"Health Outcomes Research: bridging emerging medical technologies and real-world cancer care" and "Gynecological Cancer: Translational Science and Pivotal Trials"
October 27, 2021Yale Cancer Center Grand Rounds | October 26, 2021
Presentations by: Dr. Michaela Dinan and Dr. Gloria Huang
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- 00:00Today we have two speakers and our
- 00:02first speaker is Michaela Dine-in,
- 00:05who's an associate professor
- 00:06Epidemiology and Co leader of the
- 00:09Yale Cancer Center Cancer Prevention
- 00:11and Control Research program.
- 00:13She joined us from Duke University last
- 00:15year and is a Health Sciences features
- 00:18researcher specializing in using
- 00:20epidemiological methodologies to study
- 00:22complex datasets with particular expertise
- 00:24and leveraging existing real-world
- 00:26datasets to examine cancer outcomes.
- 00:30Is also a leading researcher lean,
- 00:33and then I NCI funded study
- 00:36looking at health disparities
- 00:37in patients with kidney cancer.
- 00:39And so I think we'll hear
- 00:40about some of that today.
- 00:41So Michaela welcome and I
- 00:43have to have to unmute.
- 00:48Great, just pulling up my slides here.
- 00:53OK, looks like we're ready to rock and roll.
- 00:56Alright so thank you so much.
- 00:58Good afternoon everyone.
- 00:59I'm actually in Chicago right now and
- 01:02attending the Astro annual meeting.
- 01:04So technically it's still morning here,
- 01:07but either way I'm delighted to
- 01:09be speaking with you today so.
- 01:11Uhm, as was mentioned,
- 01:13I'm a health outcomes researcher by training
- 01:15and I can bucket my current research
- 01:17projects into three broad categories,
- 01:19including emerging technology in oncology,
- 01:21survivorship,
- 01:22and patient outcomes and molecular
- 01:25oncology outcomes research.
- 01:27But the running theme throughout
- 01:28these example projects is leveraging
- 01:30real-world data to answer questions
- 01:32about dissemination outcomes,
- 01:33costs and disparities,
- 01:34and how I think about answering
- 01:37these types of questions using
- 01:39real-world data resources.
- 01:40So what is the value added?
- 01:42Of health outcomes research and while
- 01:45RCT's are considered higher up in
- 01:47the food chain than cohort and case
- 01:49control studies in the traditional
- 01:51levels of evidence pyramid shown here,
- 01:53there are many types of questions
- 01:55that are not feasible to examine
- 01:57in the context of a trial,
- 01:58but that are feasible within health outcomes,
- 02:01study methodologies,
- 02:02and here are some examples of the
- 02:04types of questions we can answer about
- 02:07emerging diagnostics and therapeutics
- 02:09using real-world data resources.
- 02:11Randomized trials are required.
- 02:13Approval of a novel therapeutic agent,
- 02:15but approvals of diagnostics and
- 02:17other biomarkers are more complex
- 02:19and not always evaluated by ARC.
- 02:21Prior to their approval or
- 02:23coverage by insurance.
- 02:25However, even for therapeutic agents,
- 02:27initial approvals often arise from
- 02:30RCT comparisons with another single
- 02:32treatment which may be outdated
- 02:34by the time approvals received.
- 02:36In reality,
- 02:37more and more cancers.
- 02:39Have increasing numbers of possible
- 02:41treatment options and combinations
- 02:42and it's just not feasible to
- 02:44examine all possible treatment
- 02:45strategies in a head-to-head fashion,
- 02:47and oftentimes there's honestly
- 02:49not adequate financial incentives
- 02:51to support such trials.
- 02:52We also know that patients who participate
- 02:55in RCT's differ systematically from
- 02:57the average real world patient,
- 02:59where life and treatment is just
- 03:01a lot messier as compared to the
- 03:03highly curated patient population
- 03:05and controlled environment of an RCT.
- 03:06And this is an example study,
- 03:08not mine of a patient of patients
- 03:10with primary CNS lymphoma treated at
- 03:12the same institution who received the
- 03:15same treatment both on and off protocol,
- 03:17and the investigators showed that
- 03:19patients who were treated in the real
- 03:21world practice meaning off protocol.
- 03:23Or older,
- 03:23sicker had worse disease and had
- 03:25dramatically worse survival than
- 03:27the patients who were treated
- 03:28on the clinical trial.
- 03:30So here I have presented an
- 03:31overview of many different types
- 03:33of data that can be used to conduct
- 03:35real-world health outcomes research,
- 03:37and what I really want to drive home
- 03:38is that it's important to remind folks
- 03:40that there is no perfect single data set.
- 03:42But by leveraging the major strengths
- 03:44and weaknesses of different data,
- 03:46different types of datasets
- 03:47as they currently exist,
- 03:49or improving upon them,
- 03:50we can answer some pretty cool questions.
- 03:53So this is an example of
- 03:54a past fully completed
- 03:55study that I conducted in breast cancer,
- 03:57and this was a five year study
- 03:59that was funded by AHRQ.
- 04:00Where we were looking at adoption,
- 04:01chemotherapy, use and costs
- 04:03associated with Oncotype DX,
- 04:04in brand and breast cancer and a
- 04:07lot has changed in the subsequent
- 04:09years since this work was completed,
- 04:10but at the time in CC and guidelines.
- 04:12Recommended consideration of
- 04:13chemotherapy and all of early stage
- 04:16disease patients with primary tumors
- 04:18greater than one centimeter node.
- 04:19Negative ER positive disease,
- 04:21and patients characteristics that
- 04:22were consistent with chemotherapy.
- 04:24Candidacy and uncle Type DX was still
- 04:26relatively new to the scene at this time,
- 04:28and no one had looked at its
- 04:29use in real world population.
- 04:30Case studies.
- 04:31So let's consider the gaps in
- 04:33knowledge that existed at the time,
- 04:35so we know that randomized trials
- 04:37had confirmed the prognostic and
- 04:39predictive value of Oncotype DX,
- 04:40and there had been some single
- 04:42institution series that suggested
- 04:44that decreased chemotherapy was
- 04:45associated with archetype DX use.
- 04:48However,
- 04:48there hadn't been any nationally
- 04:50representative studies conducted.
- 04:51There were still questions about whether
- 04:53or not the adoption and diffusion of
- 04:56Archetype DX was being done equitably
- 04:57across different subgroups in the population,
- 05:00and there are questions about
- 05:01the impact that.
- 05:02Architect DX was having on chemotherapy,
- 05:04utilizations and costs.
- 05:04In the real world.
- 05:06And finally,
- 05:06there was limited data on patients
- 05:08who are 65 years and older.
- 05:09Because these were underrepresented
- 05:11in any of the child data.
- 05:14So in thinking about the types of
- 05:16questions about architects that
- 05:17I was interested in looking at,
- 05:19I chose to use the seer Medicare linked data,
- 05:21which combines the detailed clinical
- 05:23pathologic data from this year
- 05:25registry with the LOGITUDINAL
- 05:27claims from the Medicare data.
- 05:29So we use the Medicare claims portion
- 05:31of the SEER Medicare data to detect the
- 05:33use of Oncotype DX in our study population.
- 05:36Now,
- 05:36there was no specific CPT procedure
- 05:39code for Oncotype DX.
- 05:40In fact,
- 05:41the test is build using the CPT code 84999.
- 05:45Defined as unlisted chemistry procedure.
- 05:48However,
- 05:48using the knowledge that all Oncotype
- 05:50DX tests are processed by single
- 05:53provider in a single location,
- 05:55we were able to use an algorithm to
- 05:57detect the archetypes DX code in the
- 05:59Medicare claims data and confirm
- 06:01that all tests were performed by the
- 06:03same single provider from the same
- 06:05single location with 95% of these
- 06:08tests having identical payment of $3414.
- 06:11So this was considered a very
- 06:13creative approach at the time.
- 06:14Again, this was a while ago,
- 06:15and.
- 06:16And I believe ultimately,
- 06:17this creative approach is what
- 06:19got the study funded,
- 06:20but I've seen this approach recreated
- 06:22for other diagnostics many times signs.
