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Smilow Cancer Hospital Town Hall | January 24, 2024

January 25, 2024
  • 00:00Welcome to this Milo
  • 00:02Cancer Hospital Town Hall.
  • 00:04We're very thankful and appreciative
  • 00:06of everyone taking time to join
  • 00:08us this evening and hopefully
  • 00:09going to provide you with some
  • 00:11really exciting news and updates
  • 00:15just to go over the agenda quickly.
  • 00:16Doctor Billingsley and myself will
  • 00:19do some quick announcements and
  • 00:21recognition and then we are going to
  • 00:25hear from Doctor Henry Park regarding
  • 00:28Reflexion radiotherapy exclusively
  • 00:30in the Northeast at Smilo. Dr.
  • 00:33Vita Guerra will talk about genetic testing,
  • 00:35referrals and ordering.
  • 00:36And then Mandy Merle is going to
  • 00:38speak to us on early release of
  • 00:41medication orders followed by Maddie
  • 00:43Callahan who will be talking about
  • 00:45improving patients quality of life
  • 00:47through our excellent supportive
  • 00:48care program that she's leading.
  • 00:50And then we do have question and
  • 00:53answer session that will be moderated.
  • 00:55There's a chat that you can put and
  • 00:58some were sent in ahead of time.
  • 00:59So we'll be hopefully giving time
  • 01:02for questions and responding to that
  • 01:04chat throughout the presentation.
  • 01:08I'm going to turn it over
  • 01:09to Doctor Billingsley.
  • 01:10Yeah, thank you, Tracy.
  • 01:12And again, I also want to extend a
  • 01:15note of welcome and gratitude for
  • 01:17people taking the time to be here
  • 01:19despite the winter dreary weather.
  • 01:23We have lots of exciting development
  • 01:26and growth and SMILO and the Yale
  • 01:29Cancer Center and the cancer enterprise
  • 01:32across the organization and it's just
  • 01:35wonderful to bring these updates.
  • 01:37I first wanted to take some time to
  • 01:39talk about growth and development
  • 01:41in the Center for Thoracic Cancers.
  • 01:44As this community knows,
  • 01:46this has been one of our true signature
  • 01:50programs and has been a program which
  • 01:53has not only provided outstanding
  • 01:56clinical care across the organization,
  • 01:58but has been an engine of clinical
  • 02:02trials and research that have really
  • 02:04delivered life changing therapy
  • 02:06to lung cancer patients across
  • 02:08the country and around the world.
  • 02:10And like all great organizations there,
  • 02:13we have been going through an exciting
  • 02:16leadership change in development.
  • 02:19And in recent years,
  • 02:20this program has been under the really
  • 02:23wonderful stewardship of Doctor
  • 02:25Roy Herbst and Doctor Dan Boffa,
  • 02:28medical oncology and surgical
  • 02:31oncology leaders.
  • 02:32And I would also be remiss if I did
  • 02:35not mention the strong history of
  • 02:37this program that developed under the
  • 02:40leadership not only of Roy and Dan,
  • 02:43but of Frank Detterbeck,
  • 02:45Doctor Lynn Tenui and of course
  • 02:48the incomparable Roy Decker.
  • 02:50So just a moment to to reflect
  • 02:53on their contributions and be
  • 02:55grateful for them as well.
  • 02:57But the exciting new chapter
  • 03:00in thoracic oncology,
  • 03:01we do have new leadership coming
  • 03:03forward and doctor Sarah Goldberg,
  • 03:06Medical Oncology Associate Professor
  • 03:08has stepped forward and she will be Co
  • 03:12leading with doctor Justin Blasberg,
  • 03:14thoracic surgery,
  • 03:15thoracic surgical oncologist,
  • 03:18associate professor in the
  • 03:19Department of Surgery.
  • 03:20Both of these are remarkable clinicians,
  • 03:23researchers and leaders in our
  • 03:27organization and it's exciting to see
  • 03:29them both step forward to take a more
  • 03:32prominent role in this terrific program.
  • 03:34So Sarah and Justin,
  • 03:36welcome and thank you.
  • 03:38We know the program's going to
  • 03:41continue to thrive under your guidance.
  • 03:44Next please.
  • 03:47As a gastrointestinal surgical oncologist,
  • 03:50I'm particularly excited to share
  • 03:54this next piece of news and
  • 03:56development is the audience knows
  • 03:59the Center for Advanced Endoscopy
  • 04:02has been for many years a pillar
  • 04:06of our GI oncology program.
  • 04:09The services that this group of
  • 04:12gastroenterologists offer are truly
  • 04:14remarkable ranging from endoscopy to
  • 04:17ERCP to stent placement to endoscopic
  • 04:20ultrasound to very complicated both
  • 04:23therapeutic and palliative interventions
  • 04:26for patients with GI cancer.
  • 04:29It's a unique set of services really in
  • 04:32the state and they offer some of the
  • 04:35most innovative procedures in the Northeast.
  • 04:38Doctor Jamadar has been really at the
  • 04:41forefront of this for many years,
  • 04:43has been a steward of the program
  • 04:47and a trailblazer in this area.
  • 04:49He will continue to see patients
  • 04:52and be a very active clinician
  • 04:55and advisor in the program,
  • 04:57but the torch of leadership will
  • 05:00be passing to Doctor Thiru Muniraj.
  • 05:02Many of you know Thiru Thiru is an
  • 05:06outstanding individual.
  • 05:06He's a wonderful clinician.
  • 05:08He's beloved by both his
  • 05:10colleagues and his patients.
  • 05:12And I think it's really well
  • 05:15positioned to lead the center
  • 05:17in the future months and years.
  • 05:19So very excited to share this development.
  • 05:22Next I'll kick it back to you, Tracy.
  • 05:27Yeah, and we are also excited
  • 05:30to announce that Angela Carrera
  • 05:32will be joining us as the interim
  • 05:34Manager for oncology social work
  • 05:36across the Smilo enterprise.
  • 05:38And Angela comes with a lot of
  • 05:41knowledge and commitment to our
  • 05:43patients over the last decade in SMILO,
  • 05:45She has worked in the SMILO
  • 05:48Survivorship Clinic,
  • 05:49the Breast Center and the Psycho
  • 05:51Oncology program and brings a lot
  • 05:54of experience in leadership to work
  • 05:56with our teams as we move and develop
  • 05:58social work across the continuum.
  • 06:00So we look forward to Angela coming
  • 06:02on board and she will be coming
  • 06:05to a town hall soon to share sort
  • 06:07of her vision for social work
  • 06:09in the next few months.
  • 06:14We wanted to give
  • 06:15you an update on you know sort of the
  • 06:18hospital surge that's currently happening.
  • 06:21I think most people are aware that we've
  • 06:24been in a sort of a surge operations for
  • 06:28the last several weeks and it it seems to
  • 06:31progress each day to a worse situation.
  • 06:33This is just an example from this morning
  • 06:36of where we stood when we started the
  • 06:39morning with our total census and you
  • 06:41know capacity at both organizations.
  • 06:43I think what we really want to highlight
  • 06:46here is that there were 74 patients
  • 06:48boarding in the Ed this morning.
  • 06:51Those are patients waiting that are
  • 06:53already have admission orders but no
  • 06:55bed to be assigned and nineteen of
  • 06:57them had been there over 24 hours.
