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Translational Research in Breast Cancer: Emerging Role of Immunotherapy, Novel Targets and a Hidden Dimension of Cancer Biology

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Translational Research in Breast Cancer: Emerging Role of Immunotherapy, Novel Targets and a Hidden Dimension of Cancer Biology

June 16, 2020

Yale Cancer Center Grand Rounds | June 9, 2020

Lajos Pusztai, MD, DPhil

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  • 00:00Both in cancer and and obviously
  • 00:03immunology and response to viruses.
  • 00:06And we'll start with our first speaker,
  • 00:09doctor lash boost.
  • 00:10I allows is, you know,
  • 00:12is a professor of Medicine at
  • 00:14the school of Madison at the US.
  • 00:17Will Medison Co.
  • 00:18Leader of the genetics,
  • 00:20genomics and epigenetics research program
  • 00:22and director of Translational research
  • 00:24for breast cancer in our Cancer Center.
  • 00:26Having received his medical degree
  • 00:29in Budapest and his subsequent
  • 00:31doctorate at the University of
  • 00:34Oxford blouse is really committed.
  • 00:36His career to really understanding the
  • 00:39biology of breast cancer and leveraging
  • 00:42that understanding to fundamentally
  • 00:44improving our way to deliver more efficient,
  • 00:48more effective,
  • 00:49and more successful clinical care.
  • 00:51You know,
  • 00:52through his laboratory work,
  • 00:54his work in translation,
  • 00:56Medison And frankly,
  • 00:57his leadership of clinical
  • 00:59trials in clinic research,
  • 01:00which have not only investigated new
  • 01:02drugs but also leverage new technologies
  • 01:04to better define and predict how
  • 01:07women will best respond to therapy.
  • 01:09He really has been the triple thread
  • 01:11and actually have academic Medison,
  • 01:13and we're pleased to have him today
  • 01:15to share his work in translation and
  • 01:18research in breast cancer so loud.
  • 01:20Thank you for Evergreen speak today.
  • 01:23Thank you Charlie, for them the
  • 01:25opportunity to to give a brief update
  • 01:28on some of the translation of projects
  • 01:30that we actually have been involved in
  • 01:32the past few years here at Yale. Um?
  • 01:42So this is my a disclosure slide
  • 01:45and I would like to cover 3 areas.
  • 01:49When is exploiting the emu micro environment
  • 01:51of a breast cancer for therapeutic purposes,
  • 01:54some potential metabolic vulnerabilities
  • 01:56in breast cancer I think exists and I'd
  • 02:00like to challenge you to think and you
  • 02:02knew very about cancer predisposition
  • 02:05or cancer risk category cancer risk.
  • 02:07So the road from an idea to a clinical trial
  • 02:11or clinical trial result is really very
  • 02:14long and often times very sort of tortuous.
  • 02:17So as an example,
  • 02:19about 10 years ago we published this
  • 02:21paper very show at the presence of
  • 02:24immune cells in primary tumors,
  • 02:26either ER positive or triple negative,
  • 02:28or her two positive breast cancer service
  • 02:30usually associated with prognosis.
  • 02:32Let's outcome in patients receiving
  • 02:34order surgery.
  • 02:34Now the treatment and surgery so
  • 02:37that people was published in 2010.
  • 02:39I'd like to remind you that in 2010
  • 02:41there is no effective, you know,
  • 02:44therapy in any disease type.
  • 02:45So we cause this the closing sentence.
  • 02:48This paper was, well,
  • 02:49it remains unknown whether the
  • 02:51Indians selectivity is simply
  • 02:52associated with with a better outcome,
  • 02:54or it's really the cause of
  • 02:56the battle outcome in disease.
  • 02:58So around the same time in another
  • 03:01project with a postdoc in my lab,
  • 03:03we also looked at what sort of biological
  • 03:06processes or or gene expressions,
  • 03:08signatures or patterns are
  • 03:09associated with the response.
  • 03:10Show me legend.
  • 03:11Chemotherapy.
  • 03:12Sony rejoin chemotherapy is really a
  • 03:14perfect setting where you can correlate
  • 03:16a particular biomarker with sensitive
  • 03:17to the treatment because you can
  • 03:19directly measure the effect of the
  • 03:21treatment at the time of the surgery.
  • 03:23Patients have no residual
  • 03:24cancer after the chemo.
  • 03:25They tend to do really,
  • 03:27really well and we call this
  • 03:29pathological complete response.
  • 03:30So be selling.
  • 03:31This is again a number of immune signatures.
  • 03:33Are Indian related markers fell
  • 03:35out so obviously the big question
  • 03:37is so is this a mere Association
  • 03:39or A cause and effect and?
