:42use of factor concentrates either
  • 33:44factor 8 or factor 9.
  • 33:46Purified from the plasma of
  • 33:4910s of thousands of donors.
  • 33:51And of course,
  • 33:52while this advanced care,
  • 33:54it also exposed individuals to a
  • 33:56number of viral viral particles and
  • 33:59hepatitis C and HIV became a very
  • 34:02significant problem in this population.
  • 34:04And then in the early 90s
  • 34:07recombinant factors 8:00 and 9:00,
  • 34:09or produced and for the developed world,
  • 34:12where economically this was allowable
  • 34:14of the treatment of hemophilia
  • 34:17with recombinant factors 8 and 9.
  • 34:19Became really the standard of
  • 34:23care up until very recently.
  • 34:26There are now about 145 federally
  • 34:29funded hemophilia treatment centers
  • 34:31in this country and of course jeliz is
  • 34:34one of those is one of those centers.
  • 34:37And the therapeutic.
  • 34:38The approach in clinical issues
  • 34:40are outlined here.
  • 34:42Patients with hemophilia can either be
  • 34:44treated in what's known as on-demand
  • 34:46or episodic factor replacement,
  • 34:48which is the treatment with Ivy
  • 34:51Factor 8 or factor 9 to treat a
  • 34:54bleed or prophylactic therapy.
  • 34:56An inhibitor development,
  • 34:57that is an Allo antibody directed
  • 35:00against Factor 8 or less commonly,
  • 35:02factor 9 is a significant problem
  • 35:05for patients and may occur in 30 or
  • 35:0840% of individuals with hemophilia A
  • 35:10and makes treatment very difficult
  • 35:13and the goals of therapy are really
  • 35:15here to prevent
  • 35:16any bleeding. If possible,
  • 35:18prevent joint disease and optimize a
  • 35:21quality of life for these individuals.
  • 35:24And the infusion of factor 8 or
  • 35:25factor 9 by patients is traditionally
  • 35:27given at home intravenously.
  • 35:29Patients from a very young age learn to start
  • 35:32an Ivy and infuse factor 8 or factor 9,
  • 35:35but because of the short
  • 35:37half-life of these drugs,
  • 35:38about 12 hours for factor 8 and
  • 35:4018 to 24 hours for factor 9,
  • 35:42they need to be administered two to
  • 35:45three to sometimes four times per
  • 35:47week to keep the factor levels in a
  • 35:49range that will prevent bleeding.
  • 35:51So this is an onerous thing
  • 35:53for patients to do.
  • 35:54And any advances here would be
  • 35:58greatly appreciated by them.
  • 36:00So here's the obligatory coagulations
  • 36:02slide that I would like to show
  • 36:06to to reinforce and emphasize
  • 36:08the role that Factor 8 and factor
  • 36:119 having blood coagulation.
  • 36:14So what we're seeing here is the
  • 36:17tissue factor initiated pathway and
  • 36:20activation of factor 10 by tissue
  • 36:23factor 7A or activation by factor
  • 36:269 to 9 A by tissue factor 7A.
  • 36:29And 9A is also able to activate 9:50
  • 36:33A O2 pathways to get down to this
  • 36:36all important enzyme factor 10A,
  • 36:39and in this latter reaction factor
  • 36:418 serves as a cofactor for the
  • 36:44enzyme factor 9A.
  • 36:45To act on its substrate factor 10
  • 36:48and increases the rate of reaction
  • 36:51hundreds of 1000 fold when factor 8
  • 36:54is able to align the substrate and
  • 36:56enzyme on a phospholipid surface in
  • 36:59the correct in. In the correct fashion.
  • 37:03One other thing to mention about
  • 37:05Factor 8 before we get into some of
  • 37:08the details of the advances is that
  • 37:11factor 8 travels if you will in the
  • 37:13blood bound to von Willebrand factor.
  • 37:15Von Willebrand factor is seen here in
  • 37:18this linear structure at the bottom,
  • 37:20factor 8 is the yellow diagram above,
  • 37:23and the binding of factor 8 von
  • 37:25Willibrand factor enhances the
  • 37:27half life of factor 8 from about
  • 37:292 hours to about 12 hours.
  • 37:31So this is a very important interaction.
  • 37:34And just to point out here,
  • 37:36'cause this will become important
  • 37:38later is that the binding site
  • 37:40on von Willebrand factor is these
  • 37:42two protein domains,
  • 37:43designated D prime and D3,
  • 37:45and another important point is there
  • 37:47appears to be a large portion of the
  • 37:50factor 8 molecules termed the B domain,
  • 37:52which is not required for factor 8 function,
  • 37:55so you could remove that domain
  • 37:58and in fact factor 8 has a similar
  • 38:01activity than it does with that domain.
  • 38:04So the advances in care of hemophilia
  • 38:07really over the past five to six
  • 38:10years come into three different areas.
  • 38:12One is extended,
  • 38:13half-life factor concentrates,
  • 38:14allowing for patients to infuse
  • 38:16less frequently.
  • 38:17The development of non factor 8
  • 38:19or 9 therapeutics,
  • 38:20and then gene therapy and we'll
  • 38:24go through these individually
  • 38:26in the next 15 minutes or so.
  • 38:28So the extended Half-life products
  • 38:30have been produced by manipulating
  • 38:32the recombinant factor eight
  • 38:34or nine in a number of
  • 38:35different ways, many of which are familiar
  • 38:38to you by either adding polyethylene
  • 38:40glycol or conjugating the factor to the
  • 38:43FC portion of immunoglobulin or albumen,
  • 38:45to improve half-life, or,
  • 38:47in the case of factor 8,
  • 38:49to remove that B domain, which causes
  • 38:52a slight increase in the half life.