  • 06:59So as everyone understands,
  • 07:01that's a really unsafe situation and
  • 07:04we've had some serious safety events
  • 07:06in the Ed due to overcrowding and if
  • 07:09anyone's walked down there during this
  • 07:11time it's it's it's like a war zone,
  • 07:14it's very concerning.
  • 07:15So several things are being put into
  • 07:19place to try and alleviate some of
  • 07:22the burden in the Ed As of today.
  • 07:25Hallway beds have been used in the
  • 07:28medicine service line for quite
  • 07:31a while during these surges,
  • 07:32but it has opened up and now
  • 07:35will include three of our units,
  • 07:38NP 1214 and 15 in Smilo.
  • 07:40But it's also opening up to all,
  • 07:42many of the other surgical units
  • 07:45across all of the towers.
  • 07:47They are seeing a significant number
  • 07:49of surgery patients boarding in
  • 07:51the Ed which is a new phenomenon.
  • 07:53So these will be patient with,
  • 07:55these will be our own patients and
  • 07:58there are exclusion criteria as as far
  • 08:01as who is appropriate to be in the
  • 08:03in those hallway beds and each unit
  • 08:05will have one designated hallway bed.
  • 08:08They are encouraging.
  • 08:09We are encouraging people to pursue
  • 08:12outpatient evaluations for non urgent
  • 08:14issues and there was discussion of
  • 08:17sort of social media and campaigns
  • 08:19again around using urgent care
  • 08:21centers instead of the Ed.
  • 08:23We also have the closer to home
  • 08:26lounges that we can send patients
  • 08:28to that are staffed with APCA.
  • 08:31Those are patients who are ready to
  • 08:33go home but you know don't have a
  • 08:35ride and need to wait for a while.
  • 08:37And then as a reminder,
  • 08:39we also have the home hospital
  • 08:41inpatients can get transferred to
  • 08:43home hospital if they're not quite
  • 08:45ready to go home alone and and sort
  • 08:48of ready to launch from the hospital
  • 08:50and there is a a whole team that works
  • 08:53on facilitating that if we identify patients.
  • 08:56So we're we're asking everyone to
  • 08:58sort of get on board in this endeavor
  • 09:00to try and really ensure that we can
  • 09:03move patients through our system in
  • 09:05order to get new patients is it's
  • 09:07a it's a good thing that we have
  • 09:09volume but we want to ensure safety.
  • 09:11And I think Kevin also wanted to
  • 09:12add a few words.
  • 09:14Thank. Thank you, Tracy.
  • 09:17You know, I think like always
  • 09:19we care for cancer patients,
  • 09:21but we are also part of a larger
  • 09:24healthcare system and we play a
  • 09:26pivotal role in function within
  • 09:28that system to ensure capacity not
  • 09:30only for care of cancer patients,
  • 09:33but the entire spectrum of patients
  • 09:36from Connecticut and beyond who require
  • 09:39hospitalization for their illness.
  • 09:41So it is incumbent upon us to
  • 09:45participate as great citizens
  • 09:47and that as we always do,
  • 09:49as we did in the pandemic and
  • 09:51as we continue to do.
  • 09:53And it is hard to overstate the
  • 09:56impact of the current capacity crisis.
  • 09:59I did my first case yesterday
  • 10:01and my second operative case.
  • 10:03The patient was in the pre op
  • 10:05holding area and she was on hold
  • 10:07for about four hours till we can
  • 10:09ensure that there's a bed for her
  • 10:11to go into after the procedure.
  • 10:13So we are at a point where we are
  • 10:16struggling to deliver care to patients
  • 10:18because we don't have the capacity.
  • 10:21I just need to take a minute and under
  • 10:23score the role that we as clinicians,
  • 10:26particularly physicians and senior
  • 10:28APPS and have have in messaging
  • 10:31this to our patients and families,
  • 10:34often our patients who were in
  • 10:36the comfort of a hospital bed.
  • 10:38And I say that relatively have no
  • 10:42idea how profound the hospital
  • 10:44capacity situation is.
  • 10:46And whether they leave at 10
  • 10:49or three or four,
  • 10:50sometimes they don't understand
  • 10:53how significant those few hours
  • 10:56can be and impacting the care of
  • 10:58other patients who were either
  • 10:59waiting for procedures or in the Ed.
  • 11:02So I would encourage all of us to
  • 11:06round early and often and be very
  • 11:09clear in the importance of getting a ride,
  • 11:12communicating with family,
  • 11:14early discharge planning and making
  • 11:17alternative plans to get out of
  • 11:20the hospital in a timely way at
  • 11:22that on the day of discharge.
  • 11:25So that's a hard message for
  • 11:27the nursing staff to deliver.
  • 11:30It's a hard message for the
  • 11:33care management staff.
  • 11:34It is really an area where the
  • 11:36clinicians need to be leading the way.
  • 11:38So I thank all of our teams in advance
  • 11:41for your assistance with this.
  • 11:47So on that sobering note,
  • 11:49I'm going to turn to a more upbeat topic,
  • 11:52which is I am thrilled to announce a
  • 11:57new technology in radiation oncology.
  • 11:59We have Doctor Henry Park with us who
  • 12:02is the radiation oncologist who's the
  • 12:05medical director of our new Reflexion
  • 12:08system that was launched a week or so ago.
  • 12:10And without any further commentary,
  • 12:12I think I'm going to have Doctor Park
  • 12:15tell us about the many benefits that
  • 12:17the therapy has for our patients.
  • 12:22Well, thank you very much.
  • 12:23Can you see my slides?
  • 12:26OK, fantastic. All right.
  • 12:27So thanks very much.
  • 12:29I'm here to talk to you for the
  • 12:31next 5 minutes or so about syntax
  • 12:34biologically guided radiation
  • 12:35therapy also known as BGRT that we
  • 12:38can apply with this new machine
  • 12:40that we have the Reflection X1.
  • 12:41And I I really want to thank everyone
  • 12:43who is who is involved in in in
  • 12:45helping you know over the last
  • 12:46few years get this set up to to to
  • 12:49really this really was a team effort.
  • 12:52Yeah my disclosures including
  • 12:54research funding and consulting
  • 12:56from the company external beam RT
  • 12:58as long as you know is is often
  • 13:00bill it's often given by linear
  • 13:03accelerator that produces high
  • 13:05energy X-rays to treat cancer.
  • 13:07And for each patient we tend
  • 13:09to customize dose delivery and
  • 13:11distribution using some advanced
  • 13:13techniques like IMRT and SBRTI won't
  • 13:15go into the full details of what
  • 13:16that means right now except to say
  • 13:18that it's it's very customized and
  • 13:20really for each patient we're able
  • 13:22to to deliver very high quality
  • 13:23radiation for them with the,
  • 13:25with the,
  • 13:25with the technology that we already have.
  • 13:27This is often guided by daily imaging
  • 13:29before every treatment as well to
  • 13:31be sure that we're really matching what we,
  • 13:33what we think we're doing to what
  • 13:35we're actually giving to the patient.
  • 13:37Some tumors can move substantially
  • 13:39as patients breathe.
  • 13:40So just that as the normal
  • 13:42respiratory motion happens,
  • 13:43especially in the lung and the GI tract,
  • 13:46it's very common for Fatimas to
  • 13:48breathe to move with with every breath.
  • 13:52So the reflection next one is a
  • 13:54novel radiation technology that has
  • 13:56the capability of using the tumor's
  • 13:58own biological PET signal to track
  • 14:01the radiation beams in real time.