  • 03:41Right around that time,
  • 03:42in the second half of 2010,
  • 03:45the 1st paper came out in the New
  • 03:47England Journal of Medicine and eating
  • 03:49woman at that have shown that actually
  • 03:52manipulating an immune checkpoint,
  • 03:54so we'd illumi map could improve the
  • 03:56survival of patients in metastatic Melanoma,
  • 03:59so that really created an opportunity to test
  • 04:01this Kozera fact versus Amir Association.
  • 04:042012,
  • 04:04which is actually the year
  • 04:06when I joined the air.
  • 04:07We proposed the new edgmont trial to be
  • 04:10an S and ask them would repeal me map.
  • 04:12It could improve the pathological
  • 04:14complete response rate when
  • 04:15combined with chemotherapy.
  • 04:16So PMS said, well,
  • 04:17now that's a good idea,
  • 04:19but it's really too toxic and
  • 04:21it's way too early.
  • 04:22So it went to look and proposed them
  • 04:25the same thing and you ain't even prior,
  • 04:27but also for good measure,
  • 04:29he asked them whether they would
  • 04:31be interested in Edgmont Prial,
  • 04:32since since a lot of immune cells
  • 04:34in the microenvironment predicted
  • 04:35better outcome of the surgery.
  • 04:37So for the new regiment they actually
  • 04:39sent me this lovely letter that I
  • 04:41thought it's interesting to read, right?
  • 04:43So read the actual date first,
  • 04:45so it's 18th of September 2012.
  • 04:47The ordinary nice,
  • 04:48polite rejection that well,
  • 04:49we are unable to provide
  • 04:50either funding or drug for this
  • 04:52project because of the unclear.
  • 04:54FDA regularly path forward.
  • 04:56Either there is well,
  • 04:59sort of tried the road for edge
  • 05:01event registrations and they agreed
  • 05:03to do an agent trial which led to
  • 05:06this spoke as 1418 konnakol trial,
  • 05:08so not as 40 actually means
  • 05:11that it was started in 2014,
  • 05:13so it took about two years to the NCI
  • 05:15to really put together this large of
  • 05:18the randomized registration trial.
  • 05:20After Merck supported it in
  • 05:222012 in principle.
  • 05:23So I'm kind of tenacious and not
  • 05:26very aggressive, but I I tenacious.
  • 05:28So I supposed to say my dear again
  • 05:30to Med immune in the same year,
  • 05:33maybe even at that time was
  • 05:34a startup company.
  • 05:35They had do volume app and now they're
  • 05:37part of easiest is Erica and being
  • 05:40smaller than they actually said?
  • 05:41Yeah, why not?
  • 05:42So we propose them to studies
  • 05:44and they agreed to both.
  • 05:46What was the single agent,
  • 05:47I mean a single arm phase, one phase,
  • 05:49two trial at Yale, and the randomized trial.
  • 05:52So the I spy consortium combined it all,
  • 05:54Apple event added to pocket back.
  • 05:56So our study at year was just simply.
  • 05:58So.
  • 05:59Hum.
  • 05:59So I could be presented last
  • 06:03year the results of the year
  • 06:06phase one phase two trial.
  • 06:09There's a historical interest because
  • 06:10this was the first knew edgmont even
  • 06:13oncology trial anywhere in the world.
  • 06:15So the first patient was enrolled in 2015.
  • 06:17It was a phase one phase two trial,
  • 06:20and because this has never been
  • 06:22done in the collective setting
  • 06:23combined with chemotherapy food,
  • 06:25though,
  • 06:25is chemotherapy before surgery FT
  • 06:27require that the first three patients
  • 06:29is watch for 9 months each week
  • 06:31for the next lot could be entered.
  • 06:34So it looks like it was a long
  • 06:36time to complete.
  • 06:37The results showed that the
  • 06:39pathological complete eradication
  • 06:41rate in the rest was about 44%.
  • 06:43The same chemotherapy regimen
  • 06:44in a similar trial,
  • 06:46and by by the sea by smog.
  • 06:48Southwestern college group resulted
  • 06:49in a PCR or pathological covered
  • 06:51response with different 29%.
  • 06:53So we also noted that there,
  • 06:55as you would expect,
  • 06:56you cancel each other higher PD
  • 06:59leg and one expression or more
  • 07:01sites at a higher PCR eight more
  • 07:03closer to 60% rather than.
  • 07:0544 So remember,
  • 07:07parallel with this and the other study was
  • 07:10running through the I spy that I was so.
  • 07:13Lad and he showed the results of the
  • 07:16Plenary session of the EC are this year on.
  • 07:19The study shows 9 the randomized setting
  • 07:21that indeed leave this door vulnerable.