- 06:23And this is just a side note to suggest
- 06:25that if you can think of novel ways to use
- 06:27data that have been around a long time,
- 06:29you can still make real
- 06:30contributions to the field.
- 06:31Interestingly,
- 06:32the Seer Medicare data now actually
- 06:34includes the Oncotype DX rescored
- 06:36data in the data set itself,
- 06:38but back then this data was
- 06:40not publicly available,
- 06:41so we were only able to detect
- 06:43receipt of testing at the time,
- 06:44but did not know what the test results.
- 06:46Actually were so we were able to show
- 06:48that archetype decks used in the real
- 06:50world increased over the study period,
- 06:52particularly with in the younger age
- 06:54group in the SEER Medicare data.
- 06:57And since the use of Oncotype DX was
- 06:58supposed to inform whether or not
- 07:00a patient received chemotherapy,
- 07:01we wanted to see how often the the
- 07:03use of diagnostic or sorry we wanted
- 07:05to see how the use of the diagnostic
- 07:08was impacting the use of chemotherapy.
- 07:10And here we can see that in patients
- 07:12who would traditionally be considered
- 07:13high risk due to their tumor size or stage,
- 07:15that chemotherapy.
- 07:16He's appeared to decline following
- 07:19the introduction of architect Deacs.
- 07:21So in multivariable analysis,
- 07:22we did not see an overall association
- 07:24between receipt of Archetype DX
- 07:26and receipt of chemo.
- 07:28However,
- 07:28we did see that patients with
- 07:30clinical markers of more aggressive
- 07:32disease such as tumor size,
- 07:34grade and NCCN,
- 07:35defined clinical pathologic risk had an
- 07:38increased likelihood of receiving chemo.
- 07:40The most nuanced and interesting finding,
- 07:43however,
- 07:43was that when we looked at the
- 07:46interaction between receipt of Oncotype
- 07:48DX and NCCN defined clinical risk,
- 07:50we saw that.
- 07:52Receipt of Oncotype DX was associated
- 07:54with decreased chemo in NCCN
- 07:56high risk patients and increased
- 07:59chemo and NCCN low risk patients.
- 08:01So at the time it was a foregone
- 08:03conclusion by many that the use of
- 08:05Oncotype DX would not only be cost effective,
- 08:08but also costs saving.
- 08:10However,
- 08:10there was a meta analysis of the
- 08:13ability of AC type DX to reduce costs,
- 08:15and it revealed that there was
- 08:17a wide range in the perceived
- 08:19benefit cost benefits of archetype
- 08:21deacs according to weather.
- 08:22A study had been funded by Genomic Health.
- 08:24The sponsor, which is those studies,
- 08:27are shown in blue on this graph.
- 08:29As opposed to other funding sources.
- 08:31So interestingly,
- 08:32the five studies that suggested
- 08:35Archetype DX was cost saving were
- 08:37all funded by genomic health.
- 08:39Ultimately,
- 08:39however,
- 08:40these were all modeling studies and we
- 08:42wanted to try to look at real-world data,
- 08:44so this is important,
- 08:45because when you look closely
- 08:46at these modeling studies,
- 08:4818 of them assume that T stage
- 08:51and tumor grade had no impact
- 08:53on chemotherapy decisions,
- 08:54which we clearly saw in the data
- 08:56I showed previously was not the
- 08:57case in our real-world data,
- 08:59and only five studies.
- 09:00Accounting for the fact that
- 09:01architect at DX testing might
- 09:03actually increase chemotherapy use
- 09:05in clinically low risk patients.
- 09:06So what did we find when we looked
- 09:08at costs associated with Oncotype
- 09:10DX in the real world setting?
- 09:12So the main takeaway lesson was that
- 09:14the impact of these tests depends
- 09:16strongly on the patient population
- 09:18and pretest likelihood that a patient
- 09:20was going to get chemotherapy anyway.
- 09:23So in patients who were
- 09:24planned for chemo or high
- 09:25risk patients, Oncotype DX can
- 09:28can reduce costs, chemo and costs.
- 09:31However, for lower intermediate patients,
- 09:33there is no evidence that Oncotype
- 09:35DX will reduce costs in actuality.
- 09:38And it's it's use is actually
- 09:40associated with higher non cancer costs,
- 09:42likely due to just general
- 09:45overall increased health care
- 09:46utilization in this population.
- 09:48And then finally using these same data,
- 09:50we were able to look at questions
- 09:52regarding what physician or provider
- 09:54characteristics were associated
- 09:55with the use of archetype DX and
- 09:58what we saw was that about 70% of
- 10:00patients who were receiving Oncotype
- 10:01DX had the Oncotype DX test ordered
- 10:04by their medical oncologists.
- 10:05But we were also able to look at
- 10:08factors physician characteristics
- 10:09that were associated with increased
- 10:11likelihood of receiving Oncotype
- 10:13DX and these were having been seen
- 10:14by a surgical oncologist having
- 10:16been seen having had your surgery
- 10:18at an academic Medical Center.
- 10:20Having been treated by a female medical
- 10:23oncologist and having been treated by
- 10:25a medical oncologist who was within
- 10:27five years of finishing their training.
- 10:29So I'm going to move on to my next example,
- 10:31which is from my current NCI funded
- 10:33R 01 where we are examining access
- 10:35and adherence to oral anti cancer
- 10:37agents and drivers of real world
- 10:40disparities in patients with metastatic
- 10:41renal cell carcinoma.
- 10:43As is the case in many cancers,
- 10:46the number of available therapies for kidney
- 10:49cancers have expanded dramatically over
- 10:51the past decade and a half and interestingly,
- 10:54ten of these therapy,
- 10:55ten of the therapies approved
- 10:56between 2005 and 2016.
- 10:58Of those 10.
- 11:00Seven of them were oral agents and we
- 11:02can use real world data to look at
- 11:04issues pertaining to patients ability
- 11:06to access and then stay adherent to
- 11:09these potentially lifesaving drugs.
- 11:10So once again,
- 11:12let's take a look at what what was
- 11:14known versus the knowledge gaps
- 11:15surrounding a a use in patients
- 11:17with kidney cancer at the time.
- 11:19So we know we knew that oral anti
- 11:21cancer agents and we know that they
- 11:23pose unique challenges to delivery and
- 11:25also there was clinical trial data
- 11:27that showed increased progression,
- 11:29free survival and overall survival
- 11:31for several different ways and
- 11:33typically always have shown to have a
- 11:36more favorable toxicity profile than
- 11:39traditional cytotoxic chemotherapies.
- 11:41However their continued.
- 11:42To be gaps in the knowledge
- 11:44around whether outcomes,
- 11:45what outcomes and toxicities looked like
- 11:48in older and comorbid patient populations,
- 11:50there were few head-to-head OA
- 11:53comparisons and there were additional
- 11:55unknown adherence barriers as well
- 11:57as impacts of out of cost out of
- 12:00pocket costs on adherence and how
- 12:02the impact of non what the impact
- 12:05of nonadherence had on outcomes
- 12:07for these patients.
- 12:08So for this study,
- 12:09we once again decided to leverage
- 12:10the strengths of the Seer,
- 12:12Medicare and the Medicare claims data,
- 12:14and in this case, Medicare Part D,
- 12:16which is includes prescription drug claims,
- 12:18was crucial for this study.
- 12:20But we also added an additional data
- 12:22source called the North Carolina Cypher
- 12:24data now North Carolina Cypher is an
- 12:26example of a state cancer registry
- 12:28that's been linked to claims data,
- 12:29and in this case it's the North
- 12:31Carolina Cancer Registry data that has
- 12:34been linked to Medicare, Medicaid,
- 12:35and Blue Cross Blue Shield data.
- 12:37So you can see here.
- 12:39That strengths include the same
- 12:40detailed clinical pathologic data that's
- 12:42contained in the SEER Medicare data set.
- 12:44But for patients of all ages,
- 12:46we receive Medicare is limited to
- 12:48those who are 65 years and older and
- 12:50with unsafe Cypher has patients with
- 12:52different types of insurance coverage.