  • 14:03This is known as biologically guided
  • 14:05radiation meaning that the tumor
  • 14:07itself serves as as the the honing
  • 14:09device you know for the the radiation by by.
  • 14:12So really as it moves we're able to
  • 14:15to to guide the radiation beams to
  • 14:17follow along as well in real time.
  • 14:20So this is this now is called
  • 14:22Syntex by the company.
  • 14:24This can this machine can also
  • 14:26treat with with standard IMRT and
  • 14:28SBRT as well but really designed
  • 14:29to be able to function to to to
  • 14:32to use the PET signal as well in
  • 14:34order to to do the the BGRT.
  • 14:38So I know there's a lot of acronyms
  • 14:40in radiation oncology but the the
  • 14:42basic idea here is if the red is the
  • 14:44tumor and brown is a target we we we
  • 14:46we can draw out what the tumor is.
  • 14:48But the tumor as you breathe in may move
  • 14:50up and down or left and right or really
  • 14:53any number of directions that we can image.
  • 14:55So that moves and then we we cover the
  • 14:58whole area where the tumor moves in
  • 15:00each for each breath and then we add
  • 15:02a little bit of margin around that to
  • 15:04account for any potential setup errors.
  • 15:06So this at the end is what we
  • 15:08actually treat is the brown.
  • 15:09However with BGRT,
  • 15:10the idea is that you can because
  • 15:13you can track the tumor itself,
  • 15:15you only need that small setup error
  • 15:17margin but not the margin to incorporate
  • 15:19the whole respiratory motion.
  • 15:20So that's why at the end you see
  • 15:22the brown here for BGRT is much
  • 15:25smaller than for the SBRT.
  • 15:26So the idea behind tracking the PET
  • 15:28signal in real time is that we could
  • 15:30decrease the size of the radiation field,
  • 15:32also increase the confidence of
  • 15:34fully hitting our target in case
  • 15:36something changes during the treatment
  • 15:38itself and also to decrease side
  • 15:40the risks of side effects as well.
  • 15:43So that's the really the promise
  • 15:44of this technology is that we'll
  • 15:45be able to do this more and more.
  • 15:48Now as you've may have heard,
  • 15:50we have the 5th Reflection X1
  • 15:52machine in the world here installed
  • 15:54back in April of this past year.
  • 15:56We're the first ones on the East Coast,
  • 15:58the other ones being in Pittsburgh,
  • 16:00in Dallas, Los Angeles and Palo Alto.
  • 16:03And we've also had the fastest ramp
  • 16:05up of the IMRT and SBRT capabilities
  • 16:07of any facility with with using
  • 16:09this machine to really go into to
  • 16:11basically full capacity at this point.
  • 16:13Now we've installed the BGRT
  • 16:15component of this in December.
  • 16:16So just last month the FDA approval for
  • 16:20using BGRT was was given in in February.
  • 16:23So since then all five of the first
  • 16:25five centers have now installed this.
  • 16:27Now we've had a ribbon cutting earlier
  • 16:29this month and are preparing right now
  • 16:31to treat the first patient at Yale who
  • 16:33would be the 4th patient overall in
  • 16:34the world to be treated with this technology.
  • 16:40So indications for reflection
  • 16:41S1 are that the IMRT or SBRT. We really,
  • 16:44really anyone who gets normal radiation,
  • 16:47who gets IMRT or SBRT who needs
  • 16:48some kind of complex radiation
  • 16:50treatment can be on this machine.
  • 16:52There are a few exceptions
  • 16:53that that we we can work out,
  • 16:55but but basically all tumor types are allowed
  • 16:58to get the IMRT or SBRT on this machine.
  • 17:01We also have the for the BGRT that's
  • 17:03that that's for a smaller population.
  • 17:04So only for those with lung or bone lesions,
  • 17:08it could be the primary,
  • 17:09it could be a met,
  • 17:11but has to be treated with five or
  • 17:13fewer fractions with a high dose.
  • 17:14So with the SPRT paradigm,
  • 17:17but just right now in the lung and the bone,
  • 17:19but hopefully eventually will
  • 17:20be for other sites as well.
  • 17:21It has to be hypermetabolic on PET scan
  • 17:23of course to be able to follow the PET
  • 17:25signal and not all tumors are like that.
  • 17:26And eventually the goal and and
  • 17:28one of the reasons we really got
  • 17:29this machine and we're very excited
  • 17:31about this was because of the,
  • 17:32the goal to treat multiple
  • 17:34metastatic sites at once.
  • 17:35We're not quite there yet but they
  • 17:38with with stage 4 cancers of all
  • 17:40types to be able to treat for for
  • 17:42complete metastatic ablation of of
  • 17:43maybe more than all of the metastatic
  • 17:45disease but even potentially
  • 17:47Poly metastatic disease someday.
  • 17:48And if the and and and to be ahead
  • 17:50of the curve in terms of of this
  • 17:53potential indication for for the
  • 17:54use of radiation in that capacity
  • 17:56similar to what we've seen for Gamma
  • 17:58Knife for for brain metastases in
  • 17:59that it used to be very restrictive
  • 18:01to only one or one to four meds.
  • 18:03But now we treat you know we can we
  • 18:05can we often routinely treat more than
  • 18:0710 metastases at once because of the
  • 18:09technology and how it's developed over time.
  • 18:11So we're hoping to also be able to
  • 18:13do this in the body as well and and
  • 18:15and and and really we're in the very
  • 18:17early stages now of of developing this.
  • 18:18But but we're working very closely
  • 18:20with the company to to start simple
  • 18:22and then eventually expand to much
  • 18:24more complicated indications.
  • 18:26From the research side we're
  • 18:27very excited as well.
  • 18:28We just got this perspective registry
  • 18:30called Premier activated through the CTO.
  • 18:33It's a multi institutional perspective
  • 18:35registry that aims to to really to
  • 18:37to study the health related quality
  • 18:38of life primarily but also other
  • 18:40endpoints as well that I've listed here.
  • 18:42And really any patient treated on the
  • 18:45reflection whether it's IMRTSPRT or
  • 18:47this BGRT syntax can really be for
  • 18:50anywhere in the body or they would be
  • 18:52treated anyway can be honest registry
  • 18:54and and and and and and this is going
  • 18:56to be really important to collect
  • 18:57this data over time to to really see the the,
  • 19:00the value of this technology
  • 19:02and then also the potential for
  • 19:04industry sponsored grants as
  • 19:05well. We've recently executed a master
  • 19:07research agreement between Yale University
  • 19:09and Reflection Medical that allows us
  • 19:11to obtain industry sponsored grants and
  • 19:14propose investigated initiated trials.
  • 19:15We've already executed 3 grants that
  • 19:17we've had approved a little while ago.
  • 19:18But now that we have the MRA done,
  • 19:21we are looking forward to to to
  • 19:23executing these grants and to
  • 19:25to actually doing this work.
  • 19:26And we're very excited to be able to
  • 19:28collaborate with nuclear medicine,
  • 19:30with the PET Center,
  • 19:31with medical oncology,
  • 19:32surgical oncology and many others to for for
  • 19:35really innovative research going forward.
  • 19:39So in summary,
  • 19:40this is a very exciting time for
  • 19:41Smilo and a unique opportunity to
  • 19:43be early adopters and researchers
  • 19:44of this novel technology.
  • 19:46Feel free to call me or any of your
  • 19:48friendly Yale radiation oncologist at
  • 19:49any of the sites if you're wondering
  • 19:51if this is right for your patients.