  • 07:23A product combination improved the
  • 07:25pathological can't response rate
  • 07:26in both the triple negative group,
  • 07:29which was the results were
  • 07:30very eerily similar in terms
  • 07:32of the PCI rate, 47 versus 44% in
  • 07:35our little negative study at Yale,
  • 07:37and we also notice that
  • 07:39actually this drug also work.
  • 07:41That is combination worked.
  • 07:42It was added to chemotherapy. You have to.
  • 07:45I mean it hormone receptor HR stands
  • 07:47for hormone receptor resolution,
  • 07:49receptor positive disease.
  • 07:50However, the result might this reason
  • 07:53why this was picked for a plenary
  • 07:55session is actually in the next slide,
  • 07:58so we stumbled upon a remarkably sort of
  • 08:01simple and clear way to isolate out among
  • 08:04the estrogen receptor positive tumors,
  • 08:06the ones which really benefited
  • 08:08versus those who did not.
  • 08:10There was no editing benefit.
  • 08:12So if you split these estrogen
  • 08:15receptor hormone receptor positive
  • 08:16group into two more likely subtypes,
  • 08:19let me call your MP1 and MP2MP one
  • 08:22this crap sort of Mamma print.
  • 08:25The lower end of the moment I grew
  • 08:27up in the MP two is the Momma Prince
  • 08:31Super High score on my printer.
  • 08:33Similar sort of predictor that we used
  • 08:35to to identify patients who benefit
  • 08:37from Edgmont chemotherapy in hormone
  • 08:39receptor positive diseases score.
  • 08:41So what we're showing here that this
  • 08:43core itself has a meaning and just
  • 08:45being called high risk or or benefiting
  • 08:47from chemotherapy is valuable,
  • 08:50but you actually can also split this look
  • 08:52into that really super sensitive to adding.
  • 08:55Uh, in Indian checkpoint
  • 08:57inhibitor to the chemotherapy.
  • 08:58So in that group,
  • 09:00the pathological CR equals 64% versus 22%.
  • 09:03In the chemotherapy alone.
  • 09:05So what is this MP group?
  • 09:07So this NP group actually is
  • 09:09the group which has a very high
  • 09:11proliferation and the relatively
  • 09:13low estrogen receptors signaling,
  • 09:15or estrogen receptor sort of activity.
  • 09:17Read out that you can capture
  • 09:19Biostar generating wearing jeans,
  • 09:20and that's an important sort of
  • 09:22piece of information to design the
  • 09:24follow-up registration trial for
  • 09:26base that we have working with.
  • 09:28Because this guy proliferation
  • 09:30most regions signaling group is
  • 09:32the group that is the least likely
  • 09:34to benefit from endocrine therapy.
  • 09:36Gotta hand it most likely to
  • 09:38benefit chemotherapy,
  • 09:38and we think that this benefit
  • 09:40could be further augmented by
  • 09:42by adding indoor follow map.
  • 09:44So we want to get back to this
  • 09:46letter in September 2012 from work.
  • 09:49So a year later, in September 30th,
  • 09:512013,
  • 09:51the FDA approved the first sort of
  • 09:53drug to be based on pathological
  • 09:56company response rate in breast cancer,
  • 09:58and that was purchased.
  • 09:59So purchasing have improved the
  • 10:01pathological computer response rate
  • 10:02in her two positive disease and
  • 10:04lettered registration of this drug.
  • 10:06So not respecting the idea,
  • 10:08and they actually lounge the large
  • 10:10randomized trial with a pathological CRS,
  • 10:12their endpoint, and to their credit,
  • 10:14they invited me back.
  • 10:16To the app.
  • 10:18Leadership of the trial and the
  • 10:21results were actually published this
  • 10:23year in the new invention of Madison
  • 10:26because it did confirm that indeed,
  • 10:28adding parallelism after chemotherapy
  • 10:31improves the pathological computer
  • 10:33education rate improved the
  • 10:35recurrence free survival even after
  • 10:3818 months of median follow up.
  • 10:40So this is the research
  • 10:42study that sort of was
  • 10:43largely based on these observations.
  • 10:45Remember 10 years ago, so it took six.
  • 10:48It looks 40 years to actually start this
  • 10:50study another six years to complete it,
  • 10:52and it would have been completed by now,
  • 10:55not for the coded.
  • 10:56So it has accrued 923 patients out of 1000
  • 11:00and the results probably will be become
  • 11:02available in the next two to three years.
  • 11:05So so some cancers that high,
  • 11:08you know, you know.
  • 11:10Union presence know why
  • 11:11so often suffer numbers.
  • 11:13Medical student at Yale took on
  • 11:15this project to actually look
  • 11:17into the molecular background,
  • 11:19or why sometimes have a
  • 11:21lot of lymphocytes at this.
  • 11:22Last one is now medical country
  • 11:25fellow at Sloan Kettering.