- 12:54Where senior Medicare is limited,
- 12:55obviously, to just the Medicare population.
- 12:59So here I show the seer Medicare rates
- 13:01of utilization of oral anti cancer
- 13:03agents in patients with renal cell
- 13:05carcinoma and we also reproduce this
- 13:07data in the North Carolina cypher
- 13:09data where we saw highly similar
- 13:12trajectories and rates of OH agents.
- 13:14We found that roughly 1/3 of patients
- 13:16were receiving an oral anti cancer
- 13:17agent at all within a year of being
- 13:19diagnosed with advanced disease and
- 13:21that the majority of these patients
- 13:23were initially treated with sunitinib.
- 13:25A multivariable analysis of CR Medicare
- 13:28factors associated with utilization
- 13:29did not show evidence of differential
- 13:32receipt of oral therapies by patient race,
- 13:34ethnicity, or socioeconomic status.
- 13:36However,
- 13:37we did see decreased utilization
- 13:39in patients who were unmarried,
- 13:40older, or that lived in the South.
- 13:43So one of the strengths of the
- 13:45North Carolina cipher data is that
- 13:46it includes adults of all ages
- 13:47as well as private insurance.
- 13:49As I've already mentioned before,
- 13:51we adjusted for age.
- 13:52There were large differences in utilization
- 13:54by private versus Medicare insurance.
- 13:57However, in multivariable adjusted analysis,
- 13:59we saw that there was no difference
- 14:01in the utilization by insurance.
- 14:02Instead,
- 14:03this was likely driven entirely by age,
- 14:05with older patients being less
- 14:06likely to receive therapy.
- 14:08We also observed that frailty and
- 14:10having multiple kohram abilities
- 14:12were both associated with.
- 14:14Decrease to a utilization.
- 14:15And lastly we looked at patients with
- 14:17all stages of kidney cancer and saw
- 14:20that patients who were diagnosed with
- 14:22stage one disease but that experienced
- 14:24progression to metastatic disease were
- 14:26less likely to utilize Inoue within
- 14:28a year of metastatic disease diagnosis,
- 14:31and this is likely due to slower
- 14:33growing disease with a less urgent
- 14:36need to treat immediately.
- 14:37Come for oral anti cancer agents.
- 14:39However,
- 14:39it's important to remember that
- 14:41in addition to utilization,
- 14:42there's also the concept of adherence
- 14:45or the percentage of time a patient
- 14:47was taking their anti cancer drug.
- 14:49We know that in general,
- 14:50adherence to oral medications is often
- 14:53far from 100% due to any number of
- 14:55reasons such as side effects or costs.
- 14:58We looked at adherence in both the
- 15:00Seer Medicare and the Cypher cohorts
- 15:02and we observed slightly higher
- 15:04rates of adherence within the North
- 15:07Carolina cypher patient population.
- 15:09As compared to the CR Medicare cohort,
- 15:11we think this is largely due to the
- 15:13difference in age between the cohorts.
- 15:15As both cohorts showed evidence
- 15:16of either older patients or
- 15:18those with Medicare insurance
- 15:20having lower adherence rates.
- 15:21North Carolina Cypher was somewhat limited
- 15:23in power due to the smaller sample sizes,
- 15:26and it did not examine adherence
- 15:28by by different agents in
- 15:30the multivariable analysis.
- 15:31However, there was evidence of substantially
- 15:34lower adherence to soften it in both cohorts.
- 15:36We saw a strong impact of poverty on
- 15:39adherence within the SEER Medicare data,
- 15:41but not the North Carolina cypher data.
- 15:43And although it is unclear why,
- 15:44we hypothesize that older patients
- 15:46living on a fixed income may be more
- 15:50sensitive to financial stressors.
- 15:51Consistent with this,
- 15:52we saw that OAS,
- 15:54with out of pocket costs over $200,
- 15:57were associated with decreased adherence
- 15:59within the SEER Medicare cohort.
- 16:02So these real world datasets also
- 16:03allow you to look at survival.
- 16:05And here is a three month landmark survival
- 16:08curve of all 'cause mortality for a pass.
- 16:10Open abusers by whether
- 16:12they received the trial.
- 16:13Recommended dose of 800 milligrams of
- 16:16pheasant per day in the three months
- 16:19following a a initiation for the
- 16:21patients getting the prescribed dose
- 16:23for the first three months of treatment,
- 16:24we saw superior outcomes and survival
- 16:26was assessed beginning at three
- 16:28months post postoperative initiation.
- 16:30In order to avoid introducing.
- 16:32Immortal time bias in the analysis.
- 16:35So I think it's incredibly critical to
- 16:37acknowledge that a key limitation of
- 16:38all these data sets is that the patient
- 16:41perspective and the patient voice is missing.
- 16:43I also feel it's incredibly important to
- 16:45do our best to include this perspective,
- 16:47even when working exclusively
- 16:49with secondary data,
- 16:50and one way that we address this
- 16:52for the renal cell carcinoma.
- 16:53A study was by partnering with patient
- 16:56advocacy groups who helped us identify
- 16:58questions that were most important to them.
- 17:01So,
- 17:01for example,
- 17:02these patients and their families,
- 17:04they wanted to know how often providers
- 17:05were switching their medications.
- 17:07Which is something we hadn't
- 17:08planned on examining,
- 17:09but we were absolutely capable of
- 17:11examining in our real-world data set.
- 17:13So we looked at the request of the patients,
- 17:16and we found that while only 6%
- 17:18of RCC patients switched aways
- 17:20within 90 days of diagnosis,
- 17:23that number increased to 20% of RCC patients,
- 17:26switched to their always
- 17:27within one year of diagnosis.
- 17:30So now I'd like to move on to an example
- 17:32of current future work that I'm doing.
- 17:34So I was recently awarded in American
- 17:36Cancer Society 5 year Research Scholar
- 17:38Grant and this grant will be developing
- 17:40algorithms to inform risk stratified
- 17:42care for long term cancer survivors.
- 17:44So this figure was modified from a
- 17:46paper by Effinger and McCabe which
- 17:48shows at the top the current model,
- 17:51care for cancer survivors,
- 17:52which is more of a one size
- 17:54fits all approach.
- 17:55Once the patient is diagnosed
- 17:57with their cancer,
- 17:58their care is transferred to an oncologist
- 18:00for an indefinite period of time.
- 18:02Little to no ongoing participation
- 18:04from the PCP.
- 18:05The bottom shows the proposed
- 18:07shared practice model care based
- 18:09on risk stratification,
- 18:10which helps to inform
- 18:11the point in time when a
- 18:12cancer survivors care might be
- 18:14appropriately transferred back to you or
- 18:16shared with the primary care physician
- 18:18with the idea being that the new
- 18:20model represents both a more efficient
- 18:22and better quality model of care.
- 18:24So this figure is from a study
- 18:26where McConnell and colleagues used
- 18:28National Cancer Registry data from
- 18:29the UK and Northern Ireland tourist
- 18:32stratify patients with twenty of
- 18:33the most common cancers into three
- 18:36groups based on overall survival at
- 18:38one in five years from diagnosis.
- 18:40And this is just to demonstrate that
- 18:43crude risk categorization is possible
- 18:44and is currently being used to
- 18:46inform treatment in other countries.
- 18:48So the authors noted that important
- 18:49caveats of this analysis included
- 18:51the absence of treatment information
- 18:52which was not available, and.
- 18:54That their data was unable to assess
- 18:56treatment related complications,
- 18:58both of which I propose to improve
- 19:00upon in our models for this ACS grant.
- 19:02So once again,
- 19:03we return to existing currently
- 19:05existing knowledge gaps,
- 19:07which real-world data and outcome
- 19:08methodologies can help to address,
- 19:10so we know that Uncle logic and
- 19:12noncaloric risks vary substantially by
- 19:14cancer stage and treatment and cancer type.
- 19:17We also know that cancer site
- 19:19and stage alone can provide broad
- 19:21uncle logic risk categories.
- 19:22However, non uncle logic disease.