  • 19:53We we certainly will need to do our
  • 19:56legwork to to to figure out if if
  • 19:58your patients may be a candidate.
  • 19:59But we are already getting calls from
  • 20:01all over the country and even from
  • 20:03around the world about this technology.
  • 20:04You know people who live in China and
  • 20:06and have a family member in New York
  • 20:08City who who are interested in if
  • 20:09he heard about this and then want to
  • 20:11hear more and see if they're eligible.
  • 20:13We're always interested in taking those
  • 20:14calls and and hearing more about the
  • 20:16history and seeing if they if they
  • 20:17may be able to to come in and and
  • 20:19people are very willing to fly over
  • 20:21to to to to to have a consultation if
  • 20:23if it seems like it may be appropriate.
  • 20:25So I want to really thank all the Y,
  • 20:26NHH and SMILO leadership as well
  • 20:28as our physicists, asymmetrists,
  • 20:30therapists, nurses, engineers,
  • 20:32administrators, lawyers,
  • 20:34clinical research staff,
  • 20:34residents and attendings and many and
  • 20:36so many others for your your hard
  • 20:38work and collaboration so far in in
  • 20:40getting this program off the ground.
  • 20:44Thank you very much.
  • 20:48Thanks, Henry. That is really it.
  • 20:52I it's hard to overstate the excitement
  • 20:54that I think we all feel and we look
  • 20:57forward to continued updates not
  • 20:59only on the clinical front but and
  • 21:04the research environment as well.
  • 21:10Next up is help me, Renee.
  • 21:15Is it Maddie or is it Man Yee or
  • 21:18is it Doctor Geary? Doctor Gary?
  • 21:23OK, take it away. Doctor Gary.
  • 21:25Lots developing on the genetics front.
  • 21:33Unmute that. OK. Yes, absolutely.
  • 21:36Thank you so much for the opportunity
  • 21:38to come and present for a few minutes.
  • 21:42I hope everyone can hear
  • 21:43me OK and see my slides.
  • 21:45So just in a few minutes I want to run
  • 21:48through some updates for the cancer
  • 21:51genetics and prevention program,
  • 21:53give some idea of the signature of
  • 21:55care pathways that we have built
  • 21:57to help accommodate the patients
  • 21:59that that need genetic testing.
  • 22:01And then really important to
  • 22:03importantly to bring forward some of
  • 22:05the new revisions to our processes
  • 22:07that have had to happen because of
  • 22:09adhering to federal compliance.
  • 22:12So I just thought I would take this
  • 22:15opportunity though to actually show
  • 22:17our cancer genetics and prevention
  • 22:19program back to Smilo and others
  • 22:22here on the on the meeting as
  • 22:24well because it's a real great,
  • 22:25really great team and really
  • 22:27includes a wealth of expertise.
  • 22:30And when we're talking
  • 22:31about genetic testing here,
  • 22:33we're talking about germline genetic
  • 22:35testing and thinking about the hereditary
  • 22:38nature of genetic testing As such,
  • 22:41we have our team of physicians
  • 22:44who are really integral into our
  • 22:48processes for genetic testing,
  • 22:50genetically based management
  • 22:51and high risk care.
  • 22:53With myself and I'm a medical oncologist
  • 22:56and with a specialty in cancer genetics
  • 23:00as well as prostate and Gu cancers,
  • 23:02we have Alan Bale who's been
  • 23:04with the program for many,
  • 23:06many years with the medical genetics
  • 23:08expertise and molecular genetics expertise.
  • 23:10And we're thrilled that we have had
  • 23:13Ellie Prasalaglu who's joined our
  • 23:15team who's a breast surgeon and I
  • 23:17also a trained OBGYN to lead our
  • 23:20breast high risk and genetics efforts.
  • 23:22We have a really terrific team of
  • 23:25genetic counselors that are shown here
  • 23:27with the two lead genetic counselors,
  • 23:29Amanda Ganzak and Claire Healy,
  • 23:30who are the genetics Co managers and they
  • 23:34lead a team of genetic counselors who
  • 23:35see patients across the Smilo network.
  • 23:37So we are seeing patients as you can
  • 23:40see here across the various sites
  • 23:43that are really important in terms of
  • 23:45helping access to care for patients.
  • 23:47We've also recently started a fast
  • 23:49track program and our two genetics
  • 23:51clinical coordinators are shown here,
  • 23:53Carla Cullen Vasquez and Caitlin Shetland.
  • 23:56This is a way to help meet the needs
  • 23:58and I'll talk about this in just a
  • 24:00moment in a more expedited fashion
  • 24:02for genetic testing given the rise
  • 24:03in some indications like precision
  • 24:06medicine and certainly for example
  • 24:08for surgical decision making as well.
  • 24:10We have our genetic counselling
  • 24:12assistants as well who are really
  • 24:13integral to help the genetic
  • 24:15counsellors and the team in terms
  • 24:16of all of the processes that have
  • 24:18to happen for genetic testing.
  • 24:20And then our high risk clinic is with
  • 24:23Sue Smeal who is in APRN and again has
  • 24:25been with our program for a very long
  • 24:28time to see our high risk patients.
  • 24:30So it's a really great team.
  • 24:32Please reach out to any of us at any point.
  • 24:34We love working with the clinical teams.
  • 24:37So the guiding principles for the
  • 24:41processes that we've developed and
  • 24:43you'll see some of the updates are
  • 24:45really ensuring that we adhere to
  • 24:47standard of care for genetic testing
  • 24:49and the practice of genetic evaluation,
  • 24:52ensuring access to care such that
  • 24:54we are able to provide genetic
  • 24:56services across our catchment areas
  • 24:58and in our network and communities
  • 25:01and ensuring that we are adherent
  • 25:03to federal compliance mandates.
  • 25:07So from the physician clinics,
  • 25:09if we look at this flow diagram it
  • 25:12when a patient is identified that
  • 25:13needs to have genetic testing,
  • 25:15there are multiple ways that genetic
  • 25:18testing and genetic evaluation can
  • 25:20be conducted and we've built these
  • 25:23different ways such that it can be
  • 25:25conducive to the needs of the practice.
  • 25:26So for example,
  • 25:27one of the pathways and I'll talk
  • 25:29in more detail about what these are
  • 25:30in just a second would be point
  • 25:32of care where the genetic testing
  • 25:34can be initiated in the provider
  • 25:36practices or it could be through
  • 25:38referral upfront to the cancer
  • 25:40genetics and prevention program.
  • 25:42And we have different referral
  • 25:45processes that are set up.
  • 25:47So those providers that are on EPIC,
  • 25:49whether they're SMILO based providers,
  • 25:51non SMILO based providers,
  • 25:52but also on EPIC,
  • 25:54but also other providers who may not be
  • 25:56on EPIC but who we work very closely
  • 25:59with can also refer to our program.
  • 26:02So the referrals really should be
  • 26:04placed in EPIC if you have EPIC as
  • 26:06are the most sort of the I'll proof
  • 26:08tracking mechanism for referrals
  • 26:09coming to the genetics program.
  • 26:11And once they are in the genetics
  • 26:15program system,
  • 26:16we triage them into either the fast
  • 26:17track program or the genetic counseling
  • 26:19to have a genetic counseling visit.
  • 26:21So let me just talk about that for
  • 26:23just a second and this will then
  • 26:25lead into some of the processes
  • 26:27for adhering to compliance.