  • 11:26So we did these families pcga let
  • 11:28me show that many other people
  • 11:30did before that triple negative
  • 11:32cancer's had a higher notation count,
  • 11:35highly antigen mode and more
  • 11:37cytotoxic T cells.
  • 11:38However,
  • 11:38when you look at the actual group On its own,
  • 11:42like triple negative disease or ER
  • 11:44positive cancer, her two positive cancer.
  • 11:46These associations suddenly flip.
  • 11:47This is a correlation matrix.
  • 11:49I don't expect you to see the numbers,
  • 11:52but the colors indicate you the
  • 11:54the positive correlation when
  • 11:56it's Brown and it's blue,
  • 11:57it's negative and anti correlation
  • 11:59and the deeper the color,
  • 12:01the higher the correlation value.
  • 12:02So you can see that the Indian signatures
  • 12:05are highly correlated with one another.
  • 12:07But on the other hand,
  • 12:09is Genomic metrics of generic
  • 12:11complexities such as.
  • 12:12Mutation load or New Antigen Lord
  • 12:14or deletions or amplifications,
  • 12:16loads or como complexity.
  • 12:17We actually are inversely associated
  • 12:19with immune Indian presence in
  • 12:21triple negative disease and disease,
  • 12:23so that was pretty counterintuitive.
  • 12:25Counter intuitive in 2017.
  • 12:27OK,
  • 12:27so you're moving in says you have a simpler.
  • 12:31We can suggest the fewer than
  • 12:33your hand surgeons are.
  • 12:34So when I see things like this,
  • 12:37I try to confirm it.
  • 12:39So we reached out collaborator and
  • 12:41friend Thomas card and ask him to
  • 12:44actually replicate this or with a
  • 12:46different methodology and Thomas
  • 12:48actually find exact same thing that
  • 12:50in primary triple negative disease,
  • 12:52the fewer the immune cells they hire.
  • 12:55The Genomic heterogeneity and
  • 12:56the worst prognosis. So worse.
  • 12:58Prognosis means that you have a
  • 13:00higher probability for methods.
  • 13:02This is so and let us do this hypothesis
  • 13:05that maybe the metastatic lesions
  • 13:07are actually immune refugees or or escapes.
  • 13:10So there are more immune in Earth
  • 13:13that Michael Environment is more
  • 13:15immune inert and these three
  • 13:16brilliant woman took on this project
  • 13:19or parasitically was a visiting
  • 13:21scientist from Hungary or so with.
  • 13:23Smoking baby that his lab in Charlotte.
  • 13:27With me and.
  • 13:28More Gerstein so we rounded up samples
  • 13:30which will pair primaries and meds and
  • 13:33also a separate Court of primaries.
  • 13:36And that's not from the same patient,
  • 13:38and subjected them to a whole series
  • 13:41of molecular studies to test it in.
  • 13:43You micro environment is the
  • 13:45same or different,
  • 13:46so this is just really
  • 13:47examples of three sort of
  • 13:49simple and straightforward
  • 13:50findings with teal comes the tumor.
  • 13:52Infiltrating info sites are lower in
  • 13:54maximum primary tumors in matched
  • 13:56and unmatched chords be dealing.
  • 13:58Expression is the same, it slower.
  • 14:00In in the matter equations and
  • 14:02also a whole lot of different
  • 14:04Indian signatures are all lower,
  • 14:06consistently showing that there are less
  • 14:08Indians and less activity in the breast.
  • 14:11Cancer metastatic micro environment.
  • 14:12Why don't was really interesting though?
  • 14:15Is that while most of the
  • 14:17emu markers went down,
  • 14:19some of the Indian targets actually
  • 14:21remain high or or even increased
  • 14:23in the meta static environments.
  • 14:25And these IO targets are potential
  • 14:27good set of candidates for offer.
  • 14:30Testing them in the meta static setting,
  • 14:32either alone or in combination.
  • 14:34Also in combination with established agents.
  • 14:37So we selected the group of this
  • 14:39preserved IO targets for a clinical trial
  • 14:42that we hope to conduct this support.
  • 14:45Clinical trials it's called rustic
  • 14:46and this is sort of a scheme of it.
  • 14:49And again,
  • 14:50this takes this immune targets that we
  • 14:52preserved in the meta static setting
  • 14:54and testing in the clinic whether
  • 14:56they really have a functional role.
  • 14:59In suppressing the new Micro Hood,
  • 15:00so because of lack of time I
  • 15:02can't really talk about all the
  • 15:04other Indian projects every day,
  • 15:06but I just thought I list them here
  • 15:08so we did compare changes in the
  • 15:10micro environment before and after
  • 15:12therapy and the shouts only published.