  • 38:55And there are now a number of products
  • 38:58that have been approved for use at
  • 39:00our extended Half-life products,
  • 39:02and I'll draw your attention
  • 39:04to the last three on this list.
  • 39:07These are factor 9 products which have
  • 39:09been manipulated by these methods,
  • 39:11seen here and the half life of these
  • 39:14products has been extended from 18 to
  • 39:1724 hours to upwards of 90 or 100 hours.
  • 39:20So this is allowed patients with factor 9
  • 39:23deficiency or hemophilia B to be treated.
  • 39:26Once a week,
  • 39:27once every 10 days and in some circumstances,
  • 39:31even once every two weeks.
  • 39:32So a significant advance for
  • 39:34people needing to give intravenous
  • 39:36therapy themselves at home.
  • 39:38The advances in hemophilia A with factor 8.
  • 39:41However,
  • 39:41a much more modest with this
  • 39:43type of manipulation,
  • 39:45and it turns out that the the
  • 39:47degradation in the catabolism and
  • 39:49clearance from the circulation of
  • 39:51factor 8 is much more linked to the
  • 39:54clearance of von Willebrand factor,
  • 39:56the protein that it's bound to.
  • 39:59So making modifications in the FAQ.
  • 40:00After 8 molecule has really had
  • 40:03minimal effect up until recently
  • 40:06on Factor 8 Half-life.
  • 40:08So an interesting construct has been devised,
  • 40:11and it's shown on the top panel here
  • 40:13and in this construct the D prime and
  • 40:16D3 regions of von Willebrand factor,
  • 40:19the binding region to factor 8,
  • 40:22is linked to an FC portion of an
  • 40:25immunoglobulin and linked to the
  • 40:27B domain less factor 8 molecule,
  • 40:29which also has linked on at
  • 40:32this hydrophilic polypeptide,
  • 40:33which also can extend the half life.
  • 40:36So this product has been called bib 001.
  • 40:39And was treated with.
  • 40:41Was used to treat a handful of
  • 40:43patients in a safety study,
  • 40:45and those results were were
  • 40:47reported in the New England Journal
  • 40:49of Medicine earlier this year,
  • 40:51and patients were either treated
  • 40:53at two different doses of this new
  • 40:56product and the factor a clearance
  • 40:58from the circulation was compared
  • 41:00to the typical factor 8 clearance
  • 41:02seen in the lighter blue bars here
  • 41:05and what you can see I think,
  • 41:07is that the half life of this newer product.
  • 41:11Is now about two days increased,
  • 41:13about five or six fold the half life
  • 41:15of the standard factor 8 product.
  • 41:18So this this product is now in
  • 41:20large scale clinical trials and I
  • 41:22think in the next year or two we
  • 41:24should have some more information,
  • 41:26and this may be an advanced
  • 41:29for for some of our patients.
  • 41:32So let me shift for a minute for
  • 41:34the to the non factor product for
  • 41:36the treatment of hemophilia and I
  • 41:38think their significant advance
  • 41:39has been made here and there are
  • 41:41three drugs that will talk about
  • 41:43will really focus primarily on this
  • 41:45first drug which is called EMAS
  • 41:48ISM AB. A nemesis Omab is a
  • 41:51bispecific monoclonal antibody.
  • 41:53That binds the factor 9 and factor 10,
  • 41:56so it simulates the activity of Factor 8.
  • 42:00Remember that factor 8 is able
  • 42:02to colocalize factor 9 and factor
  • 42:0510 on a phospholipid surface.
  • 42:07This antibody is able to bind factor
  • 42:109A and factor 10 in the circulation an
  • 42:14again simulate the activity of Factor 8.
  • 42:18So this drug is not exactly like Factor 8.
  • 42:21There are.
  • 42:22There are certain differences here.
  • 42:24It binds to factor 8 and nine
  • 42:27in the circulation,
  • 42:28not just on the phospholipid membrane.
  • 42:30It has different infinities
  • 42:32for the substrate and enzyme,
  • 42:34and whether or not that becomes an
  • 42:37issue for this drug will only know
  • 42:40as more experience is is accumulated.
  • 42:43But nonetheless,
  • 42:43this drug is really shown dramatic activity,
  • 42:46so this this is a study that was
  • 42:49published a few years ago in the
  • 42:52New England Journal of Medicine.
  • 42:54Here we had patients who have hemophilia
  • 42:57A with inhibitors to factor 8,
  • 42:59so a challenging group of patients to
  • 43:01treat were treated either with their
  • 43:04typical regimen of recombinant factor
  • 43:067A or factor 8, bypassing activity,
  • 43:08or with Emma system AB given by
  • 43:11subcutaneous injection once a week
  • 43:13and the annual bleeding rate.
  • 43:15Is been been described on this slide
  • 43:17here and you could see if we just look
  • 43:21at these blue histograms for a minute here.
  • 43:23The annualized bleeding rate in the
  • 43:26EMA system app Prophylaxis Group
  • 43:29was about five or six and it was
  • 43:32almost 30 in the standard of care.
  • 43:35Treatment of patients with
  • 43:37hemophilia A and inhibitors.
  • 43:39So a really significant
  • 43:41advantage for these individuals.
  • 43:43And then a second study was published
  • 43:45with looked at patients with hemophilia
  • 43:48A without inhibitors and these.
  • 43:50This was a randomized trial.
  • 43:52Patients were treated with one
  • 43:54of two doses of Emma's is a map
  • 43:56either given weekly or every other
  • 43:58week by subcutaneous injection,
  • 44:01compared with no prophylaxis.
  • 44:02About 100 patients in the trial,
  • 44:04and again the annual annualized
  • 44:06bleeding rate went from about
  • 44:0940 to about one or two.