  • 26:28So in the genetic evaluation process,
  • 26:31as I mentioned a physician clinics
  • 26:33could have the option to think
  • 26:36about point of care where here the
  • 26:38physician team identifies a patient
  • 26:41that needs genetic testing and
  • 26:43there's really no question about
  • 26:45whether they meet indications.
  • 26:46Here the patient can be shown a
  • 26:48pre test video that we've developed
  • 26:51for the clinical teams and after
  • 26:53the video is seen and patient is
  • 26:55ensured of their understanding of
  • 26:57hereditary cancer genetic testing.
  • 26:59The genetic test is ordered by the
  • 27:01physician team or their staff.
  • 27:03The testing is sent to currently
  • 27:05the Yale DNA Laboratory,
  • 27:06but we're trying to build it out
  • 27:08with additional labs integrated
  • 27:09into EPIC to help ease the ordering
  • 27:12and enhance the testing capability.
  • 27:14Insurance authorization would be
  • 27:16complete completed by the lab or
  • 27:18by the physician's office and then
  • 27:20the patient can be referred on the
  • 27:22back end to Cancer Genetics for
  • 27:24full results disclosure,
  • 27:25particularly if they have a
  • 27:27genetic mutation identified.
  • 27:29But if the clinician team actually prefers
  • 27:31to refer up front to the genetics program,
  • 27:33then what we would do is triage
  • 27:35once we received
  • 27:36the referral to fast track
  • 27:38or to genetic counseling.
  • 27:39The fast track program as they mentioned
  • 27:41is a way to expedite genetic testing
  • 27:43for patients that meet clearly meet
  • 27:45NCCN guidelines for genetic testing.
  • 27:47The volumes of patients that need
  • 27:49genetic testing has risen substantially.
  • 27:51And so we know we have had to
  • 27:54think creatively about how to
  • 27:55address the needs for our patients.
  • 27:57So here the patients are seen by the one
  • 27:59of the genetic clinical coordinators.
  • 28:01They're shown the video genetic
  • 28:04testing is ordered.
  • 28:05Our team completes the insurance
  • 28:07authorization if required and then the
  • 28:09results are disclosed by the genetics
  • 28:11clinical coordinator or a genetic counselor,
  • 28:13certainly by genetic counselor
  • 28:14if there's a mutation.
  • 28:15These results are discussed
  • 28:17within the team itself.
  • 28:18So these genetics clinical coordinators
  • 28:20have the full team input in terms of
  • 28:24results disclosures or we triage the
  • 28:26patient to see a genetic counselor.
  • 28:27And here it's for patients really
  • 28:29that are more complex,
  • 28:31whether it's unclear that they meet
  • 28:33NCCN guidelines for testing or really
  • 28:35mandated to see a genetic counselor
  • 28:37with which some insurances do do.
  • 28:39And then they're seen by
  • 28:40the genetic counselor.
  • 28:41The testing is ordered and the
  • 28:43insurance authorization is conducted
  • 28:45by our team and the results are
  • 28:47disclosed by the genetic counselor.
  • 28:49Now what has transpired over the
  • 28:51past year is a ruling by CMS that
  • 28:54stated that genetic tests must be
  • 28:57ordered by the physician or APP
  • 29:00who is treating and managing the
  • 29:03patient's medical problem or problems.
  • 29:05And they've clearly stated that tests
  • 29:07ordered by a genetic counselor would
  • 29:09not be considered reasonable or
  • 29:12medically necessary per this federal.
  • 29:14So this really you know it,
  • 29:17it is what it is and we've had to
  • 29:20adapt our processes to then meet
  • 29:23the federal compliance mandate.
  • 29:26So based on this,
  • 29:26what we've had to do is point of care
  • 29:29doesn't change of course because
  • 29:30that's happening in the physician
  • 29:32offices who are managing and treating
  • 29:34the patients and the testing is
  • 29:36being ordered by the physician there.
  • 29:38Where the processes had to change was
  • 29:40for fast track and for genetic counseling.
  • 29:42So in this process for
  • 29:44the Fast track program,
  • 29:46these are predominantly internal
  • 29:48to Smilo referring providers.
  • 29:50And So what we have done is set up
  • 29:53processes such that the genetics
  • 29:55team will input information for
  • 29:58genetic test ordering and pend
  • 30:00it in EPIC for the referring Dr.
  • 30:02to sign.
  • 30:02So one thing I'd like everyone
  • 30:04to just please be mindful of it.
  • 30:06In EPIC you're going to start to see
  • 30:09genetic test orders that need to be
  • 30:11signed if you're the referring Dr.
  • 30:13and of course testing cannot
  • 30:15be completed without those,
  • 30:17those sign offs in EPIC.
  • 30:20The other thing we've done is
  • 30:22for the patients that are seen
  • 30:24by a genetic counselor,
  • 30:25these patients can be a kind of in a
  • 30:29multitude of you know referral bases.
  • 30:31And So what we've done is created
  • 30:33different ways that we're handling
  • 30:36this part of the test ordering.
  • 30:37One is our genetics physicians are
  • 30:39seeing many of these patients and
  • 30:41combined visits with the genetic
  • 30:42counselors and then we are signing
  • 30:44off on the genetic test orders.
  • 30:47Another way that we're handling this is
  • 30:49in tandem with our genetics APRN with
  • 30:52SUSHMIL where the genetic counselor
  • 30:54sees the patient first and then Sue
  • 30:56will see the patient and be able to
  • 30:58sign the order for genetic testing.
  • 31:00There are still going to be patients
  • 31:02that need genetic test orders
  • 31:04signed by the referring provider.
  • 31:06So again, this would be where we would
  • 31:09have to upload the result into EPIC and
  • 31:11have the referring provider sign off on it.
  • 31:14If there's a referring
  • 31:15provider who is not on EPIC,
  • 31:16these are patients that we'd be
  • 31:17seeing by the genetics physicians
  • 31:19and we would be signing those orders.
  • 31:21So we've had to develop multiple
  • 31:23processes for signing up orders.
  • 31:24So please keep an eye out in your
  • 31:26EPIC in baskets for these things
  • 31:28coming your way for signature.
  • 31:30One other thing that we have to be
  • 31:32mindful of is that there are certain
  • 31:35insurances that require authorization
  • 31:37for genetic testing to be covered.
  • 31:39Some of these are shown here Tricare
  • 31:41Medicaid and Aetna as some of the key
  • 31:44insurance plans that require insurance
  • 31:46authorization to be completed to pay.
  • 31:49What happened is that those insurance
  • 31:51authorizations form once again have to
  • 31:53be signed by the referring provider.
  • 31:55So for example Medicaid those
  • 31:57signatures have to be fresh signatures.
  • 32:01We can't apply a signature to those
  • 32:04authorization forms on our end.
  • 32:05So we are having to re contact are
  • 32:08the referring doctors to sign these
  • 32:11insurance authorization forms for Medicaid,
  • 32:13for Tricare and Aetna.
  • 32:15We probably are going to be able to
  • 32:17sign the insurance forms if we get
  • 32:19a signature from the referring Dr.
  • 32:22So you're probably some of you are
  • 32:24probably starting to see some emails
  • 32:25coming back saying we need your
  • 32:27signature on this form and or please
  • 32:29provide your signature on a blank piece
  • 32:31of paper and we'll apply it you know
  • 32:34for these insurances to get these authorized.