  • 15:14This give us some ideas what to add
  • 15:16to Pembrolizumab Order Volume app to
  • 15:18make the treatment even more effective
  • 15:20than you actually and setting.
  • 15:22Homes we also compared to same
  • 15:24day the immune reach,
  • 15:25triple negative and the energy or
  • 15:28positive Kansas to see that there is
  • 15:30differences in their micro environments
  • 15:32and that was done by Paso mirror
  • 15:35medical students who is now a resident
  • 15:37at the Harvard system the same way.
  • 15:40So we did similar comparisons
  • 15:42by by race and King blindness.
  • 15:44Scientists in my lab is working or not.
  • 15:47Of data from a number of different new
  • 15:50agent trials that seems to do well.
  • 15:52Map kind of what precisely
  • 15:54defined predictors,
  • 15:54and he rosenblit is Medical College
  • 15:56of fellow with a very nice people and
  • 15:59actually looking at in a large pool
  • 16:01of data from Foundation Medicine.
  • 16:03Be like an expression across different
  • 16:05meta static sites in breast cancer.
  • 16:07And there are some really substantial
  • 16:09differences in people like an
  • 16:11expression depending on what site
  • 16:13you are actually sampling.
  • 16:14I'm going to move on to something else
  • 16:17that really got me excited in the past.
  • 16:19So if you a few months so.
  • 16:21Many metabolic processes are catalyzed
  • 16:23by multiple different isozymes or or
  • 16:25proteins that really capitalizes.
  • 16:26Same enzymatic reaction.
  • 16:27Normal cells usually have many of these,
  • 16:30and oftentimes in cancer you actually
  • 16:31see that one of the isoforms become dominant,
  • 16:34so that's the schema on this figure, right?
  • 16:37So normal tissue is both sides.
  • 16:39When I sent to our expressed in cancer,
  • 16:41I just have one becomes a dominant
  • 16:44and the other
  • 16:45one is lost. So we asked how often do we
  • 16:47see this in cancer and do this sort of isis
  • 16:51and expression changes could could harbor.
  • 16:53Or or include enzymes that we could target
  • 16:57metabolically somaca March secret visiting
  • 16:59scientist faculty from from a Polish
  • 17:02University to this project on and device.
  • 17:05This sort of strategy to
  • 17:07look at humanizing forms.
  • 17:09Isozymes managed matched primary
  • 17:11tumors in the metastatic lesions
  • 17:14sorry match the normal tissue.
  • 17:16The DC area across 14 different cancer
  • 17:19types where this was available than the
  • 17:21validated the results in cell lines.
  • 17:23Make sure that this is really
  • 17:25observed in the purest system and
  • 17:27not just an artifact of difference.
  • 17:29He still different issue compositions
  • 17:31and then says the functionality
  • 17:33in this depth map data which is
  • 17:36basically complete knockdown of all
  • 17:37human jeans in about 7 or 8 cell
  • 17:39lines and then the conference hits.
  • 17:41We validated in the manual screen.
  • 17:43This is an example for you
  • 17:45how this exactly looks.
  • 17:47404 Kansas so this is Csea enzyme.
  • 17:522 forms ACA&B.
  • 17:53Plots show you that how they still the ACA,
  • 17:57which is the red and be which is the blue,
  • 18:00had the expression a normal and an action.
  • 18:03Cancer tissues and you can see that
  • 18:05the Blues all go down and cancel.
  • 18:07That means that the expression
  • 18:09of this is lost,
  • 18:10whereas the red remains stable
  • 18:11and the red is the sea.
  • 18:13So this thing this is a
  • 18:15potentially interesting target.
  • 18:16So when you look at this across
  • 18:18different cancer types and
  • 18:19indeed app map validation data,
  • 18:21then actually what really fell out on the
  • 18:23top is this questionnaire carboxylase.
  • 18:25Which show this loss of isoenzyme
  • 18:28diversity intro different cancer
  • 18:30types and was socially but nine
  • 18:33different cell lines and each cancer
  • 18:35types in in the depth map so that
  • 18:38map has like several dozens of cell
  • 18:40lines for a particular cancer type,
  • 18:43like breast cancer.
  • 18:44Nine of these showed the same
  • 18:47loss of heterozygosity,
  • 18:48loss of diversity as we
  • 18:50saw in the human data.
  • 18:52Different cancer types.
  • 18:54And in this case is also validated,
  • 18:57so most of the cell lines there
  • 18:59where the CSC was knocked out.
  • 19:01If it had the dominant expression,
  • 19:03it really impact viability.
  • 19:04But the real kicker is that when we
  • 19:07look up what is known about this,
  • 19:09it turns out that Pfizer has a drug that
  • 19:12they put through phase one and phase
  • 19:14two trials for diabetes and fatty liver,
  • 19:17and actually showed all the
  • 19:19metabolic effects that we expected.