- 19:26Risks have been defined qualitatively,
- 19:28but not quantitatively,
- 19:30and cancer survivors.
- 19:32And we do not know how Uncle Logic
- 19:35and on non uncle logic risks compare
- 19:38or compete within cancer survivors.
- 19:41And there's also a need to estimate
- 19:44these risks at the point of care.
- 19:46So we will once again use this year
- 19:48Medicare and the North Carolina cipher data.
- 19:50But the new data set addition to
- 19:52this project will be incorporating
- 19:54data from the Veterans Health system
- 19:56and the overarching plan is to use
- 19:59inputs that are available from
- 20:00all three of these datasets,
- 20:02such as cancer or specific variables
- 20:04like site and stage treatment.
- 20:06Personal characteristics like age
- 20:08and gender and race and ethnicity,
- 20:10and then aging related concerns like
- 20:13comorbidities and functional status
- 20:15to develop risk prediction models.
- 20:17In breast, breast,
- 20:18prostate and colorectal cancers.
- 20:20To predict both ankle logic and
- 20:22non oncologic events,
- 20:23for which long term cancer
- 20:25survivors are at increased risk.
- 20:27So these risk algorithm algorithms will
- 20:29separate long term cancer survivors into low,
- 20:31medium and high risk categories to
- 20:34help inform discussions between
- 20:35survivors and physicians about their
- 20:37optimal care going forward and
- 20:39ultimately the final product will be
- 20:41a freely available web calculator in
- 20:43which patients and or physicians can
- 20:45input their individual information
- 20:47to help categorize their individual
- 20:49risk and inform pathways of care.
- 20:52So next on the horizon for me is
- 20:54tackling additional unmet needs of
- 20:56traditional health services research
- 20:58through novel data linkages and I'm
- 21:00developing studies that will include
- 21:02actual physical tumor samples so
- 21:04that we can run genomic sequence
- 21:06analysis on them and then link that
- 21:08additional biologic information
- 21:10to both tumor registry data and
- 21:13longitudinal claims data.
- 21:14So there are a couple existing
- 21:16resources which
- 21:16I have already tapped into to get this
- 21:18work off the ground and the first of which
- 21:21is the SEER residual tissue repository,
- 21:22which is a program that used to be funded
- 21:25by NCI to maintain physical tumor samples
- 21:27for patients contained in the SEER
- 21:30registry for three participating sites,
- 21:32which were Iowa, Hawaii and Los Angeles, CA.
- 21:34So like I said, the program
- 21:38consists of pathologic specimens.
- 21:40These are old specimens were
- 21:42collected between 1992 and 2006.
- 21:44I've already.
- 21:45Mention the participating see registries,
- 21:47but they do allow the ability to
- 21:50physically analyze tumor samples and So
- 21:52what I did was we recently completed a
- 21:55proof of concept study on a very small
- 21:58breast cancer cohort to demonstrate
- 22:00the process for combining the sear,
- 22:02the Medicare,
- 22:03and the genomic or biologic data obtained
- 22:05from running gene expression analysis
- 22:07on the tumor samples themselves.
- 22:09So unfortunately,
- 22:10LA did not participate in this pilot study
- 22:12due to an inability to procure large enough.
- 22:15Funds to cover their participation
- 22:16costs and this left us with two
- 22:19very distinct and racially and
- 22:21ethnically homogeneous populations
- 22:22which were not was not ideal.
- 22:24We would have liked it to have
- 22:25been much more representative,
- 22:26but it did allow us to proceed with the
- 22:29proof of concept study and here is a brief
- 22:32summary of some of our major findings,
- 22:34so this publication is in press and
- 22:36will be published in two days in JAMA
- 22:38Network and I'm happy to share that
- 22:39publication with folks to go through
- 22:41in more detail once it's published.
- 22:43But you can see that our major findings.
- 22:46Really show how we were able to
- 22:48leverage the different aspects of
- 22:50these three different data linkages.
- 22:52The three different datasets that
- 22:53we linked together so we were able
- 22:55to show from the Medicare claims
- 22:57data that symptomatic detection of
- 22:58breast cancer was associated with
- 23:00a higher mortality hazards ratio
- 23:02as from the SEER registry data.
- 23:04We were able to show that.
- 23:07Low levels of high school graduation
- 23:09rates were associated with a higher
- 23:11mortality mortality hazard ratio and
- 23:13then from the tumor samples and the
- 23:15genetic analysis that we conducted on these,
- 23:18we were able to show that androgen
- 23:20receptor macrophage set of toxicity and T.
- 23:22Rex signaling were all associated
- 23:24with reduced mortality.
- 23:25But the key thing that I want to
- 23:27highlight here is that factors
- 23:29related to socioeconomic status and
- 23:31screening access remained associated
- 23:33with mortality even after adjusting
- 23:34for clinical and genomic factors.
- 23:38So what does the future look like
- 23:40for this work?
- 23:40Well,
- 23:41I'm getting ready to submit a
- 23:42narrow one which would leverage the
- 23:45sear virtual tissue repository and
- 23:47proposes the first in kind linkage
- 23:48ever of the tumor samples with ceron,
- 23:51Medicare longitudinal claims.
- 23:53So the server consists of
- 23:55seven participating.
- 23:56See registry, so we're up to 7 from 3,
- 23:59and the pathologic specimen location
- 24:01is known for the most recent 10 years.
- 24:04So this is, this is the the oldest.
- 24:06The tissue samples are ten years old.
- 24:09But the collection is ongoing,
- 24:10so these are recent tissues.
- 24:12And once again we must physically
- 24:13request and fund the acquisition
- 24:15of the pathologic specimens from
- 24:17the pathology labs storing them.
- 24:18But what are we proposing to do? So?
- 24:20We're calling this a retro genomic approach,
- 24:23which we are defining as a combination
- 24:25of population level cohort studies
- 24:27followed by retrospective retrospective
- 24:29selection of patient cases in
- 24:32which to pursue genomic analysis,
- 24:33and this allows us to bypass a common
- 24:35weakness of traditional trials where
- 24:37patients are assigned to specific.
- 24:39Groups and then we wait to see what
- 24:41outcomes they have and this approach
- 24:43we can use the Medicare claims data
- 24:45to cherry pick specific outcomes of
- 24:47interest and then go and pull the tumor
- 24:49samples for the patients who experience
- 24:51these outcomes in the real world
- 24:53and study which treatment patterns,
- 24:55SES factors,
- 24:56or clinical pathologic characteristics
- 24:58appear to be driving those outcomes.
- 25:00And in the case of RRCC proposal,
- 25:02that we're getting ready to
- 25:04submit in February, February,
- 25:05we're going to look at two rare
- 25:07events experienced by patients
- 25:08related to amino therapy.
- 25:10Namely,
- 25:10severe IO toxicities and durable responders,
- 25:13so we're calling this project
- 25:15the virtual siert issue,
- 25:16registry Genomics and Medicare cohort,
- 25:18or a Verge cohort.
- 25:19And as I mentioned,
- 25:20our first application to go in
- 25:22will be in renal cell carcinoma
- 25:23since this study will be following
- 25:25on the heels of my current R 01,
- 25:27but our intention always has been and
- 25:28remains to have several different bridge
- 25:30cohorts across different disease sites.
- 25:32Answering all types of
- 25:34different clinical questions.
- 25:35So in summary,
- 25:36there are many questions relevant
- 25:38to cancer care that can be
- 25:40informed and enhanced by real
- 25:41World Health services research.
- 25:43Many questions cannot be feasibly or
- 25:46ethically addressed by clinical trials alone,
- 25:49and novel linkages may pave
- 25:50the way to novel opportunities
- 25:52in health services research.
- 25:53There are several datasets that
- 25:55are available for research in
- 25:57real world outcomes data and
- 25:59each data has its own strengths,
- 26:01weaknesses,
- 26:02and nuances that you need to know how
- 26:04to work with in order to get the best.
- 26:06And most accurate data and then
- 26:08the incorporation of genomics
- 26:09and biology into health service
- 26:11research is on the horizon.