  • 32:36Obviously this is really time
  • 32:38sensitive for these patients because
  • 32:40otherwise they could get a bill,
  • 32:42you know,
  • 32:42for their genetic testing and it could
  • 32:44be hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
  • 32:45So any way that we can work together to just
  • 32:49start collecting signatures would be huge.
  • 32:53I can talk to Doctor Billingsley,
  • 32:55you know,
  • 32:55at a different point on how to think
  • 32:57about doing this because we obviously
  • 32:58don't want to overburden clinical teams,
  • 33:00but at the same time we have to get these,
  • 33:01you know,
  • 33:02insurance authorizations signed off,
  • 33:04So changes in process,
  • 33:06but all for the sake of patient care.
  • 33:08So you know,
  • 33:09just making sure that we keep
  • 33:10that front of mind.
  • 33:11So we have set up an e-mail specifically
  • 33:16related to this compliance process.
  • 33:18We've sent out one general e-mail already
  • 33:21updating everyone about these processes.
  • 33:23Please e-mail this e-mail if
  • 33:25you have questions.
  • 33:26Of course, you could e-mail me
  • 33:28directly as well and we're going
  • 33:30around to different clinical teams
  • 33:31to give these presentations.
  • 33:33But we do look forward to working with you.
  • 33:35And thank you again for allowing
  • 33:37some time to bring this forward
  • 33:39here for this town Hall. Thank you,
  • 33:45Doctor. Gary, thank you.
  • 33:47I know you and your team have been
  • 33:51working feverishly to bring this
  • 33:53process forward and it just shows how
  • 33:55complicated our work is in a shifting
  • 33:58compliance and regulatory landscape.
  • 34:00I know there are going to be other questions.
  • 34:04You know, I think Renee will be
  • 34:07circulating the e-mail and I know
  • 34:09you will be coming back to meet
  • 34:11with teams as we move forward.
  • 34:14So great work, Manny.
  • 34:16Thank you for joining us.
  • 34:18As always, we are incredibly grateful for
  • 34:22the partnership with our pharmacy colleagues.
  • 34:25I know you're going to be updating us
  • 34:27on early release of medication orders.
  • 34:28So I think in the interest of
  • 34:31time press ahead.
  • 34:32Yes, I will share my screen.
  • 34:37OK everyone thank you for having me here
  • 34:41to share the early release of medication
  • 34:44procedure few before the holiday.
  • 34:47There's an e-mail had sent out to share
  • 34:51everybody about early release process.
  • 34:55Sorry I cannot advance my slides.
  • 35:01OK, here we go.
  • 35:03Yeah. So few weeks ago
  • 35:04we have shared the emails to communicate the
  • 35:07early release standard operation procedure.
  • 35:11This early release SOP is not new and and
  • 35:14in fact has been implemented since 2013.
  • 35:18We just share with everybody with the update
  • 35:21and but we take the opportunity here to
  • 35:25reiterate this topic and we talk about why
  • 35:28we need early release and how does it work.
  • 35:31And as you can see this graph,
  • 35:34it's clearly illustrated that there
  • 35:36is influx order coming through
  • 35:38within a short period of time.
  • 35:40So maturity order for the of the
  • 35:42day comes in within three hours.
  • 35:45So this can lead to a in efficient workflow
  • 35:48and prolonged patient waiting time.
  • 35:54The benefit of the early release process
  • 35:57has been shown in other Cancer Center
  • 35:59to it can reduce patient wait time,
  • 36:02improve workflow and patient experience
  • 36:05more importantly can help us to
  • 36:08improve infusion chair utilization.
  • 36:11So we since we have implemented this
  • 36:15SOP actually other cancer centre have
  • 36:17reached out to us over the years
  • 36:20to share our experience and also
  • 36:22get a copy of our SOP to implement
  • 36:25it to their cancer there too.
  • 36:27So in general medication selected
  • 36:29for early release,
  • 36:31it's considered as IV administrator
  • 36:33supportive care medications
  • 36:35such as pre medication,
  • 36:37anti medic hydration medication with
  • 36:40independent laboratory results such
  • 36:43as Tritusumab treatment regimen
  • 36:46containing consecutive treatment
  • 36:48days such as epoch days 2 to 4,
  • 36:52etoposides days 2:00 to 3:00.
  • 36:57So how does it work and this is
  • 36:59how we work that work for during
  • 37:02the proceeding treatment day,
  • 37:04nurses and pharmacists in the
  • 37:06clinic will collaborate to
  • 37:07determine appropriate medication
  • 37:09for early release by reviewing
  • 37:11the next treatment day schedule.
  • 37:13The nurse performs independent
  • 37:15review and release the medication.
  • 37:18The pharmacist perform independent
  • 37:20review and verify the medication.
  • 37:23Then the pharmacy will prepare
  • 37:25the medication in advance with the
  • 37:28consideration of drug stability
  • 37:30and cost on the treatment day prior
  • 37:33to administration that a different
  • 37:35infusion nurse will perform a second
  • 37:38review in addition to confirm with
  • 37:40the provider the plan to treat so.
  • 37:43As you can tell all these procedure
  • 37:46has not changed any of the standard
  • 37:49steps that for safety check.
  • 37:51So but it's to shift the some of
  • 37:53the work the day before to allow
  • 37:55the medication to be ready before
  • 37:58the patient come into treatment.
  • 38:02So we'll leave to any question.
  • 38:09Thank you, Manny.
  • 38:10I think there will likely be
  • 38:12some questions in our Q&A.
  • 38:14So I'm going to defer until that
  • 38:18time like Doctor Gary's presentation,
  • 38:20this is incredibly important and I'm
  • 38:23hoping that you and your team mates
  • 38:26will kind of make the rounds among the teens.
  • 38:29I'll just share from my perspective
  • 38:31there are a few things that we can
  • 38:34do that will improve patient and
  • 38:36nursing staff in few experience in
  • 38:38the infusion centers more than the
  • 38:41ability to get drugs to patients
  • 38:43quickly when they get in their chairs.
  • 38:46So this isn't really valuable work.
  • 38:50So more to come next.
  • 38:53Maddie Kaler has done amazing work
  • 38:56with her team over the past year
  • 38:59since she's been in this role,
  • 39:02building our portfolio of supportive
  • 39:05services including integrative medicine,
  • 39:07Reiki, nutrition,
  • 39:08a variety of things which enhance the
  • 39:12quality of life and experience for
  • 39:14patients along their care journey.
  • 39:17So Maddie's joined us today to
  • 39:19give us a variety of updates.
  • 39:21Thank you.
  • 39:26All right. Thank you for having me.
  • 39:28I'm very excited to speak with you about
  • 39:31the supportive care program here at Smilo.
  • 39:34And I have been leading this team
  • 39:36with my clinical colleagues,
  • 39:38Doctor Jennifer Capo and
  • 39:41Executive leadership Sonia Gross.
  • 39:42Also, I'm very excited to speak
  • 39:44with you about the the team.
  • 39:46So first and foremost, just a little bit
  • 39:49of some background on supportive care.
  • 39:51The multinational association of
  • 39:53supportive care and cancer defines
  • 39:56supportive care as the prevention
  • 39:58and management of the adverse
  • 40:00effects of cancer in its treatment.
  • 40:02This definition does include the
  • 40:04management of physical and psychological
  • 40:06symptoms and side effects across the
  • 40:09continuum of the cancer journey.