  • 19:20But they discontinued development
  • 19:21last year or two years ago
  • 19:23because of thrombocytopenia,
  • 19:24which is wonderful.
  • 19:26Because don't beside opinion
  • 19:27through megakaryocytes really rely
  • 19:29on the normal lipid synthesis,
  • 19:30because from both sides bought off and
  • 19:33every time I turn both sides come off
  • 19:36from the surface supermodel career site,
  • 19:38it takes lipids.
  • 19:39Membranes made it so we answered
  • 19:41the proof that is really works
  • 19:43the way it's supposed.
  • 19:45So the Anthony to collaboration with
  • 19:47Pfizer to to do some additional
  • 19:48preclinical studies and bring
  • 19:50it in the clinic
  • 19:51if it validates so,
  • 19:52we simply throw validation is pre
  • 19:54clinical validation is falling on
  • 19:56the shoulders of Julia fold even
  • 19:58offer Medical College of Fellows and
  • 20:00finish with scientists in my lab.
  • 20:02So before the coveted broke we had a
  • 20:04chance to look at 10 different cell
  • 20:06lines and you see that in the human
  • 20:09sort of achievable concentrations
  • 20:10that you can get in the human serum.
  • 20:13It says a pretty broad inhibitory effect.
  • 20:15And the army is not for coffee.
  • 20:18I could probably show you,
  • 20:20said the combinatorial screen results
  • 20:22from the high throughputs combinatorial
  • 20:24screen that we initially is doing in
  • 20:27our core facility at the West campus
  • 20:29and also collaborating in jacks
  • 20:31to test this drug in PDX models.
  • 20:33And we hope to bring this to the clinic.
  • 20:37Maybe the year 2.
  • 20:38So finally the last five minutes I
  • 20:41wanna spend on an idea that we kind
  • 20:43of stumbled upon off awhile back.
  • 20:45This is not our paper,
  • 20:47it's the people from nature of it shows
  • 20:49you the distribution of different sort
  • 20:51of mutations in large cities of Kansas.
  • 20:54So the striking thing about this
  • 20:56is that there are these set of
  • 20:58jeans that affected more than 65
  • 21:00cases out of close to 3000 Kansas.
  • 21:02And even in this sort of very modern
  • 21:05and high sort of accuracy study,
  • 21:07about 9% of Kansas said
  • 21:08no driver alterations.
  • 21:09English challenge you to think about anyway.
  • 21:11What you think you mean by a driver, Jean.
  • 21:14So is it a statistical construct
  • 21:16from any sort of statisticians
  • 21:17in computational biologist?
  • 21:19It is actually a statistical construct,
  • 21:20but of course many of you think about
  • 21:23this is gene that caused the cancer.
  • 21:25The way I think about this is
  • 21:28actually it's just a narrative tool.
  • 21:30To kill a good story.
  • 21:32So this is actually from the same paper
  • 21:34from but from the supplementary figures,
  • 21:37but it shows you the enormous amount
  • 21:39of model of Genomic abnormalities
  • 21:41that any particular cancer
  • 21:42has so retro transpositions,
  • 21:44a few dozen number of structural variants,
  • 21:47several dozen to several, several 1000.
  • 21:49So these are big chunks of the DNA
  • 21:51chromosomes missing very larger than
  • 21:53the thousands of in Dallas and 10s of
  • 21:56thousands of single included variance.
  • 21:58Incidentally,
  • 21:58you also see this actually in the CIS,
  • 22:01which is a premalignant lesion,
  • 22:03so these services, all the.
  • 22:05Well,
  • 22:05marks off of cancer,
  • 22:07except it's not really cancer,
  • 22:08but it has the same B 53 mutations
  • 22:12clarifications or not.
  • 22:13Just the game keeps you big pools,
  • 22:15better weather really.
  • 22:16The function of this these jeans
  • 22:18and then the individual jeans is.
  • 22:20So this is a people that many
  • 22:22years ago we did nearby Sunday.
  • 22:24She was that he was a medical student.
  • 22:26That year.
  • 22:27Now is a faculty at Sloan Kettering
  • 22:29and what I want to illustrate here
  • 22:31is that every single cancer which
  • 22:32is a column as really a different
  • 22:35combination of abnormalities.
  • 22:36So if you think about it that way,
  • 22:38maybe it's really the reason.
  • 22:39Why cancel the have different layers?
  • 22:41Because because of this combinatorial
  • 22:43difference that they have.
  • 22:44So if each of these contributes
  • 22:46something then their net effect is
  • 22:48really really heterogeneous behavior.
  • 22:50But maybe it's even more interesting.
  • 22:52Is this work with DVR? She was.