- 26:13With that,
- 26:13I want to thank the team members
- 26:15who participated in all the various
- 26:16studies that I that I presented today.
- 26:18All of the work I do is team based
- 26:20science and I couldn't do it without
- 26:22the clinical collaborators and the
- 26:24support staff who are helping me with
- 26:25this work. Thank you for your time.
- 26:29Thank you Michaela.
- 26:30Very interesting work.
- 26:32If there are any questions, I I guess
- 26:34what we do is we type them into the chat.
- 26:38While we're waiting now to question.
- 26:40I I thought the most interesting thing
- 26:43he showed was the effect of ZIP code.
- 26:47The five fold increase in mortality.
- 26:49Yes, 'cause of course in within
- 26:51the ZIP code there are many people.
- 26:52There's a range of educational levels,
- 26:55so if you if you just actually broke it down.
- 26:59Are you able to break it down by actual,
- 27:01whether or not a patient
- 27:02has graduated or not?
- 27:03'cause I would assume then that
- 27:05difference would be much greater.
- 27:06Yeah, I mean,
- 27:07so obviously that would be ideal.
- 27:09That's just that's just a limitation
- 27:10of this year Medicare data,
- 27:11so the the SES data is in this
- 27:15available in their Medicare data,
- 27:17and I could talk a whole another
- 27:18half hour about this.
- 27:19Is zipcode level information,
- 27:21so it's not ideal,
- 27:22but it does give you a sense of you.
- 27:24You get zipcode level information
- 27:26about high school graduation,
- 27:27zipcode level, information about poverty.
- 27:29Uhm, about, uh,
- 27:32like the racial or ethnic makeup of
- 27:35a neighborhood somebody lives in.
- 27:37So obviously it's a proxy.
- 27:38It's not ideal,
- 27:39but it's it's better than what's
- 27:40in a lot of other datasets,
- 27:42so it's still
- 27:43despite those very very striking difference.
- 27:46We have a question from Laos.
- 27:48Yes, Titan, congratulations
- 27:50is clearly very exciting.
- 27:51What you described I,
- 27:52I wonder who is your year
- 27:54collaborator Co investigator for the
- 27:56genomic analysts piece of Euro one who
- 28:00will actually do the the sequencing
- 28:02and data analysts and
- 28:03linking to the clinical data.
- 28:04Yeah, so we're still working
- 28:05through the details of that,
- 28:06but we've been talking to all the
- 28:08various cores and thinking about
- 28:10exactly what what we want to do
- 28:12in terms of the genomic analysis.
- 28:15Obviously there's a couple things
- 28:17that are going to weigh in.
- 28:18This is a big study.
- 28:19It like I said, it's going to involve.
- 28:21It's all ecipes from all of the six
- 28:23registries I mentioned are all on board.
- 28:26We're going to have,
- 28:27so that'll be six sites,
- 28:29and so a lot of this unfortunately
- 28:31is gonna be driven by what we
- 28:33can afford in terms of, you know.
- 28:34So we're going to start with a
- 28:36very focused analysis and then
- 28:37from there you know.
- 28:38I'm hoping to build on that with
- 28:40either administrative supplements
- 28:41or other funding mechanisms to
- 28:43build out and expand on that,
- 28:44so that's still that that specific pieces
- 28:46build still being in development right now,
- 28:48but we're.
- 28:49Talking with all the Yale course.
- 28:51There's a lot to follow up
- 28:53with you because you know,
- 28:54I I couldn't write the Yale Genetics
- 28:55Genomics program and you may know
- 28:57that we have a similar large
- 28:58initiative that's run by like Murray.
- 29:01The generations project,
- 29:03and I think there is a lot of synergy
- 29:04that you could you could leverage.
- 29:06Yeah, it'd be great to talk,
- 29:07and we're still we're still
- 29:08developing that specific piece.
- 29:09I would love to talk about it more.
- 29:12Thanks Flash any other questions or comments?
- 29:19How the work is obviously critically
- 29:22dependent on how good the datasets are.
- 29:26Which you have not a lot of control over
- 29:28other than select which ones to use.
- 29:29I mean for example other VA.
- 29:32How does that compare to see?
- 29:33Or how does that compare to Medicare?
- 29:34Or are there systematic differences?
- 29:37Yeah, so great question.
- 29:39Again, I have a whole other talk just
- 29:42talking specifically about these.
- 29:44Uhm, so you know it.
- 29:46It's all about like I said,
- 29:47like knowing the datasets well knowing
- 29:48what their strengths or weaknesses are
- 29:50and knowing how to leverage them so
- 29:52specifically for the wrist ratification
- 29:53grant that I'm talking about where
- 29:54we're going to be using serum,
- 29:55Medicare cipher and the VA data,
- 29:57we're specifically focusing on the
- 29:59variables of interest on things
- 30:00that we know we can get out of.
- 30:02Each of those three datasets, right?
- 30:03So because we want to be able to
- 30:05like develop and then validate
- 30:07the risk prediction algorithms.
- 30:08I mean, I, I said it from the beginning.
- 30:10There's no perfect data set.
- 30:11There are things that are
- 30:12really strong about this year.
- 30:13Medicare data.
- 30:14It is probably the most widely used
- 30:17real-world data set for oncology.
- 30:18Specific research is an
- 30:20incredibly strong data set,
- 30:21but the two big limitations that
- 30:23everyone can tell you right off the
- 30:24top of their head is that it's limited
- 30:26to those who are 65 years and older.
- 30:29It's Medicare only,
- 30:29and then the other limitation is
- 30:31there's a pretty significant lag
- 30:32with the data because it relies on a
- 30:35linkage that's done every two years at NCI,
- 30:36so it's usually about three
- 30:38to four years behind, right?
- 30:39So if you're trying to look
- 30:41at emerging technologies,
- 30:41it can be a little bit of a nuisance.
- 30:43So from the current R 01.
- 30:45Using Seer Medicare data.
- 30:48Actually getting ready to purchase
- 30:49a cohort of the Medicare 100% data.
- 30:51So the limitation to that data set
- 30:53is going to be that it doesn't have
- 30:55the seer registry information,
- 30:56so we're not going to know things
- 30:59like stage or like other clinical
- 31:01pathologic variables.
- 31:02However,
- 31:02the whole you know we're trying
- 31:04to fill in the gaps that we know
- 31:06exist from the previous work that
- 31:07we did with the other datasets,
- 31:09which is the lag that we saw in in this era.
- 31:11Medicare data and the North
- 31:13Carolina cipher data,
- 31:13so we can't look at O as in the
- 31:15context of current immunotherapy,
- 31:17which we know is playing a huge role.
- 31:19In a renal cell carcinoma
- 31:21treatment right now,
- 31:22so the Medicare claims data,
- 31:24while it will have different gaps,
- 31:26is going to allow us to look at other
- 31:29questions alongside of what we've
- 31:30already done to look at how aydelette
- 31:33OAA utilization and adherence looks
- 31:36in the context of amino therapies.
- 31:39So it's just about figuring out,
- 31:40like it's just about acknowledging
- 31:42where the limitations exist,
- 31:43and then figuring out a way to
- 31:45kind of fill that information in.
- 31:48Terrific,
- 31:48thank you very much.
- 31:49Very interesting talk.
- 31:50We need to move on to our second
- 31:53speaker who's Gloria Wong and Gloria
- 31:56is a social professor of OBGYN
- 31:59and reproductive sciences here,
- 32:00and she specialized in the
- 32:02treatment and prevention of ovarian,
- 32:04uterine, and cervical cancers.
- 32:05She's a board certified gynecological
- 32:08oncologist who performs minimally
- 32:10invasive surgery and her research
- 32:11interests are in Dimitriou,
- 32:13SIS associated and ovarian cancer
- 32:14in the prevention and treatment
- 32:16of endometrial cancer recurrence.
- 32:18So Gloria, the floor is yours.
- 32:22Hey, thank you so much for the
- 32:24introduction and I really enjoyed
- 32:25the first talk and learns a lot.
- 32:28So let me just see if I can
- 32:30bring up my slides here.