  • 40:11Which is really excited,
  • 40:12really exciting that they define the
  • 40:14whole continuum of cancer care because
  • 40:17that's exactly what our team does and
  • 40:19I'm very excited to kind of speak with
  • 40:21you a little bit more about it today,
  • 40:23kind of tapping into the
  • 40:25history of supportive care.
  • 40:26Supportive care really became kind
  • 40:29of well known kind of in the 1960s
  • 40:32and seventeen 1960s and 70s when
  • 40:36chemotherapy became more widely
  • 40:38used in oncology treatment and it
  • 40:41really focused really in the the
  • 40:44medical side effects of cancer.
  • 40:46And over time we've actually opened
  • 40:48up that definition to include a
  • 40:50lot of different facets as we look
  • 40:52at whole patient care.
  • 40:54We're taking into account now
  • 40:56the emotional well-being,
  • 40:57the psychosocial well-being,
  • 40:59the spiritual health and the
  • 41:01physical health of the patient.
  • 41:03So supportive care is really
  • 41:05encompassing all of these facets of
  • 41:08of cancer care in oncology patients.
  • 41:10So in research supportive care,
  • 41:13effective supportive care has actually
  • 41:14been seen to improve the quality of life,
  • 41:18decrease the symptom burden and then
  • 41:22increase survival, increase survival.
  • 41:24And then as it relates to
  • 41:27hospital operations,
  • 41:28effective supportive care has also been
  • 41:30seen to decrease hospital admissions and
  • 41:33decrease emergency department visits.
  • 41:35So in aligning that with some
  • 41:38of the surge issues that we are
  • 41:41now seeing at the hospital,
  • 41:43it really is you know holistically
  • 41:45looking at the the whole patient
  • 41:47and in preventative care as well.
  • 41:49So we were fortunate enough to
  • 41:52receive a grant from the Milbank
  • 41:54Foundation to launch a supportive
  • 41:57care access program here at Smilo.
  • 41:59And this program has now been
  • 42:01live for about a year and a half,
  • 42:03two years now and we are extremely
  • 42:06excited to partner with our
  • 42:08clinical colleagues in making this
  • 42:10team come a reality.
  • 42:12So the supportive care team
  • 42:14is a team of lay navigators.
  • 42:16So it's non clinical navigators that
  • 42:19really conduct phone screenings with
  • 42:22patients as they complete their new
  • 42:24patient visit here at Smilo and
  • 42:26assess where they're at and kind of
  • 42:29understand if they have any needs
  • 42:31that we can potentially meet with our
  • 42:34supportive programs that we have here.
  • 42:37So on this screen you can see that
  • 42:39patients that can actually come to
  • 42:41us in two different ways and that's
  • 42:44they themselves can self refer to
  • 42:46us or where where you all come
  • 42:48in in partnership with us is
  • 42:51that our clinical teams can refer to
  • 42:54us in EPIC which is super important.
  • 42:57So we conduct phone screenings
  • 42:59with patients and then we assess
  • 43:01for eligibility for 15 programs.
  • 43:04We have here at Smilo that you can
  • 43:06see on the lower half of the of the
  • 43:09screen and we will refer to these
  • 43:11teams accordingly if patient's
  • 43:13needs align with eligibility and
  • 43:15criteria for all of those 15 teams.
  • 43:18And what this does is not only
  • 43:20does it meet the patient's needs,
  • 43:22but it also does increase the
  • 43:24utilization of our wonderful supportive
  • 43:26care programs that we have here.
  • 43:28I think it's important to note that a
  • 43:30lot of the patients didn't know that we
  • 43:32had some of these supportive care programs.
  • 43:34So it really is a great means to
  • 43:37to advocate for these programs and
  • 43:39actually help increase the education
  • 43:41for patients on the supportive
  • 43:44care programs that we do have here.
  • 43:46So when you refer to us in EPIC,
  • 43:50you can refer to us in two different ways.
  • 43:52We've made it easy so you can find
  • 43:55us in a smart set as I've outlined
  • 43:57on this screen and this,
  • 43:59This smart set is available in the Smilo
  • 44:02Supportive Care Referrals smart set.
  • 44:04So we're an easy check box for you,
  • 44:08but you can also find us when
  • 44:10you type in Smilo Supportive Care
  • 44:12referral services as well.
  • 44:14And this actually is a very important
  • 44:16way that you can get your patients
  • 44:19in touch with with us because
  • 44:21this serves as the starting point
  • 44:23for our contact with patients.
  • 44:25When we reach out to patients usually
  • 44:27at the onset of their diagnosis,
  • 44:30we're not really expecting them to
  • 44:31be open minded or interested in any
  • 44:33any of the supportive care programs
  • 44:35at that point because we understand
  • 44:37that they may be overwhelmed with
  • 44:40a new oncology diagnosis.
  • 44:42However, when we usually talk with patients,
  • 44:44we give them the option for a later
  • 44:47call back and we've noticed that
  • 44:49you know two months in three months
  • 44:51into their oncology treatment,
  • 44:53they really are more open minded
  • 44:55understanding and it will actually
  • 44:58accept referrals as they are
  • 45:00encountering different challenges
  • 45:01along their cancer treatment journey.
  • 45:04So the referral and EPIC from you
  • 45:05all is really a great starting point
  • 45:07for a relationship that we have
  • 45:09with the patient throughout their
  • 45:10continuum of their treatment plan.
  • 45:12So your I can't under site that enough
  • 45:15that truly the partnership with our
  • 45:17clinical teams is very important
  • 45:19in making sure that patients have
  • 45:21what they need from an outpatient
  • 45:23perspective throughout the whole
  • 45:26duration of their oncology treatment.
  • 45:29So we are located on site.
  • 45:31For those of you who are interested or
  • 45:35in the area or would like to stop by,
  • 45:37we are located in the Patient and
  • 45:40Family Resource Center on NP1.
  • 45:42Our doors open Monday through Friday,
  • 45:448:00 to 4:30.
  • 45:45I encourage you to come on in our great
  • 45:48supportive Care Referral Coordinator.
  • 45:50Her name is Solitaire Adorno
  • 45:52and she is a wealth
  • 45:53of information for all
  • 45:55things supportive care.
  • 45:56So if you have patients who are
  • 45:58interested in learning a little bit
  • 46:00about everything, our door is open.
  • 46:01If you yourself would like to learn anything
  • 46:04about the supportive care programs,
  • 46:06the Patient Family Resource Center
  • 46:08is a good first place to stop by.
  • 46:10We have a wealth of resources
  • 46:12both written and and and printed
  • 46:15material for you all to take
  • 46:17and and read at your leisure.
  • 46:20But we're we also do have a centralized
  • 46:23phone and e-mail address so that's
  • 46:25how patients find us usually.
  • 46:28We do have rack cards.
  • 46:29So for any of your clinics or areas
  • 46:31if you would like our information,
  • 46:32I would be happy to send you
  • 46:35interoffice use some rack cards.
  • 46:37But we also do have an online
  • 46:38website too where it highlights a
  • 46:39little bit about about our teams,
  • 46:41but it also goes and takes a deeper
  • 46:43dive into the 15 teams that we
  • 46:45are fortunate enough to support.
  • 46:47So thank you all for your partnership
  • 46:49so far and this team is growing
  • 46:52and we're really excited to partner
  • 46:55with all of our clinical colleagues
  • 46:57across all disease disk plans and
  • 46:59continue to educate patients and
  • 47:01put them in touch with the with
  • 47:04the supportive care programs here.
  • 47:06So with that I'm open for any questions.