  • 22:55The students at that time at Yale
  • 22:57and now it's a medical student pad.
  • 23:00You sequence all the human kindness
  • 23:01ease in 90 two breast cancer,
  • 23:04only to see whether there are any.
  • 23:06Lowering additional kindness is that it?
  • 23:08I guess we didn't find any,
  • 23:10but we really observe though
  • 23:11is that there is a very large
  • 23:13number of high functional impact.
  • 23:15Variance in kindness is bigger germline.
  • 23:18I'm still think about for a second,
  • 23:20so you actually carry a bunch of germ line
  • 23:22so the mutations that inactivator overactive.
  • 23:25It kinda seems like PSC kinase or whatnot.
  • 23:27So what does it mean?
  • 23:30So please give us this idea
  • 23:32that maybe it's really.
  • 23:34He just focused too narrowly
  • 23:36on driver mutations,
  • 23:37which are only four of five in a cancel.
  • 23:40What actually would be probably also
  • 23:42helpful is to look at the context
  • 23:44in which this is happening and
  • 23:46the constant Israeli hundreds of
  • 23:48additional variants that come in from
  • 23:50the somatic or the germ line angle.
  • 23:53So he proposed this idea that
  • 23:55really functional German variance,
  • 23:57conkle, jeans and it's the totality
  • 23:59of the functional impact.
  • 24:00High functional impact German
  • 24:02variants in cancer Lady Jeans.
  • 24:04They could actually determine cancer risk.
  • 24:06So we know that there are
  • 24:08a few very high penetrance.
  • 24:10Cancer is chains like Bronco,
  • 24:12but it's really is the minority
  • 24:14women who carry this even very,
  • 24:16very strong family history.
  • 24:17So what's accounts for dismissing heredity?
  • 24:20You think it's the totality of
  • 24:22the defects that actually are.
  • 24:24Embedded in a whole lot of
  • 24:26individually non sort of.
  • 24:28Cannot translate that.
  • 24:30And then the next iteration of this,
  • 24:33that's really the combined effect
  • 24:35of the germline and somatic events
  • 24:37that really lead to the malignant
  • 24:39transformation rather than a few
  • 24:41individually dramatic effect.
  • 24:42And it's a project that talking
  • 24:45is pursuing in my lap towers
  • 24:47visiting post doc from from.
  • 24:49And that is so if it's really true,
  • 24:52then we would expect that woman who
  • 24:54developed cancer the younger age will
  • 24:56have a lot more sort of deleterious
  • 24:59germline events in cancer jeans then
  • 25:01people who develop cancer the later
  • 25:03age because it's ultimately the
  • 25:05combined effect of the acquired and
  • 25:07the inborn errors that lead to Kansas.
  • 25:10So if you are born with a
  • 25:12lot of errors to start with,
  • 25:14it gonna take a fewer or shorter time
  • 25:17to get to reach this critical level.
  • 25:20And long, behold,
  • 25:21that's exactly what he observed in a
  • 25:23bunch of large series like that ECA or
  • 25:25the UK biobank and now just published
  • 25:28this paper in Nature Communications.
  • 25:30I want to just point out to you because
  • 25:33time is short on this very last figure,
  • 25:36which is the the comparison,
  • 25:38the relationship between the
  • 25:39mutation than in the cancer versus
  • 25:41the variant, the German
  • 25:43variant burden by age groups.
  • 25:45So he he means younger than 30 and the
  • 25:49other advocating speak louder than 80.
  • 25:53The installation ship is actually remarkable,
  • 25:55so yo patience young who are who
  • 25:58have cancer at a younger age and
  • 26:00it's it across all the cancers that
  • 26:03letter TCG ahead or the UK biobank.
  • 26:05We also get consider the 30s, forties,
  • 26:0850s have a much higher germline
  • 26:10variant burden in cancer Lee jeans,
  • 26:12and this is like 5 or 6 only jeans then.
  • 26:16Then people who get cancer the older
  • 26:18age and on the other hand most
  • 26:21folks have a much higher mutation
  • 26:23somatic mutation so they can.
  • 26:25So so then that led to us
  • 26:27another idea that So what?
  • 26:29Actually the cancer jeans are in this thing?
  • 26:32That it's probably a lot broader
  • 26:34sort of repertoire then then
  • 26:35no one Canonical cancel jeans.
  • 26:37So you could think that this study?
  • 26:40The Dom Hussein,
  • 26:41who is a PhD student in the
  • 26:42computational biology program and
  • 26:44supervised by Mian Mar Gerstein too.
  • 26:46So how many jeans are actually connected,
  • 26:49one step or two step or three step
  • 26:51away in a pretty important interaction
  • 26:53network from from a cancer gene.
  • 26:55So if they are immediately next to it,
  • 26:58then they probably influence
  • 26:59the affective for cancer gene.