- 32:36Can you see those? Yes,
- 32:38could you put in presentation? Yes perfect
- 32:42great alright. Well today I wanted
- 32:44to talk about a couple of topics
- 32:47on near and dear to my heart,
- 32:49which is translational science and
- 32:52pivotal trials and gynecological cancer.
- 32:57I have my disclosures on file with the
- 33:00CME office, none of which are related
- 33:02to the content of this presentation.
- 33:07In this talk, I want to first give a
- 33:10epidemia brief overview of the epidemiology
- 33:13and current trends in GYN cancer.
- 33:16Challenges and successes in the
- 33:18field of GYN Cancer Research,
- 33:21including highlighting some
- 33:23recent practice changing trials
- 33:25and example of how translational
- 33:29science in my personal experience,
- 33:31can be a driver for clinical trial
- 33:34development and team science,
- 33:36and then also just touch briefly
- 33:39on some resources available
- 33:41for translational research.
- 33:45And these are the learning objectives.
- 33:52Endometrial cancer has been
- 33:54increasing in both incidence and
- 33:56mortality in the United States.
- 33:58Currently, the lifetime risk of developing
- 34:01under mutual cancer is about one in
- 34:0332 and over 800,000 women in the US
- 34:06are living with endometrial cancer.
- 34:08Ovarian cancer mortality has slightly
- 34:11declined in recent years and currently
- 34:14the lifetime risk of developing
- 34:17ovarian cancer is about one in 83
- 34:20and over 200,000 women in EU S R.
- 34:22Living with ovarian cancer. In EU.
- 34:25S. Thanks to HPV vaccination
- 34:27and cervical screening.
- 34:29The cervical cancer rate has declined
- 34:32over the past decades to about 167 women.
- 34:36However, there are significant
- 34:39disparities related to access
- 34:42of care and affecting outcomes.
- 34:46She whined.
- 34:47Cancers arise from the reproductive
- 34:49tract organs, including the ovary,
- 34:52fallopian tube, uterus,
- 34:53cervix, ***** and vagina,
- 34:55and these organs are remarkable in
- 34:58their ability to respond rapidly
- 35:00to endocrine signals, produce sex,
- 35:03hormones and their remarkable capacity
- 35:05for proliferation, regeneration,
- 35:07and morphological changes,
- 35:08and some of these do relate to
- 35:11underlying risk factors and protective
- 35:13factors for GY and cancers.
- 35:15Full fearing cancer,
- 35:17there's a correlation with increased
- 35:20lifetime ambulatory cycles,
- 35:21whereas oral contraceptive use,
- 35:24pregnancy and risk,
- 35:25and breastfeeding decrease risk.
- 35:29A MWe now that.
- 35:32Term line genetic testing has
- 35:34become much more widespread and may,
- 35:36you know, be available to the general public.
- 35:39It is available now for out of
- 35:42pocket cost for you know about $250
- 35:46to determine if one carries a BRCA
- 35:49one or two mutation and for those
- 35:53patients risk reducing surgery is
- 35:55highly protective for women at average risk.
- 35:58There is a benefit to
- 36:01opportunistic salpingectomy so,
- 36:02uhm,
- 36:03a surgical removal of the flippin
- 36:06tubes at the time of other pelvic
- 36:10surgery for benign indications.
- 36:13Endometrial cancer is linked to the
- 36:18rising obesity rate unopposed estrogen
- 36:21as well as hereditary factors,
- 36:24and we know that use of progestin
- 36:27containing oral contraceptive
- 36:28pills or progestin IUD can offer
- 36:31protection as well as risk reducing
- 36:33surgery for patients at higher risk.
- 36:36And cervical cancer can be really
- 36:41eliminated with widespread implementation
- 36:43of HPV vaccination and cervical screening,
- 36:46which currently consists mainly of
- 36:49liquid cytology and high risk HPV detection.
- 36:54We are still facing notable challenges
- 36:56in the fields of GI and cancer,
- 36:59and I'm going to focus today on and a
- 37:02mutual cancer which has an increasing
- 37:04incidence and mortality rate as well
- 37:07as substantial racial disparity in outcomes.
- 37:11However,
- 37:11this is buffeted by recent successes
- 37:14and pivotal trials in GI and cancer
- 37:17in just in the past 18 months alone,
- 37:20we've seen new first line maintenance
- 37:23therapy options for ovarian cancer.
- 37:25New indications for immunotherapy,
- 37:27including for mismatch repair,
- 37:30proficient at a mutual cancer,
- 37:32as well as new first line and second
- 37:34line standard of care for cervical cancer.
- 37:36So really quite amazing how many.
- 37:40Pivotal trials have resulted in
- 37:43the recent 18 to 24 months leading
- 37:46to practice changing.
- 37:50Approaches,
- 37:51so in 2000 end of 2019 the results
- 37:56of Primon Paolo one were published
- 37:58in the New England Journal,
- 38:01leading to the approval of two different
- 38:04options for first line maintenance
- 38:06therapy of epithelial ovarian cancer.
- 38:08Fallopian tube for primary piratini,
- 38:10oh cancer. Following complete or
- 38:12partial response to first line platinum
- 38:15based chemotherapy, the new rap rib.
- 38:19Demonstrated a significant improvement
- 38:22in progression free survival in both
- 38:25the overall intent to treat population
- 38:28and the homologous recombination
- 38:30deficient population with a hazard risk
- 38:34of 0.43 in progression free survival.
- 38:39Come with clear divergance of the
- 38:43progression free survival curves.
- 38:46Similarly, Palo one which tested elapp rib
- 38:50and bevacizumab for first line maintenance,
- 38:54showed remarkable
- 38:55improvement and progression.
- 38:57Free survival on the upper
- 38:59left in the bracket.
- 39:01Mutated population hazard ratio
- 39:04of 0.31 and on the lower right.
- 39:07Patients without a BRAC mutation.
- 39:09But with a molecular test demonstrating.
- 39:13Homologous recombination deficiency
- 39:16as tested by genomic instability also
- 39:20showed a progression free survival
- 39:23benefit with a hazard ratio of 0.4.
- 39:35And outcomes for patients who,
- 39:37unfortunately often prevent present
- 39:40with advanced stage ovarian cancer,
- 39:42and we know that upon recurrence
- 39:46becomes more difficult to treat and
- 39:49more likely to be chemo resistant.
- 39:54In mutual cancer, just to review some
- 39:57of our recent exciting new options.
- 40:00And this has been really a big deal
- 40:04because actually progress has been
- 40:07quite slow and endometrial cancer.
- 40:10Progestin therapy Megace was approved.
- 40:14You know, many decades ago for
- 40:16palliative treatment of enemy,
- 40:18enemy, troll, and breast cancer.
- 40:21However, really many decades
- 40:23elapsed without any new trials,
- 40:26new indicate indicated therapies for
- 40:29endometrial cancer of a big benefit
- 40:32for our patients without mutual cancer,
- 40:35with seen with the accelerated
- 40:38approval of pembrolizumab.
- 40:40For a minute, solid tumors that were
- 40:44mismatch repair deficient as about
- 40:4720% of endometrial cancers are,
- 40:50or microsatellite instability
- 40:52high or more recently,
- 40:54with the addition of the accelerated
- 40:57approval for the tumor mutation burden high.
- 41:00Uhm?
- 41:00Tumors more recently this.
- 41:04Here we have an additional
- 41:07option for mismatch repair
- 41:09deficient and demetral cancer,
- 41:12just Starla Mob,
- 41:13which received accelerated approval
- 41:16in August and then most recently
- 41:20the keynote 775 updated results were
- 41:24presented at ESMO following previous
- 41:27presentation at SGO showing combination.
- 41:31Of pembrolizumab and lymphatic nib.
- 41:35Showing actually with this combination.
- 41:38In proficient mismatch repair.
- 41:41Proficient endometrial cancers.
- 41:43Uhm,
- 41:44an improvement in overall survival,
- 41:46leading to regular approval of
- 41:49this combination for patients with
- 41:51endometrial cancer that is not
- 41:53MSI high that is mismatch repair
- 41:57proficient and have disease progression
- 41:59following prior systemic therapy.