  • 47:11Maddie,
  • 47:11there is a couple questions in the chat,
  • 47:13one for clarification on
  • 47:15what patients are covered.
  • 47:17It seems that someone's asking about
  • 47:20Bridgeport in particular and the other is
  • 47:23in relation to a financial counseling.
  • 47:25Is there any of these services that
  • 47:27provide any financial counseling?
  • 47:31Yeah, so our financial or our
  • 47:33supportive care resources,
  • 47:34we have completed our financial assistance
  • 47:38kind of how TOS and things of that sort.
  • 47:41So we do have a partnership with
  • 47:42our finance and billing office.
  • 47:44So for patients who are inquiring about
  • 47:46payment plans and things like that,
  • 47:48we can definitely put them in touch
  • 47:51with with our colleagues in the SBO.
  • 47:53I should say we are eligible
  • 47:55for all patients of Smilo that's
  • 47:57across the Smilo network,
  • 47:59across all Smilo, SMILO sites as well.
  • 48:03Everyone can utilize us.
  • 48:10I think there's one other
  • 48:13question from Paula.
  • 48:15Thank you, Paula. She asked Mehdi,
  • 48:18within the 15 services available to
  • 48:20our SMILO patients, is there any,
  • 48:22did we cover this financial counseling?
  • 48:24Yes. OK, thank you.
  • 48:28Could I ask doctor Gary one question?
  • 48:36What,
  • 48:40how, how can our referring physicians
  • 48:46is there anything we can do or the APPS
  • 48:49can do to engage with payers up front
  • 48:55or early on so that you and your team
  • 48:59are not doing as much back end work.
  • 49:03Is there any kind of, in other words,
  • 49:07preemptive documentation that we
  • 49:10can be submitting with the with the
  • 49:13order to to kind of short circuit
  • 49:17the review process so it becomes
  • 49:20so it's less laborious? Yeah,
  • 49:22no, it's a really great question.
  • 49:24I mean that's what we've been
  • 49:28thinking about to be truthful.
  • 49:31It's a subset of the patients that
  • 49:33have genetic testing ordered that
  • 49:35need those authorizations done.
  • 49:37You know it's not all of them,
  • 49:39the laboratories are the ones
  • 49:41that submit to insurances, right.
  • 49:44So it's happening kind of outside
  • 49:45of our domain for coverage of the
  • 49:49cost for right now it's those
  • 49:51kind of three big insurance plan.
  • 49:52I think what would help us the most
  • 49:54is if we could collect signatures,
  • 49:58it seems like that's a laborious process.
  • 50:01But if we could connect with say
  • 50:03clinic nurses or other clinical staff
  • 50:05who could garner the signatures for
  • 50:08us of the physicians in that team,
  • 50:10that would be a huge help to us because
  • 50:14it is a subset of the patients that when
  • 50:15it arises it's like suddenly time sensitive,
  • 50:17you know, so that way we could,
  • 50:21we could just go forward, you know,
  • 50:22so that's one thing we've been trying to do.
  • 50:25So if there's a way to collect that
  • 50:27information of who are the key individuals
  • 50:29per clinic for us to connect with,
  • 50:31that would be a really,
  • 50:33really helpful thing for us And then we
  • 50:35would be able to make make those links,
  • 50:36get those signatures and
  • 50:37have them on our files,
  • 50:39you know, to do that.
  • 50:40Aside from that,
  • 50:41I can ask our, you know,
  • 50:43lead genetic counselors as well to
  • 50:44your more directly to your question,
  • 50:46if there's other ways around it.
  • 50:50That's helpful. Thank you.
  • 50:51I think we can work on those things.
  • 51:04No, I I'm going to take moderator's privilege
  • 51:08and ask one other question. Doctor Park,
  • 51:16we refer as clinicians, you know a host
  • 51:19of different patients to the department.
  • 51:25Is it is it at all helpful if we
  • 51:29ask specifically for biologic
  • 51:30guided radiation therapy,
  • 51:32if we're if we think it may be helpful
  • 51:35or do we just leave it to you and
  • 51:37your team to to really decide what
  • 51:40patients would be most appropriately
  • 51:42treated with that therapy? Yeah,
  • 51:45that's a very good question.
  • 51:46You know there are a lot of
  • 51:47restrictions at least at this point
  • 51:49in terms of who's eligible or not.
  • 51:50So certainly if you would
  • 51:51like to bring it up there,
  • 51:53you're more than welcome to ask about that.
  • 51:55When you're making a referral
  • 51:56or the to call the person that
  • 51:58you that you're referring to,
  • 51:59just ask about it.
  • 52:01But at the same time,
  • 52:02you know there's a lot of legwork
  • 52:03on our end that sometimes we
  • 52:05don't know right up front either.
  • 52:06Sometimes we can make a determination
  • 52:08based on what's available already,
  • 52:09but sometimes we we do need to go
  • 52:10through the process a little bit
  • 52:12in terms of some of the imaging
  • 52:13only sessions and some other the
  • 52:15the simulation sessions to to
  • 52:16model things before we really
  • 52:17know if they're eligible.
  • 52:18So I think the important thing
  • 52:20is when you're referring to not
  • 52:22necessarily promise the patient that
  • 52:23they will be getting BGRT since many
  • 52:26of them won't actually be eligible.
  • 52:28But that being said,
  • 52:29if you'd like to to to to mention
  • 52:31that this may be a possibility
  • 52:32for them without promising it,
  • 52:34that certainly could be helpful.
  • 52:38Terrific.
  • 52:46Let me just make sure we're not
  • 52:48missing any questions. I think we,
  • 52:53we do have some follow up work to do
  • 52:56with Bridgeport Hospital and I think
  • 52:59we've covered a lot of territory.
  • 53:02Thank you to all of our panelists.
  • 53:04Tracy, is there anything I've missed?
  • 53:07Do you any, any closing comments or
  • 53:09things to add we could maybe give
  • 53:11people a few minutes back this evening.
  • 53:14I'm sure they would appreciate that.
  • 53:15No, I I just want to thank
  • 53:16everyone for their time.
  • 53:17I think these were great topics
  • 53:19and you know hopefully we'd also
  • 53:21like to ask if people have things
  • 53:23that they would like to hear about,
  • 53:25please you know e-mail Kevin or myself
  • 53:26or Lori or Eric and let us know.
  • 53:28We really want to make this engaging
  • 53:30and useful to the participants,
  • 53:32so we'd be happy to hear your
  • 53:34feedback on that as well.
  • 53:39And Tracy, if I could just add to
  • 53:41that because we've talked about
  • 53:43this recently topics, but also
  • 53:46we know that it's hard to find any
  • 53:49great time that works for everybody.
  • 53:51So we would love to get
  • 53:53feedback on other ways
  • 53:55in which we can
  • 53:58reach folks
  • 54:00to to to
  • 54:01be able to generate as much
  • 54:04involvement engagement as as
  • 54:05possible. We do record these
  • 54:08and would strongly
  • 54:09encourage that you encourage your teams,
  • 54:12your colleagues to take the time
  • 54:15to go in and and look at
  • 54:17what's been discussed
  • 54:18because it's there is a lot of really
  • 54:20important information that is shared and
  • 54:23we certainly experienced that this
  • 54:26evening. So that would be another
  • 54:28area that would be of interest
  • 54:30for us to hear about.
  • 54:38Thank you everyone.
  • 54:39Have a great evening.
  • 54:41We appreciate all you do.
  • 54:44Thank you. Bye, bye.