  • 27:01If they're two step removed,
  • 27:02they still probably influence over less,
  • 27:04so there actually a whole lot of jeans, but.
  • 27:07Half of all human jeans are
  • 27:09actually connected.
  • 27:10One or two steps away from
  • 27:12from cancer hub gene.
  • 27:13Most of these are not implicated in cancer,
  • 27:16and if you look at their sort of
  • 27:18functional importance in this gap
  • 27:20database and it turns out that the
  • 27:22further away you get from the cancer hub,
  • 27:25the less important they seem to be
  • 27:27in survival in the depth map data
  • 27:29which supports the idea that there
  • 27:31are lot more jeans involved in
  • 27:33cancer than what you think you see
  • 27:35the same when you look at weather.
  • 27:38There is an evolutionary pressure to to
  • 27:40preserve truncating mutations in these jeans,
  • 27:42and again the further away.
  • 27:43So the jeans which are one Step
  • 27:452 step three step away from a
  • 27:47concert Hall gene and less and less
  • 27:50evolutionary pressure on them into
  • 27:52four through 4 to exclude truncations.
  • 27:54And it was so carry actually
  • 27:56somatic mutations. So that's.
  • 28:02Personalized sort of Jim Langley scored.
  • 28:04That's sums up all these effects that
  • 28:06people are born with cancer chains,
  • 28:08and that's a project that
  • 28:10that we actually got to ask.
  • 28:12Or young investigator award
  • 28:13to pursue together with cow.
  • 28:15And we say this too
  • 28:16gruesome pictures out here.
  • 28:18Just remind you guys that
  • 28:19this is how airplanes crash.
  • 28:21They actually don't crash because
  • 28:23there is a statistically significant
  • 28:25losses of the wings or the engines
  • 28:26or not every single plane crashes
  • 28:28caused by a different combination
  • 28:30of individually nonlethal events.
  • 28:32So they fall into groups like human error,
  • 28:34which is almost always there,
  • 28:35but it's not the same human error.
  • 28:37It's a different kind of human error.
  • 28:38There's always some kind of a
  • 28:40mechanical or instrumental failure,
  • 28:41but it's never the same instrument.
  • 28:43So that's my final slide,
  • 28:45really studying the new micro environment.
  • 28:47Let us to some some useful ideas
  • 28:49about clinical trials are very
  • 28:51excited about exploring metabolic
  • 28:52adaptations for therapeutic targets,
  • 28:54and we submitted the DOD grant with this
  • 28:56with a group of other investigators,
  • 28:59and I think I really think that the
  • 29:01universe is functionally cancel.
  • 29:03Event chains is much larger than
  • 29:05we think it is interested in.
  • 29:07More stuff at the bottom of the
  • 29:09slide shows takes you through the
  • 29:12list of publications by our group.
  • 29:14So thank you, and this is my lab.
  • 29:18Each other.
  • 29:21Wow, thank you.
  • 29:22That was a an impressive array
  • 29:24of work on so many fronts.
  • 29:27And congratulations on all of it.
  • 29:29I know where we're a little late on time,
  • 29:32so let me just offer up one question.
  • 29:35You know? I think you oppose.
  • 29:37Obviously a very good case that
  • 29:39it's a combination of germline
  • 29:41asmatic events and I'm curious,
  • 29:43do you think breast is is different?
  • 29:46Breast cancer is different than other
  • 29:48solid to malignancy's because obviously
  • 29:50germline and semantic events are.
  • 29:52Install cancers,
  • 29:52but you think breast is
  • 29:54somehow different that respect.
  • 29:55Yes, it's different. It's a matter of fact,
  • 29:58so you can group really Kansas even
  • 30:00in this paper that that I refer to
  • 30:03be looked at different cancer types,
  • 30:05and this Association starts to fall apart
  • 30:07in Kansas that actually have a very high
  • 30:09environments or customer on exposure, right?
  • 30:11Because that in this sort of
  • 30:13message of this new relationship.
  • 30:15So this relationship is less strong
  • 30:17in lung cancer, bladder cancer,
  • 30:19and some other cancers.
  • 30:20So the real picture of course, is nuance.
  • 30:23It's much more nuanced.
  • 30:24And the same way.
  • 30:25So the jeans we chat important so the
  • 30:28cancer gene is probably also vary from
  • 30:31some tissue types of tissue type.
  • 30:33So these are the refinements
  • 30:34that we are actually working on.
  • 30:36Is just that I wanted to give you
  • 30:38a repertoire of things that we do,
  • 30:40but that's exactly what we actually
  • 30:42addressing in this project right now.
  • 30:44Thank you and I know just for time
  • 30:46will will move on, but obviously
  • 30:48folks can certainly email allow us to.