- 42:05Next, I want to move into how we,
- 42:09as clinicians scientists, participate.
- 42:11And a example for trial in
- 42:15progress that I'd like to share.
- 42:18So I have a couple of different
- 42:20projects moving into clinical trials.
- 42:23This one that's currently in
- 42:26enrolling in clinical trial.
- 42:29And emerged from what began as a
- 42:32collaborative team science project,
- 42:34funded by a narrow one and then
- 42:37another trial, which I'm in the
- 42:41process of moving towards the clinic,
- 42:43which is which I won't talk about today,
- 42:47which was based on translational
- 42:48science done in my lab.
- 42:50Supported by DoD grant.
- 42:52For this study,
- 42:54which began quite a long time ago,
- 42:56UM, I collaborated with, UM,
- 43:01Epidemia Cancer epidemiology experts,
- 43:02and we wanted to ask the
- 43:05question of what could,
- 43:07what we know about the development
- 43:10of endometrial cancer and how
- 43:12obesity is a major risk factor
- 43:15for Type 1 endometrial cancer
- 43:17which has been increasing steadily
- 43:20and underlies the primary.
- 43:22Increase in the endometrial cancer
- 43:25incidence as shown here in this graph.
- 43:30See. A man is dorceau tick tick
- 43:34tick lining rate of hysterectomy
- 43:37is another contributing factor.
- 43:39Uh, what was known?
- 43:41And for many studies,
- 43:42including prospective study of
- 43:44the Women's Health Initiative,
- 43:46that some of the underlying biological
- 43:49mechanisms linking obesity to endometrial
- 43:52cancer include increased estrogen
- 43:55levels increased by availability of
- 43:59estrogens and insulin resistance.
- 44:01Uhm, and the question that we asked was,
- 44:04do these factors that underlie the
- 44:07development of endometrial cancer.
- 44:10Do they play a role in the
- 44:13recurrence and progression of women
- 44:16diagnosed with endometrial cancer?
- 44:18For this study,
- 44:20we utilized the tissue by
- 44:22repository of the GOT 210 study.
- 44:25This is a study that was over
- 44:2960 sites around the USFRGOG
- 44:32Gynaecologic oncology group sites,
- 44:34now under the auspices of NRG
- 44:38Oncology and enrolled patients who
- 44:41were undergoing standard surgical
- 44:43care for endometrial cancer and
- 44:45prospective specimen banking was.
- 44:48Performed and sent to a
- 44:51centralized tissue bank,
- 44:52the jioji tissue bank.
- 44:55And and prospective epidemiological
- 44:58surveys and outcomes.
- 45:00Treatment and outcomes data was
- 45:02obtained in order to facilitate
- 45:04translational research,
- 45:06including a variety of molecular
- 45:09and genetic genomic assays
- 45:12and data integration.
- 45:18So we proposed a study
- 45:21within this G210 cohort,
- 45:24which we obtained funding for,
- 45:27and this focused on the patients
- 45:29who had endometrioid Histology,
- 45:31and we investigated the sex hormone
- 45:34and insulin insulin like growth factor,
- 45:38signaling pathways implicated in the
- 45:41development of endometrial cancer,
- 45:43to determine if these factors.
- 45:45More related to the recurrence or
- 45:48progression of higher risk and a
- 45:51Metroid under mutual cancers and
- 45:53this study included over 800 women,
- 45:55of whom 35% experienced a recurrence
- 45:58in a follow-up of over five years.
- 46:06Or the, UM, the methods?
- 46:10The models were adjusted for known
- 46:12clinical risk factors of recurrence,
- 46:15including age, stage and grade,
- 46:17which were all significant risk factors
- 46:21for recurrence and just to summarize,
- 46:24some of the interesting findings
- 46:27which we presented at an ASCO
- 46:30plenary and we published this
- 46:33year in cancer epidemiol AMPDCEP.
- 46:35We found that circulating estradiol is
- 46:38positively associated with recurrence risk,
- 46:41independent of other factors,
- 46:44and in addition,
- 46:45a particular tissue biomarker that I
- 46:48was interested in based on some of my
- 46:51laboratory research that phosphorylated
- 46:53expression of insulin receptor,
- 46:55IGF one receptor was also independently
- 47:00associated with recurrence risk.
- 47:02And this is an example of immunohistochemical
- 47:06staining for the phosphorylated
- 47:09activated form of the receptor.
- 47:12Because of the, you know,
- 47:14large number of patients we did utilize
- 47:17high throughput approaches for this study,
- 47:19which included construction
- 47:21of tissue microarrays and.
- 47:25And in real time PCR.
- 47:29So the translational impact of these
- 47:31findings is that we identified
- 47:33novel sex hormone and insulin,
- 47:35IGF axis tissue and circulating
- 47:37biomarkers of recurrence in a
- 47:39prospective study of high stage enemy
- 47:42troydan mutual cancer and this led to.
- 47:46A motivation to test strategies to
- 47:49target these pathways for prevention
- 47:52and treatment of endometrial cancer
- 47:54and endometrial cancer recurrence.
- 48:01Come in my lab.
- 48:03We looked at different potential
- 48:07therapies for treating and demetral
- 48:10cancer that could be superior to
- 48:13the previously used strategies.
- 48:15So the most commonly used strategies
- 48:19in in the past have been protesting
- 48:23agents aromat ACE inhibitors or
- 48:26combination tamoxifen and megace,
- 48:29and all of those.
- 48:31Resulted in really modest
- 48:33efficacy with progression.
- 48:35Free survivals even in the first
- 48:37line setting of around three months,
- 48:40so this indicated a need for more effective.
- 48:44Effective approaches for endocrine
- 48:46therapy and we found both in cell
- 48:50line models demonstrate we found that
- 48:53combination cyclin D kinase CDK 46
- 49:00inhibition with AROMATISSE inhibitors
- 49:02was potently synergistic and endometrial
- 49:05cancer cell lines and and this is.
- 49:09Something that it's been very
- 49:12successfully implemented.
- 49:13Of course,
- 49:15in estrogen receptor positive breast cancer.
- 49:18And this just shows in vivo data of
- 49:21showing on the Y axis the tumor volumes
- 49:25of the endometrial cancer xenograft.
- 49:28And this was a RB wild type.
- 49:31As expected,
- 49:32we found that RB mutant mutual
- 49:35cancers are not responsive to this
- 49:37combination and you could see
- 49:40in the red that the combination
- 49:43therapy was significantly superior
- 49:45to either agent alone and.
- 49:48Both and much was really able to
- 49:51inhibit growth of this aggressive
- 49:54endometrial cancer xenografted and this
- 49:57is work we presented at the AACR meeting.
- 50:01And this led me to initiate a collaboration
- 50:04guided by valuable input from,
- 50:07you know my division colleagues here at Yale,
- 50:10who of course are leading clinical
- 50:14researchers as well as colleagues
- 50:17and in breast cancer like Doctor
- 50:22Pusztai and my colleague Dr Santine,
- 50:26incorporating their input,
- 50:27I was able to successfully submit a concept.
- 50:30For a clinical trial for two to be
- 50:36supported by Lilly and in collaboration with.
- 50:41Leading clinical trialists in June
- 50:43ecology and the in the Jioji group,
- 50:46which is our major cooperative
- 50:49group for research.
- 50:51We we actually were able to successfully
- 50:56propose and activate an investigator
- 51:00initiated trial which is GOG 3039,
- 51:03a phase two study of abemaciclib
- 51:05in combination with lectures on
- 51:08advanced recurrent or metastatic
- 51:11endometrioid in Dimitriou cancer.
- 51:13This is a phase two single arm trial
- 51:15to evaluate the efficacy of this
- 51:17drug combination for endometrioid and
- 51:19imaginal cancer with dosing based
- 51:21on the current FDA approval for
- 51:23combination therapy and breast cancer.
- 51:27The study endpoints is to evaluate
- 51:30the efficacy and in addition,
- 51:32the translational research component,
- 51:34which is all being done here at Yale.
- 51:39We are. Collecting longitudinally
- 51:44whole whole blood for cell free DNA as
- 51:49well as FFP of the tissue samples for
- 51:53exploratory analysis and identification
- 51:55of novel biomarkers of response.
- 51:58And how does this trial the JIOJI 3039 trial
- 52:02fit into the rapidly evolving landscape
- 52:05of treatment for endometrial cancer?
- 52:07Well surgery, hysterectomy,
- 52:09removal of the tubes and ovaries,
- 52:12and nodal valuation is still the
- 52:14cornerstone of patients presenting
- 52:16with resectable ended mutual cancer.
- 52:18Following surgery,
- 52:19low end and intermediate risk
- 52:22patients are managed with observation,
- 52:25while high intermediate risk
- 52:27patients standard of care.
- 52:29Some receive radiation therapy or
- 52:31vaginal breakey therapy with the
- 52:33potential benefit of the additional
- 52:35of pembrolizumab for mismatch repair.
- 52:38Deficient patients being evaluated
- 52:40in this trial we have open here,
- 52:44which is the Gio 24 high risk higher
- 52:50risk patients following surgery
- 52:52who are fully respected.
- 52:54Admin therapy includes chemotherapy,
- 52:57usually tax on carboplatin.
- 53:00With a mentor,
- 53:02village individualized radio
- 53:03radiation therapy,
- 53:05often including pelvic radiation,
- 53:06if there's pelvic nodal involvement
- 53:08and whether or not pember Lism AB is
- 53:11going to offer additional benefit
- 53:13to reduce the risk of distant
- 53:16Mets in these higher risk women is
- 53:19being evaluated in keynote.
- 53:21E 21 and what about first line therapy
- 53:24for advanced patients measurable disease,
- 53:28metastatic disease,
- 53:30or recurrent disease?
- 53:32So the standard of care currently is
- 53:36chemotherapy with GOG 209 showing tax sale,
- 53:40CARBO doublet therapy as to double as
- 53:44adopted from ovarian cancer is seems to
- 53:47be more tolerable than triplet therapy.
- 53:50So that's become the standard of care
- 53:52and whether or not pember lism AB.
- 53:55Will improve outcomes in these
- 53:57patients who have a very high
- 53:59risk of progression and recurrence
- 54:02is being evaluated in giot, oh.
- 54:05Eighteen also actively enrolling and
- 54:08in this patient population where NCCN.
- 54:11Guidelines also described hormonal
- 54:13therapy as an option.
- 54:16Would definitely consider Geo G39 for
- 54:19these patients who would be eligible.
- 54:25And what about in the second line setting?
- 54:28Currently we have standard of
- 54:30care options for patients who
- 54:32progressed on previous chemo and
- 54:35those include for mismatch repair,
- 54:37deficient pembrolizumab or just Starla mad.
- 54:41And then for the MMR proficient,
- 54:43we saw that pembrolizumab and inland
- 54:47vatnik combination performed better
- 54:49than physicians choice of second line
- 54:52chemo in the GY and art portfolio.
- 54:55We have a number of biomarker
- 54:58driven therapies being evaluated
- 55:00in a phase two setting,
- 55:02and these are led by Doctor Santine,
- 55:04a fully receptor alpha targeting
- 55:07antibody drug conjugate,
- 55:09as well as a trope 2 targeting anti
- 55:13antibody drug conjugate and certainly
- 55:16for endometrioid endometrial cancer
- 55:19would would would recommend consideration
- 55:23of GOG 39 for these patients.
- 55:26So patients are eligible for GOG 3039
- 55:31with up to two prior systemic regimens,
- 55:34one of which could have been chemo,
- 55:36one of which could have been immunotherapy.
- 55:39And we actually have activated over 20
- 55:43sites of the 25 selected sites and have
- 55:48really been having rapid accrual with the.
- 55:53Current rate of accrual
- 55:55exceeding our expectation of one,
- 55:57and it's currently one to two
- 55:59patients per week.
- 56:00For this trial, which,
- 56:02if it goes to second stage,
- 56:04would enroll a maximum of 52 patients.
- 56:08I just wanted to briefly touch on
- 56:10that since this is relatively new.
- 56:12Is this NCTM navigator or clinical
- 56:15trial specimen resource and it's
- 56:18available for validation of
- 56:20hypotheses following already completed
- 56:23exploratory and pilot studies,
- 56:25and this includes a very vast
- 56:27number of specimens,
- 56:28including a lot of the specimens that were
- 56:31transferred over from the jioji tissue bank,
- 56:34and there is a workflow available.
- 56:38For exploring what specimens are
- 56:42available and submitting for
- 56:45for access to these specimens,
- 56:47for for addressing research questions
- 56:50that may require large number of
- 56:53samples that are collected in a
- 56:56very rigorous way and then,
- 56:59how do we fund translational research
- 57:02in the area of some declining support?
- 57:06One of the mechanisms.
- 57:08Which has been super valuable for
- 57:11supporting translational support.
- 57:14Is this poor mechanism,
- 57:16which of course yellows been very
- 57:18successful and has spores and head and neck,
- 57:21lung, and skin cancer.
- 57:23There are very few GYN funded spores,
- 57:26currently only one and ended meet
- 57:28real one in cervical,
- 57:305 in ovarian and there's one new.
- 57:33Sporen that focuses on health disparities
- 57:37and endometrial Varian cancer.
- 57:40So I hope I've relate some of my
- 57:43enthusiasm for team science and
- 57:45its essential ingredient for
- 57:47translational science and conduct of
- 57:49clinical trials for gene cancers,
- 57:52which are relatively rare
- 57:54cancers and really way for having
- 57:57exciting and meaningful impact.
- 58:00And I hope I've,
- 58:01I hope to yell at people who are
- 58:03interested in collaborating with.
- 58:05Contact me in my emails listed here.
- 58:10Thank you Gloria. Very interesting,
- 58:12very exciting to see the progress
- 58:14that's been made and all these
- 58:16trials that are underway.
- 58:17They're underway, people can please.
- 58:21Type your questions into the chat.
- 58:23While we're waiting, you might want
- 58:24to talk to Roy Herbst if you haven't.
- 58:27He's sort of taking the lead on
- 58:29trying to organize new spores and
- 58:31has quite a bit of experience,
- 58:32so he might be someone to talk to.
- 58:34Be great to have this poor in this
- 58:36in this area in the Piola trial.
- 58:38It it it was comparing bracket positive.
- 58:41Projecting negative patients.
- 58:42Was that bracket one or two or or both?
- 58:45Did they they stratify that?
- 58:49So in the data that was
- 58:52published in the paper,
- 58:54at least not in the main manuscript.
- 58:56I don't recall seeing a stratification
- 59:01of the Braca one versus bracket two.
- 59:05They did show the hazard ratios and
- 59:09PFS curves for a few different groups,
- 59:14and that included the bracket
- 59:17tumor mutation positive.
- 59:19The bracca tumor mutation,
- 59:21positive and HRD positive and
- 59:24then the bracket to mutation.
- 59:27Negative or wild type and HRD
- 59:32positive and then for so.
- 59:35The UM for that trial, the, UM,
- 59:39the benefit was seen in the Braca positive
- 59:44Braca mutated or the HRD positive,
- 59:49which in that trial was
- 59:51determined by the myriad.
- 59:53My choice HRD thing.
- 59:55Uhm and there was not a clinical
- 60:00benefit in the HR proficient.
- 01:00:03Braka wildtype group.
- 01:00:05But that's an interesting question
- 01:00:08about if there are differences
- 01:00:10between Bracha one or two.
- 01:00:13Uhm, mutated,
- 01:00:14which I'm not sure I'll
- 01:00:16look into that though.
- 01:00:17OK, alright, good. There any other
- 01:00:21questions from the audience?
- 01:00:26If not, will thank you Gloria.
- 01:00:28It was very interesting and also Michaela.
- 01:00:29I thought we had a terrific series today
- 01:00:32and we'll see you all next week, bye. I.